[00:00:06] OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. WELCOME TO THE FEBRUARY 23RD, 2026 MEETING OF THE JEFFERSON COUNTY BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENT. THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENT IS A FIVE MEMBER BOARD THAT REQUIRES THREE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES TO APPROVE A REQUEST FOR VARIANCE OR OTHER APPEAL FOR ANYONE ADDRESSING THE BOARD TODAY, PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN TELL US WHAT YOUR HARDSHIP IS, OR WHAT YOUR OBJECTION TO THIS REQUEST MAY BE. YOU WILL BE GIVEN OUR DECISION TODAY VERBALLY, AND YOU WILL RECEIVE OUR DECISION IN WRITING WITHIN TEN DAYS. ZONING APPROVALS CAN BE ISSUED IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE HEARING IN OUR OFFICE AT ROOM B 200. HOWEVER, YOU WILL FIRST BE REQUIRED TO OBTAIN A PERMIT FROM THE JEFFERSON COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. IF YOUR APPLICATION INVOLVES CONNECTION TO A SEPTIC TANK OR THE JEFFERSON COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT. IF YOUR APPLICATION INVOLVES CONNECTION TO A SANITARY SEWER. ANYONE DISAGREEING WITH THE BOARD'S DECISION TODAY HAS 15 DAYS IN WHICH TO FILE AN APPEAL IN CIRCUIT COURT. ALSO, WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU SILENCE ANY ELECTRONIC DEVICES DURING THIS HEARING. FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CASE A 26 0001 APPLICANT DAVID BRANDT, WOULD STAFF PLEASE PRESENT THE CASE? YES, MA'AM. THIS IS CASE A 26 001. THE. IT'S A SUMMARY OF THE REQUEST. THE FOLLOWING REFERENCES FOR THE TERMS OF THE ZONING RESOLUTION IS TO ALLOW THE ERECTION OF A PILOT SIGN, NOT ADJACENT TO AN INTERSTATE HIGHWAY OR WITHIN 600FT OF AN INTERSTATE INTERCHANGE. ALSO, TO ALLOW A PILOT SIGN TO BE LOCATED 140FT OF PROTECTED RESIDENTIAL AREA IN LIEU OF THE 300 REQUIRED 300FT EXISTING ZONE IS C-1. COMMERCIAL. THE SITE CONTAINS. SITE CONTAINS. A COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE THAT WAS FORMERLY HOUSED A RESTAURANT, AND ALSO A GAMBLING ESTABLISHMENT. IT'S 1.62 ACRES. THE PROPERTY LIES ALONG FOREST DALE BOULEVARD, WHICH IS CHARACTERIZED BY COMMERCIAL ZONING ALONG THE HIGHWAY AND RESIDENTIAL ZONE, ALONG SUBURBAN STREET NETWORK THAT CONNECTS TO THE HIGHWAY. HOWEVER, DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ARE LARGE, WOODED, VACANT TRACTS THAT RETAIN R-1 SINGLE FAMILY ZONING. THE COMMERCIAL ZONING ON THE PROPERTY WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1955. ACCORDING TO THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION RECORDS, THE CURRENT STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY WAS BUILT IN 1918. THIS PROPERTY AGAIN CONSISTS OF A COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE AND NON CONFORMING AND NON-CONFORMING POLE SIGN. THE POLE SIGN BECOME NON-CONFORMING WHEN THE COUNTY COMMISSION ADOPTED A REVISION OF THE SIGN REGULATIONS IN 2015 AND AGAIN IN 2017, IN ORDER TO ENCOURAGE LOW PROFILE SIGNAGE IN ORDER TO ENHANCE THE ESTHETIC APPEAL OF COMMERCIAL AREAS, PARTICULARLY THOSE IN THE PROXIMITY OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. PRIOR TO THE CURRENT SIGN REGULARIZATION, THE COUNTY ALLOWED EACH BUSINESS TO SIGNS WITH NO SIZE RESTRICTION. WHEN THE NONCONFORMING SIGN IS REMOVED FROM THE PROPERTY, THE ZONING RESOLUTION WOULD ONLY ALLOW A MONUMENTAL SIGN, THE SIZE OF WHICH IS RESTRICTED TO 60FT■S PR SIGN FACE AND NOT TO EXCEED SIX FEET IN HEIGHT. THE ZONING RESOLUTION DOES NOT ALLOW FOR SIGNS, BUT ONLY WITH ONLY WITHIN 600FT OF AN INTERSTATE OR INTERSTATE INTERCHANGE. