LAST WEEK. OH. I'M SORRY. SEEING NONE. THAT MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED. AND COMMISSIONER 
          [I. RECONVENE & ADJOURN THE MEETING OF MARCH 5, 2026]
          [II. CALL TO ORDER & ROLL CALL]
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KNIGHTS IS NOW HERE. I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE MEETING OF MARCH THE 19TH. LISA, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? COMMISSIONER BOLDEN, BROTHER. COMMISSIONER KNIGHT HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER SCALES. COMMISSIONER THYSSEN. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONER STEVE. 
          GOOD MORNING, I AM HERE. THE INVOCATION DAY IS LED BY DISTRICT FOUR. COMMISSIONER KNIGHT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOUR PASTOR? YES. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WE HAVE MR. DOCTOR WAYNE SHELTON HERE. HE IS A PASTOR AT THE REDEEMER PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH IN GARDENDALE. HE'S PASSIONATELY COMMITTED TO REFORM TEACHING WITH HIS EMPHASIS ON GRACE. 
          PASTOR DID HIS THEOLOGICAL TRAINING AT BEESON DIVINITY SCHOOL, SAMFORD UNIVERSITY, AND REFORMED THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY IN JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI. HE'S MARRIED TO MISS MICHELLE AND THEY HAVE THREE GROWN DAUGHTERS AND SIX WONDERFUL GRANDCHILDREN. PASTOR, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. IF YOU'LL STEP UP TO THE PODIUM THERE, SIR, PLEASE RISE. AND AS A AS THE PASTOR FINISHES CAL MARKET, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN OUR PLEDGE? LET'S HEAR A PROMISE FROM THE WORD OF THE LORD. BLESSED BE THE GOD AND FATHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST. ACCORDING TO HIS GREAT MERCY, HE HAS CAUSED US TO BE BORN AGAIN TO A LIVING HOPE THROUGH THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST FROM THE DEAD TO AN INHERITANCE THAT IS IMPERISHABLE, UNDEFILED, AND UNFADING, KEPT IN HEAVEN FOR YOU, WHO BY GOD'S POWER ARE BEING GUARDED THROUGH FAITH FOR A SALVATION READY TO BE REVEALED IN THE LAST TIME. ALMIGHTY GOD, WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY WITH HEARTS FULL OF GRATITUDE FOR THE FREEDOM AND BLESSINGS WE ENJOY IN THIS COUNTY. WE ASK FOR YOUR PRESENCE IN THIS MEETING. GRANT TO THESE COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF THE WISDOM, DISCERNMENT AND COURAGE NECESSARY TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT SERVE ALL PEOPLE WELL. GUIDE THEIR DELIBERATIONS WITH YOUR SPIRIT OF TRUTH, THAT THEY MAY WORK TOGETHER IN UNITY FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THIS COMMUNITY. MAY THEIR HEARTS BE ATTUNED TO THE NEED OF HOPE, AND MAY THEIR WORK GLORIFY YOU. HELP THEM TO ACT JUSTLY, LOVE MERCY, AND WALK HUMBLY FOR THIS COMMUNITY. AND GRANT, OH FATHER, THAT THESE LEADERS SERVE AS EASTER MEN AND WOMEN, A PEOPLE WHO HAVE A LIVING HOPE BECAUSE JESUS CHRIST IS RAISED FROM THE DEAD, IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, AND OF THE SON, AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, WE OFFER THIS PRAYER TO THE GLORY OF THE ONE WHO HAS DIED, WHO LIVES, WHO REIGNS, AND WHO WILL COME AGAIN. AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN. 
          RELIGIOUS PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU, PASTOR. THANK YOU PASTOR. AND WE HAVE COMMISSIONER, YOU HAVE 
          [V. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
BEFORE YOU THE MINUTES OF MARCH 5TH MEETING. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS, CORRECTIONS OR REVISIONS TO THOSE MINUTES? OR CAN WE HAVE A MOTION THAT THEY WILL BE READ BY OUR CLERK? APPROVE THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PRESENTATIONS. 
