Mar 17, 2026 Pre-Commission Work Session

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THIS WILL WORK. IT SHOULD BE THE SAME AGENDA. YEAH. WE'RE GOOD. IT SHOULD BE. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. GOOD MORNING. HAPPY SAINT PATRICK'S DAY. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAPPY BIRTHDAY. I'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR A LONG TIME NOW.

I'VE BEEN ON THAT SAME DAY. ONE THING THAT YOU CAN'T SAY I DON'T HAVE IS, IS A PARTY EVERY BIRTHDAY. BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS SAINT PATRICK'S DAY AND IT'S I FEEL BLESSED. I'M BLESSED TO BE HERE AND HAVE MY RENEWED HEALTH AND THE ABILITY TO DO THE THINGS THAT, THAT WE DO HERE TO GIVE BACK TO THE CITIZENS OF JEFFERSON COUNTY AND WHERE I AM. I AM TRULY BLESSED. AND DANIELLE, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN A WORD OF PRAYER? SURE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS DAY.

FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US. FATHER, WE PRAY RIGHT NOW FOR THE POLICIES THAT ARE SET BY OUR COMMISSIONERS, LORD, THAT THEY WOULD WORK IN UNITY UNDER YOUR PERFECT WILL. FATHER GOD, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU, LORD. DURING THIS SEASON AS WE COME INTO SPRING AND WE JUST SEE ALL THE NEW LIFE. LORD, THANK YOU FOR THE LIFE THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US. THANK YOU FOR THE NEW LIFE THAT YOU GIVE US THROUGH THE DEATH OF YOUR SON AND HIS RESURRECTION. JESUS, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD JUST GIVE US WISDOM AS OUR COMMISSIONERS DO THEIR JOBS TODAY. LORD, I THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR OUR COUNTY. THANK YOU FOR OUR STATE. THANK YOU FOR THE UNITED STATES. I LOVE YOU, LORD, AND I JUST PRAISE YOU. AMEN. AMEN, AMEN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND SINCE THAT WAS A NICE PRAYER, YOU DON'T GET PINCHED FOR HAVING A LITTLE PAPER. IT'S SO GREAT. THANK. COMMISSIONER BOLAND WANTED TO EXERCISE HIS SUPREME COURT PRIVILEGES AGAIN. OH. HE WORE GREEN. YEAH. OH, THERE'S ANOTHER NO GREEN. SO DO WE NEED. YEP. OH, YOU'LL BE RIGHT UP THERE. WE HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT

[INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY & ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE]

YES. PROCEED, PLEASE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE COUNTY HERE AND REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE ENTITY INVOLVED, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JEFF AT THIS POINT. JEFF. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. TODAY WE'VE GOT A REQUEST FOR AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE RELATED TO AN EXPANSION OF BRASFIELD AND GLORY'S CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS CAMPUS. BRASFIELD AND GORRIE IS LOOKING AT INVESTING $64.5 MILLION INTO THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW OFFICE TOWER IN DOWNTOWN. THIS WOULD BE IN DISTRICT TWO. WITH THAT PROJECT WOULD COME 80 NEW JOBS TO THE COUNTY AT AN AVERAGE WAGE OF $39.51. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROJECT SUMMARY THAT I PROVIDED YOU, YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THE PROJECT, INCLUDING THE ESTIMATED RATE OF RETURN ON THE COUNTY'S ASSISTANCE. AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS OUR TYPICAL JOBS GRANT. WITH US TODAY IS A COUPLE OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM BRASFIELD AND GORRIE. AND AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ASK NANCY. CAREY TO COME UP AND SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HER PLANS. NANCY HAS NO GREEN. THANK YOU. NO GREEN, NO. GREEN. NO. SO BUT THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME THIS MORNING. OH, NO. BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING US THIS MORNING AND GIVING US THE TIME ON YOUR AGENDA TO HEAR ABOUT OUR UPCOMING EXPANSION. WE WANT TO THANK YOU ALSO FOR YOUR PAST SUPPORT ON OUR PAST PROJECTS.

YOU KNOW, MOST RECENTLY WE FINISHED THE BG TWO X TOWER, WHICH MANY OF YOU, MANY OF YOU WERE ABLE TO COME AND CELEBRATE WITH US, THE OPENING OF THAT BUILDING NEXT LAST SPRING. YOU KNOW, BRASFIELD AND HIS PURPOSE IS TO BUILD EXCEPTIONAL PEOPLE AND GREAT PROJECTS AND STRONG COMMUNITIES. AND THIS NEW PROJECT THAT WE'LL SHARE WITH YOU TODAY IS A IS A REFLECTION OF THAT COMMITMENT TO CONTINUE STRENGTHENING OUR COMMUNITIES AND BUILDING EXCEPTIONAL PEOPLE.