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS MILES FROM INTERSTATE OR INTERCHANGE. AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REPLACE THE NONCONFORMING POLE SIGN WITH A NEW POLL SIGN 25FT IN HEIGHT AND 152FT■!S IN SIGN FACE. THERS A PRECEDENCE OF DENIALS. I THINK WE'VE DENIED THREE SIGNS ALONG THAT CORRIDOR. SHOULD THE BOARD BE INCLINED TO GRANT THIS REQUEST, IT WILL REVERSE THE PRECEDENT THAT HAS BEEN UPHELD FOR SIMILAR BUSINESSES WITHIN A MILE OF THIS LOCATION. THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL FOR CASE A 26 001. THANK YOU SIR. OKAY, DOES ANY MEMBER [00:05:02] OF THE BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT REGARDING THIS CASE? NO. OKAY. AND AT THIS TIME, WE'D LIKE TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THIS ITEM. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OR IN SUPPORT TO THIS REQUEST? PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. I'M DAVID BRANDT WITH FREIGHT SERVICES 133 WEST PARK DRIVE, BIRMINGHAM. 35211. I'M HERE TO REPRESENT MY CLIENT, ERIC GUSTER, IN THE MATTER OF THIS, OF THIS SIGN. THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION AND THE SYNOPSIS. SO THE SIGN. YES. WE ARE PROPOSING TO REPLACE WHAT IS CURRENTLY EXISTING WITH WITH A NEW CONTEMPORARY SIGN THAT THAT EXISTING SIGN IS 40 FOOT TALL. IT IS TO THE TUNE OF 176, BETWEEN 170 AND 180FT■S. THE THE THE DIAMOND SHAPED PIECE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PULLED UP. WE ARE PROPOSING OUR SIGN IS ACTUALLY IT. SINCE THIS ORIGINAL SUBMITTAL. THIS IS ACTUALLY. YEAH, 19 19 FOOT WIDE BY EIGHT FOOT. SO IT'S 152. IT'S AN 152 SQUARE FOOT SIGN AT 25FT TALL. SO THIS SIGN IS SMALLER AND LOWER TO THE GROUND THAN WHAT IS THAN WHAT IS TYPICALLY THERE. THE NATURE OF THE SIGN IS, IS SUCH THAT IT IT IT'S MUCH MORE DECIPHERABLE AND READABLE AT THAT HEIGHT AND AT THAT SIZE. AND AS A FUNCTION OF TRAVEL SPEED ON FORESTDALE BOULEVARD, LOW TO THE GROUND, MONUMENT SIGN WAS NOT SUFFICIENT IN SIZE AT 60FT■S FOR PROPER READABILITY. AS YOU'RE AS YOU'RE TRAVELING ALONG FORESTDALE BOULEVARD. AND SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS SOMETHING THAT IS, YOU KNOW, BIGGER THAN WHAT IS ALLOWED, BUT SMALLER THAN WHAT WAS THERE. THE DESIGN IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS SIGN IS VERY SIMPLISTIC, AND IT'S ACTUALLY SIMILAR TO, OR I SHOULD SAY IDENTICAL TO A NUMBER OF SIGNS THAT MY CLIENT HAS AND NUMEROUS OTHER THROUGHO. CENTERPOINT IN PARTICULAR. HE HAS TWO SIGNS THAT ARE EXACTLY OF THIS CONSTRUCTION AS TO THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE SIGN. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE'RE NOT WE DON'T WANT TO PUT VIDEO UP. WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE ADVERTISEMENT OF THE TENANTS ON THE BILL FOR THAT PROPERTY, WHOEVER THEY END UP, WHOEVER THEY MAY BE. AND THEN, OF COURSE, MR. GUSTER'S LAW FIRM AS WELL WOULD BE ON THAT SIGN. WE WOULD ABIDE BY ALL RULES WITH REGARDS TO BRIGHTNESS, FREQUENCY OF CHANGE AND ANY OTHER REGULATIONS THAT MAY THAT MAY BE STIPULATED IN SIGNS OF THIS, OF THIS TYPE IN THE JEFFERSON COUNTY SIGN CODE, THIS IS ASSIGNED TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY ENHANCE THE THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY AND TO ALSO ENHANCE THE ESTHETIC OF THE AREA. YOU KNOW, MR. GUSTER IS REINVESTING IN THIS AREA. HE HAS PLANS TO TO TO, YOU KNOW, RENOVATE THE BUILDING ITSELF AS WELL AND, AND BRING MORE BUSINESS INTO, YOU KNOW, INTO THE AREA. AND THIS SIGN WILL CERTAINLY HELP BOLSTER THAT AND AND BE AN INCENTIVE TO TO NEW TENANTS. AND SO AND I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. YEAH. AND SO YEAH WITH THAT I IF ALLOWABLE I'D LIKE TO PASS IT OVER TO, TO MR. GUSTER HERE WHO HAS A FEW THINGS HE'D LIKE TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION. OKAY. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR ALL FOR BEING HERE. MY NAME IS ERIC GUSTER. I'M A LAWYER AND A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER. FIRST OFF, THE GAMBLING AND BINGO SPOT. I HAVE NOT BOUGHT THIS BUILDING YET. I DID NOT BRING THE GAMBLING AND BINGO SPOT THAT WAS THERE BEFORE. QUITE FRANKLY, ON OUR REDEVELOPMENTS, WE'RE VERY CHOOSY WITH OUR TENANTS. I, WE ARE VERY, VERY PICKY ABOUT THE TENANTS THAT WE GET. AND WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS REDEVELOP IT. WE MAY KEEP THE CURRENT BUILDING, BUT I'M ALSO CONSIDERING DOING A SMALL RETAIL DEVELOPMENT LIKE I DID IN FIVE POINTS WEST. AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES ABOUT FOREST DALE BOULEVARD IS A FREEWAY. AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF SHUT DOWN BUSINESSES IS PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THEY'RE THERE, AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF GOOD QUALITY SIGNAGE TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THIS BUSINESS IS HERE, LET'S DO BUSINESS AT THAT, THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES THAT A LOT OF THESE BUSINESSES [00:10:04] FACE IS LACK OF SIGNAGE. AND THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO DO THIS PARTICULAR SIGN, THIS BUILDING. WE ARE UNDER CONTRACT TO CLOSE ON IT IN A FEW WEEKS. AND AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOU ALL HEARING THIS, HEARING THIS TODAY. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, PLEASE, PLEASE ASK. YEAH. AND DID WE GET THE ADDRESS FOR MR. GUSTER? IF YOU COULD PLEASE GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS. HOME ADDRESS? 7315 KINGS MOUNTAIN CIRCLE. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ARE YOU AWARE OF THE 2015 SIGN ORDINANCE? I AM I AM AWARE OF THE 20. WHY WOULD WE? AND WE'VE DENIED OTHERS WHO MADE A SIMILAR REQUEST. SO WHY WOULD WE APPROVE YOURS? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE WELL WHICH THE PRESIDENT'S? THE PRESIDENT'S? WHAT IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED WITH SIGNAGE IN JEFFERSON COUNTY, QUITE FRANKLY, IS LAMAR HAS CREATED A MONOPOLY ON ON SIGNAGE. LAMAR OUTDOOR. AND WE ARE WE DESIGNED THIS TO BUILD IT WITHIN THE CONFORMITY OF WHAT'S ALREADY THERE. BECAUSE LAMAR IS A NATIONAL MULTINATIONAL. WELL, NOT IT'S A NATIONAL COMPANY THAT BUYS UP ALL THE SIGNAGE. AND OTHER BUSINESSES LIKE MYSELF DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT UP DECENT SIGNAGE. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST OBSTACLES THAT WE'VE HAD WITH TRYING TO GET SIGNAGE LIKE THIS IN UNINCORPORATED JEFFERSON COUNTY. THEY OWN ALL OF THE I FORGOT THE CORRECT TERMINOLOGY FOR IT. THEY OWN ALL THE LITTLE SLIP. THEY BOUGHT THEM FROM DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS WHERE THEY COULD PUT UP. IF I HAD ONE OF THOSE, I COULD PUT ONE OF THESE UP WITHOUT COMING HERE. BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE GOING TO REDEVELOP THIS PROPERTY WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE A SINGLE TENANT OR MULTI TENANT AND BRING BUSINESSES TO THIS PROPERTY. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. AND MA'AM DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION. COMMISSIONER HERE. OH OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU OKAY. THANK YOU OKAY. IF THERE AREN'T ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS ASK ONE QUESTION. YES, SIR. THE EXISTING SIGN IS THERE. YES, SIR. DO YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEM USING IT AND JUST READ DOING THE SIGNAGE OUTSIDE OF IT? WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T. BUT WE TRIED. WE TRIED THAT FIRST. WE CAN'T REUSE THE SIGNAGE THAT IS THERE BECAUSE IT'S A. DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE? IT'S A YEAH. IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF SIDEWAYS SQUARE SIGN. IT'S A DIAMOND THAT'S THERE NOW. RIGHT. WE CAN'T USE THAT. SO WE WE DID THE DIMENSIONS OF THAT SIGN AND THE ONE ON THE BUILDING PUT IT TOGETHER TO. AND OURS IS A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN BOTH OF THOSE PUT TOGETHER. THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S THE SAME SIZE OF SIGNAGE THAT WE WOULD HAVE ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY MORE SIGNAGE, BUT IT'S THAT PLUS THE ONE ON THE BUILDING, THAT UGLY SIGN RIGHT THERE, PLUS THE ONE ON THE BUILDING THAT WE'RE JUST ASKING TO REDO. SO YOU'RE AN ATTORNEY. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT PRECEDENT HAS ALREADY BEEN SET FOR THREE CASES HAVE BEEN DENIED, WHICH YOU HEARD STAFF REFER TO. YES, MA'AM. BUT ALSO WHEN YOU HAVE PRECEDENTS, EVERY EVERY ASK IS DIFFERENT AS WELL. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE THE GAS STATION NEXT DOOR THAT HAS ELECTRONIC SIGNAGE. YOU HAVE THERE ARE OTHER CASES THAT I DON'T KNOW THEIR PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR SOMETHING LARGER IN OURS. OFTENTIMES PEOPLE SAY, I HAVE A TEN BY TEN, I WANT A 20 BY 20. WE'RE ASKING FOR LESS THAN WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY. SO I WOULD I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE PARTICULAR ASKS WERE, BUT I ANTICIPATE THE OURS IS PROBABLY LIKELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY ASKED BEFORE. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY, IF I MAY, JUST ANOTHER POINT OF ORDER HERE. ALSO, JUST A COUPLE OTHER POINTS TO TO TO CONSIDER. HERE IS THE NUMBER ONE. THIS SIGN WILL BE NO CLOSER TO THE STREET THAN THE EXISTING SIGN OKAY. SO WE'RE WE'RE PUTTING IN THE SAME EXACT SPOT. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SHIFTED LEFT OR RIGHT. IT'LL BE IT'LL BE JUST AS IT'S HARD TO TELL IN THAT PHOTOGRAPH, BUT IT WILL BE THE SAME DISTANCE FROM THE ROAD AS THE EXISTING SIGN, SIMILAR TO WHAT MISTER PARKER WAS ASKING ABOUT USING SAME SIGN. WE'RE PUTTING IT IN THE [00:15:02] SAME SPOT AS THIS ONE, RIGHT? RIGHT. AND YES, TO TO MR. GUSTER'S POINT, THE THAT THAT IS THE EXACTLY WHAT WE FIRST DID IS TRY AND LOOK AT THE EXISTING SIGN. WHAT CAN WE DO? ELECTRONIC MESSAGE BOARDS DO NOT LEND THEMSELVES TO THAT PARTICULAR SHAPE. AND THERE ISN'T A PRODUCT THAT THAT WOULD WORK IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE. AND SO AND WE WERE TOLD WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT DIAMOND DOWN. THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT. WE COULD NOT REUSE THAT CABINET EVEN. YEAH. AND OF COURSE, WHAT'S THE HEIGHT OF YOUR SIGN AGAIN. 25FT OKAY. AND THE EXISTING SIGN IS 40FT. SO WE ARE GOING WITH SOMETHING THAT IS SMALLER AND THAT ALSO IS SHORTER. NOW PART OF THE RULE JEFFERSON COUNTY SIGN CODE SAYS THAT IF YOU DO NOT WANT IF IF YOU WANT TO REQUEST A FREESTANDING SIGN THAT IS TALLER THAN SIX FOOT TALL AND 60FT■S, WHICH IS THE CURRENT SIGNAGE ALLOWANCE, THEN YOU COULD POSSIBLY ASK FOR A SIGN THAT IS NO BIGGER THAN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING FACADE OF OF THAT'S ON THAT PROPERTY. THAT BUILDING FACADE COMES IN AT ROUGHLY 156, BETWEEN 156 AND 157FT■S AND CHANGE. THIS SIGN IS 152FT■!S. O WE'RE WITHIN THOSE CONFINES AS WELL. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THAT GUARANTEES APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE, BUT THAT IS THE CONDITION FOR WHICH WE'RE ALLOWED TO ASK FOR A VARIANCE. SO WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO COME BACK WITH THINGS THAT ARE UNDERNEATH WHAT'S EXISTING AND WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE ALLOWED. IF YOU WERE TO CONSIDER THE PYLON SIGN I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE MONUMENT STYLE SIGN, THAT'S GREAT FOR SLOW TRAFFIC, SLOW MOVING TRAFFIC. IT'S GREAT FOR, YOU KNOW, 30, MAYBE EVEN 40 MILE AN HOUR SPEEDS, CLOSE