          [VI. PRESENTATIONS]
WE HAVE DISTRICT ONE RECOGNIZED AND FAIRFIELD HIGH SCHOOL BAND. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. BASKETBALL, FOR A STATE CHAMPIONS. ARE YOU HERE? HEY, HEY. COACH. FOR THE ONE. AND YOUR COACHES. YOUR STUDENTS. GOOD MORNING, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. I WANT TO INTRODUCE TO YOU ALL THE WONDERFUL, MAGNIFICENT FAIRFIELD HIGH SCHOOL PREPARATORY SCHOOL. FAIRFIELD HIGH PREPARATORY SCHOOL, BOYS BASKETBALL CHAMPIONSHIPS UNDER 
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THE LEADERSHIP OF MR. MORRIS. FORWARD. SO, COACH. COME ON. OH, OKAY. I WAS ABOUT TO SAY I'M HAVING TO LOOK FOR YOU. WHERE'S THE REST OF YOUR COACHING STAFF? AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL KNOW THIS IS NOT THEIR FIRST RODEO OF WINNING. WINNING IS WHAT THEY DO. AND SO I FIRST OF ALL, WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNOWS WHO IS PRESENT. WE HAVE DOCTOR REGINA THOMPSON, WHO IS OUR WONDERFUL SUPERINTENDENT FOR FAIRFIELD CITY SCHOOLS. ALSO WE HAVE THE MAYOR OF FAIRFIELD COME ON OVER. AND MR. KHAN'S HERMAN KHAN'S AND THEN OUR PRINCIPAL COME ON UP. YES, SHE SHE'S BEEN IN THERE FOR LIKE, WHAT, TWO YEARS? SIX MONTHS. OKAY. I WAS ABOUT TO SAY. I KNOW WE GOT A NEW PRINCIPAL, AND SO OUR PRINCIPAL IS HERE AS WELL. AND SO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND READ. THANK YOU. OUR RESOLUTION. IT SAYS SIMILARLY, ANYONE WHO COMPETES AS AN ATHLETE DOES NOT RECEIVE THE VICTOR'S CROWN EXCEPT BY COMPETING ACCORDING TO THE RULES. AND WE'RE USING SECOND TIMOTHY CHAPTER TWO VERSE FIVE. WHEREAS IT IS THE POLICY OF THE JEFFERSON COUNTY COMMISSION TO RECOGNIZE STELLAR ACCOMPLISHMENTS BY THOSE WHO POSITIVELY IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS, IT IS OUR ESTEEMED HONOR TO RECOGNIZE THE ATHLETIC ACHIEVEMENT OF THE FAIRFIELD HIGH PREPARATORY SCHOOL BOYS BASKETBALL TEAM WHO IS TRIUMPHANT IN WINNING THE CLASS FOUR, A STATE BOYS BASKETBALL CHAMPIONSHIP PRESENTED BY THE ALABAMA HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION ON MARCH 6TH, 2026 AT THE BJCC LEGACY ARENA. AND WHEREAS THE FAIRFIELD HIGH PREPARATORY SCHOOL TIGERS DELIVERED A COMMANDING 65 TO 42 VICTORY OVER THE ASHEVILLE BULLDOGS, JUMPING OUT EARLY TO A 15 TO 2 LEAD AND MAINTAINING A DOUBLE DIGIT ADVANTAGE FOR MOST OF THE CONTESTS. AND WHEREAS, ALTHOUGH ASHEVILLE NARROWED THE DEFICIT TO FIVE POINTS EARLY IN THE THIRD QUARTER, FAIRFIELD RESPONDED WITH DETERMINATION AND COMPOSURE, STEADILY EXTENDING ITS LEAD. AND WHEREAS THE TIGERS PULLED AWAY DECISIVELY IN THE FOURTH QUARTER, CULMINATING IN A 25 POINT ADVANTAGE IN THE FINAL MINUTE, REFLECTING OUTSTANDING EFFORT, RESILIENCE AND COMPETITIVE EXCELLENCE. WHEREAS, NAME OF HOLD ON. LET ME JUST LET ME JUST GO TO THE BIGGER WORDS. 
          I'M STRUGGLING ON THIS PART, Y'ALL. FORGIVE ME, YOUNGER FOLKS. ALRIGHT, HOLD ON. 