WE ARE GROWING SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. AND TODAY COMPANY WIDE, WE HAVE OVER 4400 EMPLOYEES WITH A LITTLE OVER 1600 OF THOSE BEING IN ALABAMA. AND SO THIS PROJECT, YOU KNOW, AS JEFF MENTIONED, WILL SUPPORT HIGH PAYING PROFESSIONALS AND FIELD PERSONNEL AT THE COMPANY. AND IT'S REALLY A CONTINUED INVESTMENT IN OUR WORKFORCE AND

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SO ONCE WE GET THIS FACILITY COMPLETE. SO ON THE FIRST FLOOR, WE'LL HAVE A LARGE BANQUET ROOM, ABOUT 300 SEATS. YOU CAN HAVE A PLATED DINNER OR YOU CAN HAVE A JUST A BIG TRAINING SESSION OR A CONFERENCE. IT'LL ALSO HAVE AN AUDITORIUM STYLE SEATING ROOM. IT'LL SEAT ABOUT 100 IN IT, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TWO OTHER MEETING ROOMS THAT CAN BE BROKEN DOWN INTO SMALLER ROOMS. SO OVERALL, THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS GOING TO BE 80,000FT■!S. AND WE'LL HAVE THE FIRST FLOOR EVENT CENTER. THEN THE OTHER UPPER THREE FLOORS WILL BE OFFICE SPACE. THERE'S A COUPLE OF RENDERINGS IN THIS PAMPHLET. THIS IS KIND OF LOOKING BACK TO THE EAST WHERE THE NEW BUILDING WILL BE, AND THEN THIS IS KIND OF A BETTER VIEW OF WHAT THE NEW BUILDING WILL LOOK LIKE. YOU KNOW, IT'LL MATCH THE EXTERIOR OF OUR OTHER TWO BUILDINGS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW ON SEVENTH AVENUE. LET'S SEE, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT AND REALLY WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WE NEED TO GO OVER? CAN I SIR, I MOVED IT, I SECOND NANCY, WHERE'S YOUR OFFICE BEFORE WE DO, CAN YOU SIT DOWN? CAN I ASK YOU A COUPLE QUESTIONS? WHERE'S YOUR OFFICE GOING TO BE? IN THERE. HOW LONG? OH, I'M IN THE OLD BUILDING. OKAY. HOW LONG? YEAH, MAYBE. YOU TWO. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WITH THIS? THIS COMPANY? 35, 35 YEARS. AND YOU THERE FOR SEVEN YEARS. GOOD. AND WERE THERE OTHER JURISDICTIONS OUT OF STATE, OTHER PLACES THAT WANTED THIS ENTITY RATHER THAN JEFFERSON COUNTY? YES. WE ARE. WE. OUR HIGHEST REVENUE GROWTH IS IN GEORGIA IN OUR ATLANTA OFFICE.

AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER AREA THAT WE COULD WE COULD EXPAND THERE. SO YOU ALL HAD ALTERNATIVE PLACES THAT YOU COULD GO TO. WE DID YOU DO BUSINESS? BIG BUSINESS CONSTRUCTION OUT OF STATE? YES. AND YOUR COMPANY AND YOU CHOSE JEFFERSON COUNTY. YEAH. WE'RE COMMITTED TO KEEPING OUR HEADQUARTERS HERE IN JEFFERSON COUNTY AND IN BIRMINGHAM. WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR 62 YEARS AND WANT TO STAY HERE. WELL, I'M SO PROUD OF YOU. I'VE LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE. I LOVE IT HERE. I'VE HAD A LOT OF FRIENDS WHO BREASTFEEDING ALREADY GOING BACK OVER THE DECADES, AND I'M PROUD OF EVERY ENTITY THAT COMES BEFORE THIS COMMISSION WITH THINGS LIKE YOU'RE DOING. BUT I'M MOST HAPPY THAT RICE FIELD WILL BE HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. CAN I ADD SOMETHING TO THAT? YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN COMMITTED TO KEEP THEIR CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS FUNCTIONS HERE. BUT AS THEY STATED, A LOT OF THEIR WORK OCCURS IN OTHER STATES AND THEY HAVE HAD PRESSURE OVER THE YEARS TO AT CERTAIN FUNCTIONS IN THOSE OTHER STATES. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY'VE COMMITTED TO DO IS TO RETAIN NOT JUST THE

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ALL THE BEST FOR A GREAT FUTURE FOR YOU ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GREAT JOB. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LET THAT LAWYER TALK, ARE YOU? I'M SORRY. THANK YOU FOR GIVING US A LITTLE LEEWAY ABOUT JUST ME. YES. NO, NO, YOU. YES. WELL, I MOVED IT AND JO SECONDED IT.