PROXIMITY, YOU KNOW, COLLECTOR STREETS, SOMETHING RIGHT BEFORE A SUBDIVISION. THIS IS A HIGH TRAVEL. THIS IS A HIGH SPEED AREA. AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GO NECESSARILY I THINK 40 FOOT WAS TOO TALL FOR THAT. 25FT IS A SWEET SPOT. IT'S RIGHT IN THE LINE OF SIGHT FOR DRIVERS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE THIS MAKE THIS EASY TO READ AND WHICH ULTIMATELY ENHANCES THE SAFETY FEATURE OF THE SIGN. WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE IS A SIGN THAT'S TOO SMALL, HARD TO READ. AND AS A RESULT, SOMEONE COULD, YOU KNOW, GET IN SOME SORT OF VEHICULAR MISHAP. SO WE'RE TRYING TO WE DESIGNED THIS AS A FUNCTION NOT OF NOT JUST OF, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, BUT IT WAS THOUGHT OUT FROM A, FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT AND A, AND A READABILITY STANDPOINT, A PROPER READABILITY STANDPOINT. AND DO I UNDERSTAND ON THE PYLON SIGN YOU WANT IT TO BE LOCATED 140FT FROM A PROTECTED RESIDENTIAL AREA AREA IN LIEU OF THE REQUIRED 300FT? YES, MA'AM. AND THAT'S JUST THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHERE THE SIGN IS. I MEAN, THE SIGN, THAT EXISTING SIGN IS THAT DISTANCE AS WELL. AND OF COURSE, BY REPLACING IT, WE WOULD BE WITHIN THAT THAT I THINK THERE'S A WOODED AREA ACROSS THE STREET THAT'S ZONED RESIDENTIAL. THAT'S JUST WOODS. SO BUT THIS IS STILL FOREST BOULEVARD, WHICH IS A HIGH TRAFFIC STREET. IT'S A HIGH TRAFFIC, PRETTY MUCH. HIGHWAY FOUR BOULEVARD IS. BUT I THINK THE THE PROPERTY RIGHT. THIS SINGLE. RIGHT. CORRECT. DO YOU HAVE A POINTER. OH GOOD. OH MAN. THIS IS FANCY. YEAH. LIKE THIS IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL. THIS IS FOREST BOULEVARD. THAT'S RESIDENTIAL. AND THAT'S BEEN WOODS SINCE GOD MADE IT. SO YOU HAVE WHAT'S ZONED RESIDENTIAL, BUT I WOULD SUSPECT HIGHLY LIKE UNLIKELY TO BE A HOUSE TO BE BUILT RIGHT THERE. THIS IS WHERE OUR PROPERTY IS. THE PROPERTY IS RIGHT HERE. ALL THIS COMMERCIAL, ALL THESE ARE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. THAT'S THE GAS STATION NEXT DOOR TO US. THE CHICKEN SPOT. WOODS. WOODS. I THINK THAT'S THE BEGINNING OF THE THE MALL THEY'RE REDOING. IT'S ZONED RESIDENTIAL, BUT NOT HOUSES. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? DID Y'ALL HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. IF THERE AREN'T ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS, MAY I HAVE A MOTION FROM THE BOARD? MADAM CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY CASE A-260001. I SECOND THE MOTION. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY AGAINST? OKAY. WELL, YOUR VARIANCE HAS BEEN DENIED [00:20:09] AT THIS TIME. BUT LIKE I SAID, YOU HAVE 15 DAYS THAT YOU CAN APPEAL IT IN CIRCUIT COURT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY. HAVE ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE CASE? MATERIALS AND MINUTES FROM THE NOVEMBER 17TH, 2025 HEARING THAT WERE SENT TO US ELECTRONICALLY? YES, YES. OKAY. MAY I HAVE A MOTION FROM THE BOARD REGARDING THE MINUTES FROM THE NOVEMBER 17TH, 2025 HEARING? MADAM CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE READING OF THE OCTOBER 27TH, 2020 FIVE MINUTES AND APPROVE AS WRITTEN. OKAY, I SECOND THE MOTION. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, THEN THE MINUTES STAND AS APPROVED. THANK YOU. OH, THE. MADAM CHAIR, IT'S THE ELECTION OF THE OFFICERS VERSUS I MAKE A MOTION TO RETAIN THE CURRENT OFFICERS. FRAN ALDRIDGE AS CHAIR, ANDRE PARKER AS SECRETARY, AND BRENDA LEWIS AS VICE CHAIR. I SECOND THE MOTION. AMEN. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. TOO BAD WE WIN, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ONE OF THE PEOPLE HERE. BUT WE HAVE A WARRANT TO VOTE ON. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.