          ALRIGHT. THE TIGERS PULLED AWAY DECISIVELY IN THE FOURTH QUARTER, CULMINATING A 25 POINT ADVANTAGE IN THE FINAL MINUTE, REFLECTING OUTSTANDING EFFORT, RESILIENCE AND COMPETITIVE EXCELLENCE. AND WHEREAS NAMED MOST VALUABLE PLAYER MILTON JONES OF FAIRFIELD HIGH PREPARATORY SCHOOL DEMONSTRATED EXCEPTIONAL PERFORMANCE, LEADERSHIP AND IMPACT THROUGHOUT THE GAME, LEADING THE TIGERS WITH 20 POINTS, 11 REBOUNDS AND THREE BLOCKED SHOTS. WHEREAS THROUGH HIS THIS REMARKABLE PERFORMANCE, THE PLAYERS, COACHING STAFF, FACULTY AND COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS HAVE BROUGHT DISTINCTION TO JEFFERSON COUNTY, ALABAMA, EXEMPLIFYING ATHLETIC EXCELLENCE, DEDICATION, ENTHUSIASM AND SPORTSMANSHIP. 
          WHEREAS, THE TEAM'S DISCIPLINE AND COMMITMENT TO THE SPORT OF BASKETBALL WILL INSPIRE FELLOW STUDENTS TO STRIVE TOWARDS SIMILAR ACHIEVEMENTS. AND WHEREAS THE FAIRFIELD HIGH PREPARATORY SCHOOL TIGERS CONCLUDED THE 20 2526 SEASON WITH A 2610 RECORD AND AN AHSAA4, A TEN STATE CHAMPIONSHIP. AND WHEREAS FAIRFIELD HEAD COACH MAURICE FORD AND HIS STAFF ARE COMMENDED FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP, SKILLFUL TRAINING AND DEDICATION IN GUIDING THE TIGERS TO A STATE TITLE AND SECURING THE SCHOOL'S THIRD NUMBER THREE FOR A CHAMPIONSHIP IN SIX YEARS. SO FOUR OUT OF SIX YEARS THEY HAVE WON THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP. NOW, THEREFORE, UPON THE RECOMMENDATION OF COMMISSIONER LASHUNDA SCALES, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE JEFFERSON COUNTY COMMISSION AT THE STATE OF ALABAMA, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE THE 20 2526 FAIRFIELD HIGH PREPARATORY SCHOOL BASKETBALL TEAM AS THE OFFICIAL A H. S A CLASS FOUR A STATE BOYS BASKETBALL CHAMPIONS. AND SO I WANT OUR COMMISSION, IF YOU DON'T MIND, TO STAND. AND EVERYBODY THAT'S IN THIS ROOM, GIVE THEM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. HEY, HEY. BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T JUST WIN THE COUNTY, THEY WON THE STATE. AND SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'D LIKE FOR TO START WITH OUR SUPERINTENDENT. THEN 
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WE'LL GO TO OUR PRINCIPAL. THEN WE'LL GO TO YOU, MAYOR, AND THEN WE WILL GO ON WITH OUR CHAMP HIMSELF. AND THEN HE WILL INTRODUCE THE BASKETBALL TEAM. IS THAT OKAY? THANK YOU. YES, YOU MAY, AND I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE TODAY FOR THIS HONOR GIVING HONOR TO ALL OF THE DIGNITARIES HERE AND EVERYONE PRESENT. THIS IS AN HONOR. I TELL YOU, COACH FORD IS A LEGENDARY. HE REALLY IS. HE'S STANDING STRONG, BUT HE LOVES HIS BOYS. HE LOVES THEM. HE LOVES THE GAME. HE REALLY DOES. BUT I'M THANKFUL FOR HIM AND HIS SERVICE, WHAT HE DOES FOR FAIRFIELD CITY SCHOOLS AND ALSO FOR THE PRINCIPAL AND THE LEADERSHIP OF MAYOR KHAN'S BEEN HERE, AND JUST THE SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE AS A DISTRICT AS A WHOLE. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. 
          GOOD MORNING. AS MY SUPERINTENDENT SAID, GIVING HONOR TO ALL THE DIGNITARIES HERE THIS MORNING, BEING THE PRINCIPAL OF FAIRFIELD HIGH HAS BEEN NO EASY FEAT THESE LAST SIX MONTHS. HOWEVER, WITH COACH FORD AND THESE BEAUTIFUL YOUNG MEN BEHIND ME AND THE STAFF, IT'S JUST BEEN AN AMAZING RIDE AND I'M VERY PROUD TO SERVE MY STUDENTS AND MY STAFF, AND IT IS JUST A PLEASURE. AND YES, IT IS. I KNOW IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT AN EASY FEAT FOR THEM AS WELL. 