AND YOU ALL FOR THE VOTE. I, I. ALL RIGHT. SHEILA, SAY I. SEND HER BACK. SHE DOESN'T HAVE ANY GREEN. A PRESS CONFERENCE TODAY. SORRY, Y'ALL ALL RIGHT? YOU WANT TO DO NUMBER TWO? FINISH YOURS. I MOVE, I MOVE, YEAH. ALL RIGHT, WE GOT A MOTION. SECOND FAVOR. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. NUMBER TWO. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? THANK YOU FOR THAT BUSINESS RESOURCE. SEND IT TO YOU. GOT DISTRICT FIVE OTHER BUSINESS? NO, THAT WAS NUMBER TWO THAT WE JUST DID. RIGHT. APPRECIATE. THAT'S THE ONE WE JUST DID. WHICH KIND OF TIES RIGHT INTO HAVING BREASTFEEDING, GOING NOT FAR FROM THEM. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I MOVED THAT, GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. ALL OPPOSED BY MOTION. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MR. PRESIDENT, COMMISSIONER SCALES, WE'LL JUST

[PUBLIC WORKS, COMMUNITY SERVICES & INTER - GOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS COMMITTEE]

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS IT RELATES TO THOSE ITEMS UNDER NUMBER THREE. ON THESE SOS. ARE WE CONTINUING TO WHITTLE THOSE DOWN? YEAH, WE WERE DOWN LAST TIME IN LAST YEAR. WE HAD A COUPLE COME IN. WE WERE EVEN. YEAH, WE'RE KEEPING WE'RE CONTINUING WITH WETLANDS. GOT HIT PRETTY HARD BY THE RAIN. YEAH. WAS THAT FOR YOU? HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING ONE THROUGH FOUR, SIR. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING I. UNDER HUMAN RESOURCES WE HAVE A TOTAL OF THREE ITEMS. ONE I UNDERSTAND IS GOING TO BE PULLED. IS THAT CORRECT? ITEM NUMBER THREE, I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEM THREE FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION SO WE CAN I CAN UNDERSTAND THE CONTRACT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. SURE. SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO OFFER A MOTION WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM NUMBER THREE, I MOVE ONE AND TWO AND ASK THAT WE HOLD THREE FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION.

ALRIGHT. CAN I GET A SECOND ON THAT SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING I, I. ALL RIGHT. AND UNDER PERSONNEL BOARD WE HAVE A TOTAL OF THREE ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS AS IT RELATES TO PERSONNEL BOARD ITEMS. THIS IS ACKNOWLEDGMENTS ONLY RIGHT? CORRECT. I MOVE ONE THROUGH THREE. ALL RIGHT. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. AYE. WE HAVE A TOTAL OF THREE ITEMS UNDER OTHER BUSINESS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO ANY OF THESE ITEMS? I MOVE YOUR COMMUNITY GRANTS ONE THROUGH THREE. ALL RIGHT. CAN I GET A SECOND? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING I. ALL RIGHT.

[COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT & HEALTH SERVICES COMMITTEE]

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NUMBER THREE IS THE SENIOR WARRIORS SENIOR CENTER AGREEMENT FOR $20,000 FOR OPERATIONS. NUMBER FOUR IS AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO THE PALMDALE STORM SHELTER TO EXTEND THAT FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE FISCAL YEAR. NUMBER FIVE IS A. RELEASE FOR MARCY KENNEDY.

SHE'S PAID IN FULL MARCH. CAN I GET A MOTION? I'LL MOVE. ONE, TWO. THREE. FOUR SIX. I GET A SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. FIRST AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I FAMILY COURT WAS GET DOWN TO FAMILY COURT. I'LL MOVE ALL THREE. THANKS. OKAY. CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND. IT'S BEEN FIRST AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I, I MAY I HAVE COMMUNITY GRANTS FOR DISTRICT TWO, SOME SALARY ADJUSTMENTS AND A PAVING GRANT. FOR THE BUSINESS. ITEMS ONE AND TWO. SECOND, DID YOU SAY I HAVE A FIRST AND SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I, I YOU KNOW, I KIND OF LIKE THIS NEW VOICE YOU HAVE. OH, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT WE'D ALREADY DONE THE COUNTY HAD ALREADY DONE RAYMOND.

NO. OKAY. THAT WAS THE OVER THERE BY THE WAREHOUSES AT PIGGLY WIGGLY WAREHOUSE. THAT'S THE ONE WE DID OVER THERE PARTNERED WITH. OKAY, SO WE SHALL WE'RE HEADING DONE.

RAYMOND. THAT'S THAT'S UP. WE'VE ALREADY DID ALL OF IT EXCEPT THIS PART OF BESSEMER.

OKAY. AND THAT AREA, SIR, SURELY DOES NEED. THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP.

[ADMINISTRATIVE, & INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE]

THE COUNTY SPENT NO FUNDING TO GET THAT RIGHT AWAY. WE'RE VACATING IT TO THE UNDERLYING PROPERTY OWNERS. ITEM TWO IS A CONTRACT FOR SECONDARY PROJECT ON SHADES CREST ROAD THAT WAS FUNDED BY US, HOOVER AND MR. STEVENS. OFFICE ITEMS THREE, FOUR, FIVE ARE ALL EASEMENTS.