          BUT COACH FORD HAS INSTILLED VALUES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE IN THESE YOUNG MEN, AND IT DISPLAYS IN THE WAY THAT THEY CARRY THEMSELVES AND OF COURSE, IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP THAT THEY WANT. SO I'M VERY, VERY PROUD. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY AND THIS HONOR. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. IT'S THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF FAIRFIELD. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THE SUPERINTENDENT, COACH FORD AND STAFF AND FACULTY FOR A JOB WELL DONE. 
          THROUGH THE CHALLENGES, THEY FOUND OPPORTUNITIES AND THEY HELD ON TO THE ACHIEVEMENT OF HOLDING ON TO THE OPPORTUNITIES TO FIND SUCCESS AND GREATNESS. AND AGAIN, AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY OF FAIRFIELD, WE ARE HUMBLED AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WELL DOING. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING US HERE. AND WE WORK VERY HARD AT THE THINGS THAT WE DO. AND WE REPRESENTED JEFFERSON COUNTY VERY WELL. AND JUST LIKE YOU SAID, ALL THE COUNTIES, WE REPRESENTED JEFFERSON COUNTY. SO WE BROUGHT THE TROPHY BACK TO JEFFERSON COUNTY. SO THIS TIME I WANT TO INTRODUCE MY PEOPLE. FIRST OF ALL, PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEHIND US THAT MAKE IT GO. TANISHA SPEIGHTS, WHO DOES ANYTHING, EVERYTHING THAT WE ASK HER TO DO AS FAR AS PUBLICITY FOR THE KIDS, PICKING THEM UP, TAKING THEM TO EAT EVERYTHING. AND THEN WE HAVE KENDRA STRINGER'S OUR BOOKKEEPER IS OUR BOOKKEEPER. SHE KEEPS THE STATS. AND ONE OF MY COACHES, MORRIS HERE, MY OTHER COACHES ARE AT WORK. AND RIGHT HERE WE HAVE. SO I B I KNOW WE USE NICKNAMES AND NAMES. 
          SO THAT'S THAT'S JB HE'S JB THAT'S A 10TH GRADER. DOOBIE HE'S A 10TH GRADER. IT'S MY MANAGER J. HE'S EVERYWHERE WITH US. THAT'S OUR MANAGER. HE KEEPS EVERYTHING IN LINE UNIFORMS AND EVERYTHING. HE DON'T KNOW HE'S HE KEEPS US IN LINE. SO THAT'S THAT'S RED. ONE. 
          HE'S A SENIOR. HE'LL BE LEAVING US. THAT'S MY MAN. WE JUST GOT MY MAN BACK, MAN. MAN. WE GOT HIS LIFE TOGETHER. HE CAME BACK IN TIME TO JOIN THE TEAM. EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT'S MILTON THERE MJ MVP MILTON JONES THAT'S ERIC. HE WAS ANOTHER ALL-STATE PLAYER RIGHT HERE. 
          ERIC HE'S HE'S A JUNIOR SO HE'LL BE BACK RIGHT HERE WE HAVE JAYLEN KIDD WHICH WAS ANOTHER ALL-STATE PLAYER. HE WAS AN ALL TOURNAMENT. AND PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT LAST YEAR WAS THIS YEAR WAS HIS FIRST YEAR EVER REALLY PLAYING A FULL SEASON OF BASKETBALL. 
          AND HE DID A GREAT JOB FOR US. THAT'S KJ THAT'S CARLOS SCROGGINS JUNIOR. SO HE HE KNOWS WHEN I GET UPSET WITH HIM, I CALL HIS WHOLE NAME JUNIOR. HE DON'T LIKE TO BE CALLED JUNIOR. OH, JUSTIN MURRAY ONE OF OUR TOP FOOTBALL PLAYERS. AND HE'S GOING TO HIGH POINT UNIVERSITY TO PLAY FOOTBALL. AND THAT'S J. HE'S A SOPHOMORE. HE'LL BE BACK AND MILTON IS GOING TO THREE RIVERS JUNIOR COLLEGE TO PLAY BASKETBALL IN THREE RIVERS. SO THAT'S THAT'S US. COACH SMITH IS NOT HERE. RANDALL IS NOT HERE. AND JAY AND TRAVIS MY OTHER THREE COACHES ARE NOT HERE. SO THAT'S US. IT'S US. A LITTLE BIT OF FAIRFIELD. SO THAT'S WHY I ALWAYS SAY WE JUST A LITTLE BIT FAIRFIELD OUTSIDE OF BIRMINGHAM IN THE CORNER. SO WE THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING US HERE. ARE THERE ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS THAT 
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YOU'D LIKE TO EXPRESS THIS MORNING? ARE WE GOING TO DO IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR? THAT'S THE PLAN. THERE WE GO. WHERE, WHERE WHERE IS MJ? I NEED TO MAKE A LITTLE CHALLENGE. WILL YOU? 101. 
          HEY DARREN, WOULD YOU MEET HIM OUT BACK IN ABOUT 20 MINUTES? CONGRATULATIONS GUYS. I KNOW IT'S HARD WORK EVERY DAY. ALL THE PRACTICE, ALL THE WIND SPRINTS YOU HAVE TO DO. I KNOW COACH PROBABLY PUSHES YOU PRETTY GOOD, BUT YOU KNOW THIS IS THE RESULT OF HARD WORK AND, YOU KNOW, KEEPING YOU, KEEPING YOUR MIND IN IT AND YOU AND YOUR GAME FACE ON. AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A EASY THING TO ACCOMPLISH, BUT THIS IS A GREAT THING FOR EACH OF YOU. YOU'LL REMEMBER THIS ALL THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. 
          AND YOU TOO, COACH. GOOD JOB. MILTON AND JUSTIN, THEY'RE TWO TIME STATE CHAMPS. THEY'RE TWO TIME CHAMPION. WELL GREAT JOB. I WOULD LIKE TO I, I PERSONALLY KNOW MAURICE. WE ACTUALLY GREW UP TOGETHER. SO WE'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER OUR WHOLE LIFE. WE ACTUALLY PLAYED COED SOFTBALL TOGETHER. HE'S VERY COMPETITIVE. I'M NOT SURPRISED OF HIM WINNING. DID YOU HAVE ON A THREE PIECE SUIT LIKE YOU AND CAVEMAN USED TO PARK AND MAURICE? THEY USED TO ALL DRESS UP IN THREE PIECE SUITS AND THEY USED TO ALL WIN. SO CONGRATULATIONS. WELL, IS SHE ANY GOOD COACH? YEAH. SHE DOES. SHE FIRST BASEMAN. FIRST BASE, FIRST BASE, FIRST BASE. SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS THAT IF YOU ALL DON'T MIND, I'M GOING TO ESCORT YOU UP. AND THEN THE COMMISSION WILL TAKE A PHOTO WITH YOU. BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REITERATE THIS POINT THAT OUT OF SIX YEARS, THEY HAVE DELIVERED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF FAIRFIELD AND JEFFERSON COUNTY, FOUR OUT OF THE SIX YEARS. SO THE COMMISSION WILL BE SEEING. I'VE PUT A LOT OF MONEY DOWN THERE IN FAIRFIELD, AND YOU SAID THREE THREE. OKAY, BECAUSE WHAT I READ SAID FOUR BEEN TO THE FINALS FOUR TIMES. WELL, YOU'VE BEEN TO THE FINAL. WELL JUST TO EVEN GET THERE AND YOU THE LITTLE FAIRFIELD BUT YOU WON THREE OUT OF. WELL SEE BECAUSE TO ME I BELIEVE YOU'RE A WINNER BEFORE YOU WIN. NOW THAT'S JUST ME. BUT NEVERTHELESS, THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOUR TIMES AND THEN THEY HAVE WON THREE TIMES. SO I WANT TO SAY THAT I AM SO PROUD OF THEM, AND MY PROUDNESS OF THEM ALWAYS IS GOING TO TURN INTO COMMISSION MONEY GOING INTO THAT DISTRICT. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO WIN AND TO COMPETE. 
          THEY GOT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MONEY IN THEIR ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT. SO YOU ALL WILL BE SEEING THAT OUR ILLUSTRIOUS SUPERINTENDENT HAD ALREADY TOLD ME. AND SO I KNOW WE CAN'T DO RINGS. I UNDERSTAND, BUT AND I CHECKED WITH THE LAW DEPARTMENT THIS MORNING AGAIN, TO BE SURE. 