SANITARY SEWER PROJECTS. ITEM SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, TEN ARE ALL RIGHT AWAY. PAYMENT RESOLUTIONS. ITEM 11 IS YOU SAW A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, THE TRUSSVILLE SIDE OF THIS CONTRACT RESURFACING AGREEMENT. EDWARDS ROAD IN THE CITY OF BIRMINGHAM, BIRMINGHAM IS FUNDING THEIR PORTION OF EDWARDS LAKE ROAD. ITEM 13 IS OUR AGREEMENT FOR THE HOLLYWOOD BOULEVARD PROJECT. I'M SORRY. ITEM 12. ITEM 13 IS A MODIFICATION OF THIN TABLE ON OUR CHANGE ORDER FOR OLD SPRINGVILLE ROAD. I HAVE A QUESTION ON NUMBER 11. OKAY.

MISS NICHOLSON, IS THAT THE ENTIRE EDWARDS LAKE ROAD ALL THE WAY TO. 7935? YES, YES. SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS JUST THE BIRMINGHAM. WE'RE PAVING THE ENTIRE PORTION. TRUSSVILLE HAS ALREADY ENTERED INTO THEIR AGREEMENT. THAT'S RIGHT. THEY PAID US. THEY'RE PAYING US FOR THEIR PORTION AND WE'RE PAVING OUR PORTION. BIRMINGHAM IS FUNDING THAT PORTION. WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON THAT? DO YOU KNOW? IT DOES. IT'LL BE THIS SUMMER, PROBABLY JUNE TO SEPTEMBER ISH. OKAY. AND THERE ARE FOUR ROADS ON THAT CONTRACT. SO THE ROADS ON THERE, WHEN WE GET A SCHEDULE, WE'LL SEND IT TO YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. AND THIS AMENDMENT ON NUMBER THREE, RELIEF BRIDGE ON OLD SPRINGVILLE. WHAT IS. YES, SIR. SO WE PASSED THIS CHANGE ORDER, I THINK TWO COMMISSION AGENDAS AGO. HOWEVER, THE ARPA IS TIED TO ARPA PROJECTS. ALL THIS IS DOING IS MODIFYING THE TABLE FOR THE ARPA DOLLARS TO BE ALLOCATED FOR THAT CHANGE.

WHAT IS A THING TABLE? I GUESS THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION WAS. I THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. ALL I KNOW IS THIS IS HOW WE TALKED. ANGELA. IT'S A IT'S A CONTRACTUAL PART OF THE

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ONE OF THE ITEMS WE'LL JUST MOVE IT TO THE. THAT'S RIGHT TO THE AGENDA. YEAH. WE JUST MOVED IT TO THE AGENDA. SO. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE COUNTY ATTORNEY. WE HAVE MINUTES FROM THE MARCH 5TH MEETING. AND THEN YOU HAVE SEVERAL. YOU HAVE FIVE PROPERTY CLAIM DENIALS AND YOU HAD TWO OPIOID SETTLEMENTS. NUMBER FIVE ON YOUR PROPERTY CLAIM DENIAL. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THIS LITTLE LADY, FRIEDA HALE, AND SHE'S 80 SOMETHING YEARS OLD. AND HER CAR REALLY DID RECEIVE THE TAR.

AND NO ONE WAS ACTUALLY, ACCORDING TO HER, NOTHING. NOTHING WAS EVER DONE THAT. SO I'VE RESEARCHED THIS. MY OFFICE HAS RESEARCHED IT, AND I FIND THE CLAIM TO BE VALID. I'M GOING TO VOTE TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA, AND I'M GOING TO PROBABLY VOTE TO APPROVE THAT CLAIM. SO I'M JUST GOING TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT FOR. THAT, THAT THIS ONE WAS ACTUALLY RESEARCHED AND LOOKED AT. SO DO WE RESEARCH ALL OF THEM? I TRY TO I'M TALKING ABOUT I TRY, I TRY TO DO ALL OF THEM THAT'S IN MY DISTRICT BECAUSE EVERY TIME I SEE THEM ON HERE, I HAVE NEVER SEEN THEM OR ANY PEOPLE. I DON'T THINK THEY'VE EVER APPROVED ONE UNLESS IT WAS A SEWER CLAIM. WELL, WHY IS THAT? THE DO Y'ALL GO OUT AND LOOK AT IT, OR ARE Y'ALL JUST GOING AND WE TEARING FOLKS CARS UP. PEOPLE ALWAYS DODGES THESE. IF IF WE GOT A PROBLEM, WE ALWAYS SEE SEAN AND, YOU KNOW, HE'S AUTHORIZED TO APPROVE CLAIMS UNDER $10,000. SO THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE APPROVED THAT Y'ALL DON'T SEE. SO WE RESEARCH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. SO DOES THAT MEAN THIS ONE'S MORE THAN $10,000? YEAH. IT'S BEEN DENIED. THAT'S $1,600 TO CLEAN THE BOTTOM OF HER CAR. SHE'S 80 SOMETHING YEARS OLD. AND. OH, SHE'S JUST. IT'S BAD. SO I WOULDN'T CARE IF SHE WAS TWO YEARS OLD. IF THEY TOLD THE CAR WAS TOWED. THE CAR. WE NEED TO FIX IT. WELL, WHERE DID WHERE WAS THE TAR? OH, SPRINGS. WHAT DICK SPRING DOING? PEOPLE LIKE THAT. I'LL GIVE YOU A WHOLE COPY OF THE THE EXPLANATION OF YOUR JOB. IT'S. THEY. THEY PAVED THAT ROAD BETWEEN OCTOBER 17TH AND OCTOBER THE 30TH AND MAINLY TRAFFIC CONTROLS WERE IN PLACE. BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, SHE SAID THERE WERE, THERE WAS NO ONE THERE AND THAT THERE WAS TAR ON THE ROAD. AND SHE HAD GOTTEN OVER THE TAR ASPHALT, GOT ALL OVER THE BOTTOM OF HER OF HER CAR. AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S EVERYONE. I, I'LL, I'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE THIS BACKUP THAT I RECEIVED, YOU KNOW, WOULD YOU MAKE SURE EACH COMMISSIONER GETS THAT.

YES, SIR. THAT WAY YOU CAN YOU'LL HAVE THE INFORMATION NECESSARY TO TO HANDLE YOUR VOTE. OH, WELL, I GUESS IT WAS. SOMEBODY LOOKED AT IT. OKAY. YOU RECORD. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE 1 TO 8 TO THE AGENDA. HOW ABOUT THAT SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE.

OKAY. COUNTY MANAGER, YOU HAVE A GO AHEAD. WE GOT THE EMPLOYEE SERVICE PINS. THE ALABAMA PALS GOVERNOR'S AWARDS. WE GOT A RETIREMENT FOR KATHY BURLESON, DID I? AND THEN WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I'D LIKE TO PULL NUMBER FOUR AND MAYBE GET IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA. I GOT SOME MORE WORK TO DO ON IT. I'LL MOVE ONE, TWO, THREE. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAVE NO ADDITIONAL ITEMS ON MY AGENDA THIS WEEK. WE'RE WORKING ON SEVERAL. THAT WILL BE GOOD, THOUGH. COMMISSIONER KNIGHT, YOU'RE GOING TO WIND US UP

[FINANCE, JUDICIAL, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT & DEVELOPMENT AND GENERAL SERVICES COMMITTEE]

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BOARD OF REGISTRARS. BARRY. SO ARNDALE BOUGHT THE ZAMORA TEMPLE, THE OLD ZAMORA TEMPLE AND CONVERTING TO THE IRONDALE CIVIC CENTER. BUT THEY ARE WAY AND THEY TOLD US WE COULD HAVE THE ELECTION THERE, BUT THEY'RE WAY BEHIND IN THE RENOVATION. SO FOR THE MAY AND JUNE ELECTIONS, WE'RE GOING TO VOTE AT THE LIBRARY. I'LL BE THERE. WE'LL BE MOVING BACK FOR THE FUNERAL TO THE NEWLY RENOVATED IRONDALE CIVIC CENTER. I HAVE A MOTION SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL. THANKS. WE'LL BE RIGHT HERE. OKAY. ALL DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES. Z 24 0056. YES, SIR.

GOOD MORNING. COMMISSIONER. SO THIS IS A CARRYOVER CASE FROM ACTUALLY ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2024. IT'S A REZONING CASE BROUGHT BY JOHN KANE JUST OUTSIDE OF KIMBERLY. AND ORIGINALLY HIS PROPOSAL WAS FAIRLY DENSE, ALMOST GARDEN HOME SUBDIVISION. HE HAS SINCE BACKED THAT OFF AND REDUCED THE NUMBER OF UNITS. SO WHILE HIS PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE MAP, HE HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE AN ABILITY TO TO ACQUIRE A SECONDARY ACCESS AND BASED OFF OF THE DWELLING UNITS HE'S PROPOSED, PLUS THE DWELLING UNITS THAT ARE IN THE KIMBERLY SUBDIVISION THAT HE WOULD BE ACCESSING THROUGH COMING OUT ONTO BOWEN ROAD. WE'RE RECOMMENDING DENIAL FOR THAT. YOU MAY RECALL FROM OUR MOST LAST ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE, WE REFERENCED THE FIRE CODE FOR FIRE CODE OR ANYTHING ABOVE 30 LIGHTS HAS TO HAVE A SECONDARY ACCESS, AND THAT IS FOR FIRE TRUCKS AS WELL AS AMBULANCES. AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH MULTIPLE ITERATIONS WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT WITH JOHN KANE. AND WE'VE NOT HE'S NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET A SECONDARY ACCESS THAT WOULD BE ADEQUATE TO SERVICE HIS DEVELOPMENT.

WELL, THE AGENDA TO CARRY OVER FOR 77 LOTS PROPOSED. SO. YES, SIR. SO THAT THAT CAME FROM THE ORIGINAL 24 CASE MODIFIED THAT. WELL, WE HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS. THERE'S STILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR IT, RIGHT? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO SO MOVED SECOND. OKAY. A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR I I Z 25 003 FOR ALL RIGHT. THE SECOND REQUEST IS FOR A MINI STORAGE IN THE SHANNON WINONA AREA. SO AS WE WENT THROUGH OUR COMP PLAN, WE IDENTIFIED THE COMMUNITY AS AN AREA THAT WE WOULD WANT TO SEE MORE COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT, SOMETHING THAT HAS A LOT OF VALUE TO THE AREA IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC IMPACT. AND THIS REQUEST FOR MINI STORAGE REALLY IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE MAP FOR THAT AREA, AS WELL AS THE GOALS OF THE COMP PLAN IN THAT COMMUNITY. SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING DENIAL ON THIS CASE. DO I HAVE A MOTION? THE ITEM AND YEAH, I DID HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT IT. SO I SEE WHERE PLANNING AND ZONING HAS, HAS BASICALLY DENIED THIS. YOU MIND EXPOUNDING A LITTLE BIT MORE IN TERMS OF WHY. BECAUSE I SEE HERE IT SAYS IT CONFLICTS WITH THE POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO IS IT APPROPRIATE IN THIS SETTING? IF NOT, IT'S OKAY. YOU CAN. YES, MA'AM. I'D BE HAPPY TO ELABORATE. SO WE DESIGNATED THAT ENTIRE AREA. ORIGINALLY WE HAD IT AS ACTIVITY CENTER, AND THEN WE KIND OF BACKED THAT DOWN TO COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, TRYING TO KIND OF SPUR THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET AND IN THE BIRMINGHAM SIDE. SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT, THAT COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, TOP RETAIL RESTAURANTS, THINGS LIKE THAT. THE MINI STORAGE, WE ACTUALLY MOVED THAT AND SELF STORAGE TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WHEN WE UPDATED THE ZONING ORDINANCE. SO THIS WOULD BE THIS REQUEST WOULD BE INCOMPATIBLE WITH WHAT THE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATED IN THAT AREA. A MOVE. THERE, A MOTION SECOND, SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. ALL RIGHT. GOING BACK UP TO THE TOP, WE'VE GOT A

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AND THE THE ASSESSMENT OF THOSE CALLS. WE'VE MADE MULTIPLE ATTEMPTS TO REACH OUT TO THE CHURCH. OUR OUR INSPECTORS HAVE GONE OUT THERE TO TRY AND MEET WITH THEM. WE SENT THEM CERTIFIED LETTER CALLED MAILED, EMAILED WHO WE HAD. WE'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET AHOLD OF THEM OR MEET WITH THEM, TRYING TO DISCUSS THE COST OF THIS AND LOOKING AT THE STRUCTURE. YOU KNOW, IT'S BASICALLY A COLLAPSED HOUSE AND THE ASSESSMENT VALUE IS COMMENSURATE WITH WHAT WE'VE SEEN WITH OTHER PROPERTIES THAT HAVE HAD SIMILAR SQUARE FOOTAGE AND SIMILAR DAMAGE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN CHARGED, TO CALL THAT OFF AND REMEDIATE THE SITE. SO WHAT ARE YOU ASKING OF THE COMMISSION? WE'RE ASKING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE THE LIEN TO THE AGENDA TO APPROVE IT. OKAY. YEAH. THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION MEETING, TWO MEETINGS AGO. YES, SIR. MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH SHOWED UP AND AND STATED THE, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT OR DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO FIX IT. AND Y'ALL ALLOWED US TO POSTPONE THAT WHEN WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM AND NOBODY'S RESPONDED. SO OKAY, JUST BRINGING IT BACK UP.

ALL RIGHT. YOU'VE GOT COPIES OF WRITTEN. YES, SIR. WE'VE GOT RECEIPTS FOR THE CERTIFIED LETTERS THAT THEY MAY SHOW UP ON THURSDAY, BUT WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO MEET THEM INTERNALLY AND MEET WITH THEM. OKAY. YOU KNOW, WE HAD WE HAD SOME CONTROVERSY WHEN WE WHEN WE DID THOSE DEMOLITION CLAIMS ON AT LEAST TWO OF THEM. WHAT'S THE DISPOSITION OF THOSE? SO.

YES, SIR. THIS IS ONE. YES. THIS IS ONE OF THEM. YES. ALL RIGHT. WE HAD ANOTHER ONE. THE SECOND ONE. WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE ACTUAL COST OF THAT THERE. THE PREVIOUS PROCESS WHERE WE WERE APPROVING THESE CONTRACTS, THE THE POTENTIAL BIDDERS WOULD GO OUT AND LOOK AT THE PROPERTY AND SAY, OKAY, I THINK IT'S GOING TO COST ME X TO REMEDIATE THIS SITE, HAUL IT OFF. THEY BID ON THAT SITE. AND THEN SOMETIME BETWEEN WHEN THE COUNTY COMMISSION AWARDED THE CONTRACT FOR THAT SITE AND WHEN WE WENT OUT TO HAVE THE VENDOR GO OUT AND DEMOLISH IT, THE PROPERTY OWNER DEMOLISHED IT AND THEN MOVED EVERYTHING TO THE ROAD BUT DID NOT REMOVE IT.

SO THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF CONTENTION IN TERMS OF THE COST BECAUSE SOME OF THE SOME OF THE LABOR, NOT ALL OF IT WAS, WAS BORNE BY THE PROPERTY OWNER. I THOUGHT IT WAS A 4 OR $5000 DEMOLITION. AND YOU CHARGED SOMETHING LIKE $11,000 OR SOMETHING. SO THE THE ORIGINAL NOT RIGHT. NO. YES, SIR. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A BACKSTORY TO IT. IF YOU RECALL, MANY, MANY MONTHS AGO, WE HAD A DEMOLITION VENDOR THAT HAD VERY, VERY LOW BIDS ON THE PROPERTIES.

AND COME TO FIND OUT HE WASN'T DOING HIS DUE DILIGENCE CORRECTLY, HE WASN'T GETTING HIS PERMITS THROUGH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. HE WAS SUPPOSED TO. SO THE COUNTY, WE RECOMMENDED THE COUNTY COMMISSION TERMINATE THAT CONTRACT WITH THAT VENDOR. WE DID DO THAT AT THE TIME. AN INDIVIDUAL IN OUR OFFICE TOLD THE THIS PROPERTY OWNER, HE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO COST X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS TO, YOU KNOW, THAT $5,000 THAT YOU MAY HAVE MENTIONED TO REMEDIATE THE SITE.

AND I THINK THE CHURCH WAS UNDER THE AUSPICE THAT THEY WOULD JUST LET THE THE VENDOR GO AHEAD AND DO THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE CHEAPER. AFTER THAT, WE TERMINATED THE CONTRACT BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, AND THEY NEVER GOT TO THAT SITE.

THE NEXT LOWEST BIDDER WAS THE ONE THAT HAD THE HIGHER AMOUNT. DID YOU GIVE THE CHURCH A CHANCE TO GO BACK INTO TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY? YES, SIR. THEY THEY HAD THEY HAD TIME TO DO IT IN THE LAST MONTH. WE'VE TRIED AND TRIED AND TRIED TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM TO TALK US THROUGH AND GOT NO RESPONSE. DID YOU GO OVER THERE ON A SUNDAY? YES, WE MIGHT HAVE TO. THAT'S WHEN THEY OPEN THE CHURCH. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THAT ONE? NO, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE CARRYOVER. SECOND CARRYOVER. ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. NOW WE GO TO B 26 001. YES, SIR. THIS ONE IS JUST A BEVERAGE CASE. IT'S A REQUEST FOR A BEER AND WINE LICENSE AT A DOLLAR GENERAL OUTSIDE OF THE PENALTY AREA.

THE MOTION, THE ITEM. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT.

ADMINISTRATIVE TIER ONE REVIEW FOR A NEW 180 FOOT POLE MONOPOLE COMMUNICATIONS TOWER.

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ACCESS IT THROUGH THE SERENE LAKES. BUT IT'S OVER THERE. THERE'S SOME PASTURE LAND THAT'S RIGHT THERE. IT'S KIND OF NESTLED BETWEEN SOME SUBDIVISIONS. HERE WE GO. YEAH.

HI. FOREST LAKE SERENE LAKES IS RIGHT THERE. SO IT'S ALL RIGHT THERE. KIND OF CAUGHT UP IN THE MIDDLE. MAKE SENSE? I'M STILL HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE WITH IT, AND I DON'T GUESS, I GUESS. WAS THERE ANY. DID YOU GIVE OUT NOTICES TO THE PEOPLE? NO. THAT'S NOT REQUIRED FOR, FOR A TOWER OF THIS SIZE. SO THEY'RE JUST GOING TO FUSS AFTER THE FACT. WELL, AGAIN, HONESTLY, THERE'S ONE PROPERTY OWNER THAT'S IT WAS SOLD A TRACT OF LAND THAT'S RIGHT IN HERE. OTHER THAN THAT WE DID HAVE A SUBDIVISION CASE ON IT WHERE ALL THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WERE NOTIFIED, AND THAT WAS THE ONLY PERSON WHO SHOWED UP. AND THEN TWO, THAT THAT ONE PERSON TOO, WAS ACTUALLY PART OF WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THAT SUBDIVISION, BECAUSE THEY WERE CONVEYED THAT PROPERLY THAT THEIR PROPERTY CAN PROPERLY. SO THEY, THEY WERE THE ONES THAT WERE THE ONLY VOICE OF OPPOSITION THAT CAME OUT OF EVERYBODY THAT NOTIFIED IN AND AROUND THERE FOR THAT SUBDIVISION CASE. THAT WAS OVER A YEAR AGO. I MOVED TO THE AGENDA. I HAVE A MOTION SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL RIGHT, GENERAL SERVICES. TRISH, ARE YOU ON? NO. NO, NO. ARE YOU INTERESTED? I, I AM, YOU KNOW, GREEN. YES. IT'S THE GREEN IN MY EYES. I'M SORRY. BROWN. WELL, SO THE FIRST IS AN AGREEMENT TO ASSIST THE CITY OF BESSEMER WITH THEIR UPCOMING ELECTION. THE NEXT IS A CONTRACT TO ADDRESS FLOORS. THE THIRD IS A NAME CHANGE FOR THE COMPANY THAT DOES THE WINDOW CLEANING. AND THE FOURTH IS THE AMENDMENT TO MOVE THE SCOPE OF THE ELEVATOR CONTRACT UNDER THE MAIN CONTRACT. NUMBER TWO, THE FLOORING RENOVATIONS. WHICH COURTHOUSE? THIS ONE. THIS ONE? YES. WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO? THEY'RE GOING TO ASSIST US IN RESOLVING SOME ISSUES WITH FLOOR WAX. OH, OKAY. AND ASSIGNMENT FROM JACK AND JOSE. WINDOW CLEANING TO SQUEEZE SQUAD. YEAH. YEP. ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE 124 AND THE SQUEEGEE SQUAD MOVE ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR. A MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THAT WILL BE PROBABLY. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER ITEMS, BUT I DO WANT TO JUST REFLECT A LITTLE BIT AGAIN ON THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY. THEY DID A GOOD JOB WITH THE STORMS APPROACHING. THEY WERE ON TV. THEY DID SOME INTERVIEWS, VERY PROFESSIONAL.

AND SO KUDOS TO OUR EMA. GOOD TEAM. YEAH. THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. ALL RIGHT. WE GOT A NEW

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ALL RIGHT. CONSIDERATION NUMBER ONE IS THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN SIMS CONTRACTOR FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF GARDENDALE SENIOR CENTER PROJECT. WE'RE EXPANDING THE SENIOR CITIZEN CENTER THERE IN GARDENDALE. AND THIS IS WILL BE PAID WITH CDBG FUNDS. I HAVE A MOTION SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THANK YOU. AND THE OTHER ONE IS YOU, THE FAIRFIELD BOARDS DIVISION FOR A THEY WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP PRESENTATION ON BOYS BASKETBALL. BASKETBALL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I MOVE THAT SECOND. WILL THEY BE HERE THURSDAY. OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO CARRY IT? YEAH, I'LL

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AND LET YOU KNOW WE WON'T BURN DOWN THE ROOM, BUT YOU CAN AT LEAST LIKE THAT ONE CAMERA. I'M SCARED TOGETHER. OKAY, EVERYBODY IN HERE, GUYS, I, I TRULY DO APPRECIATE THAT. AND I FEEL BLESSED. YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR BIRTHDAYS ARE PRECIOUS. BUT THIS ONE, AFTER ALL THE HEALTH PROBLEMS THAT I HAD, IS EXTRA SPECIAL. AND THIS MEANS SO MUCH TO ME THAT THAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND MY STAFF AND EMPLOYEES HERE AT JEFFERSON COUNTY, SECOND HALF OF ME TO DO THIS. AND IT IT TOUCHES MY HEART. AND I CERTAINLY DO APPRECIATE THAT. OH, GOD BLESS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. AND I'M HERE BECAUSE OF YOUR PRAYERS AND YOUR, YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR PRAYERS. AND I'LL SHARE THIS WITH YOU. LAST WEEK, I, I DID RECEIVE ANOTHER PET SCAN, WHICH CAME BACK COMPLETELY CLEAR. AND NOW THEY HAVE CHANGED THE INTERVALS TO WHERE I CAN DOUBLE THE TIME BETWEEN THEM. SO I SAID ALL OF THAT WAS WAS VERY, VERY, VERY ENCOURAGING AND THAT, THAT, THAT I WAS, I WAS BLESSED TO BE WHERE I AM AND I, I AGREED WITH THEM. I, I AM TRULY BLESSED INDIVIDUAL AND I'M THANKFUL FOR THE ABILITY TO CONTINUE WHAT I DO. THANK YOU EVERYONE. WITH THAT BEING SAID. CAO, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING. NO, I JUST WANT TO THANK CHRIS AND THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT FOR DOING A GOOD JOB IN THE STORMS AND SOME OTHER THINGS, AND ANGELA FOR WORKING THROUGH THE AUDIT, THE AUDIT AND APPRECIATE ALL OUR EMPLOYEES VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THIS MEETING IS

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.