          BUT NEVERTHELESS, WE CAN BE AS SUPPORTIVE AS POSSIBLE. AND ONE LAST THING I WILL SAY ABOUT COACH FORD. HE'S REALLY TEACHING THESE STUDENT ATHLETES HOW TO BE MORE THAN JUST AN ATHLETE. HE'S TEACHING THEM DECORUM. ANY TIME THESE YOUNG MEN GO OUT AND THEY REPRESENT THEIR DISTRICT, OR THEY REPRESENT THEIR CITY AND REPRESENT US, THERE'S A CERTAIN LEVEL OF DECORUM THAT YOU MUST HAVE. AND COACH IS TEACHING THEM ABOUT LIFE SKILLS ON AND OFF THE BASKETBALL COURT. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS TO COACH FORD, TO ALL OF OUR STUDENTS, THE STAFF, THE PARENTS WHO ARE HERE, THE PRINCIPAL WHO'S NOW WITH US, AND THEN TO OUR SUPERINTENDENT AND THE CITY OF FAIRFIELD. WE CANNOT SAY THANK YOU ENOUGH. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND STAND DOWN HERE. AND THIS, COMMISSIONER, IF YOU DON'T MIND, IF YOU WOULD JOIN, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE. BUT AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS AND I'M GLAD I GOT ANOTHER ONE OF MY SCHOOLS IN HERE THIS MORNING, WHICH IS MINOR HIGH SCHOOL. SO WE JUST GOT A WHOLE LOT OF TIGERS GOING ON TODAY AND I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU SO KINDLY. HERE GUYS. COME ON RIGHT OVER HERE. YEAH, I USUALLY SIT DOWN. SO. YEAH I KNOW. RIGHT. SO AND THEN WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO JUST SO. WE. SO. CAN YOU DO ME A FAVOR? 
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SORRY. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT JUST OVER. UNLESS YOU GO OVER THERE, IT'S GOING TO COME OVER OVER HERE. GIVE ME SOME MORE OVER HERE. AND THEN I WANT YOU TO GO OVER THERE. WE TRY TO GET THE PRESIDENT TO COME OVER THERE. YEAH, AN OLD, OLD, OLD, OLD. SIT OVER HERE ANYWAY. 
          ALRIGHT. HOW HOW ARE WE LOOKING AT HOW GREAT WE'RE LOOKING? GOOD. WE GOT THE GAP WITH COMMISSIONER STEVENS IN IT. THAT'S GOOD. AND COMMISSIONER THYSSEN, EITHER THAT OR GET ME A STOOL. LOOKING GOOD. WHAT DO YOU THINK, PHILIP? YEAH. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE READY. ON THE COUNT OF THREE. ONE. TWO. THREE. REPEAT. ALL RIGHT. EVERYBODY GOOD? READY? OOPS. I CAN'T SEE COMMISSIONER STEVENS. HERE WE GO. ONE. TWO. THREE. OKAY. ONE MORE RIGHT HERE. KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN. 123. THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. 
          CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. GOOD JOB GUYS. GOOD JOB. PLEASE GIVE ME ONE. ONE PONY CHASE. 
          YES, MA'AM. OH, THE BEST MAN. THANK YOU. OH, YOU GOT IT? YEAH. OH. WHERE'S CAO? SHOULD BE THE MOST RECENT ONE. CONGRATULATIONS. IT SHOULD BE. I'M SORRY. YEAH. SHOULD BE THE SHOULD BE NEXT ON OUR PRESENTATION AGENDA. WE HAVE A RETIREMENT PRESENTED BY THE COUNTY MANAGER AND THEN FOLLOWED BY EMPLOYEE SERVICE PIN PRESENTATIONS. ON IT. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LETTING US HONOR THIS 30 YEAR EMPLOYEE KATHY BURLESON. JOSHUA JOHNSON, THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, IS GOING TO READ THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU APPROVED. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR LETTING US DO THIS. THANK YOU, CATHY, FOR 30 YEARS AND EXCELLENT JOB. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. I JUST WANT TO SAY REAL BRIEFLY BEFORE I READ THE RESOLUTION. SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, CATHY HAS BEEN THE BACKBONE OF OUR DEPARTMENT A LOT OF WAYS. SHE WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN STANDING UP OUR PL SYSTEM FOR PERMITTING. SHE FULFILLS EVERY CRAZY MAPPING REQUEST THAT I HAVE OF HER FROM FROM ME AND OTHER PEOPLE. AND SHE'S BEEN OUR, OUR TECH GURU. SHE'S ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. I KNOW YOU HEAR THAT A LOT AT THE COUNTY THAT GOES UNSEEN, AND THEIR WORK DOESN'T REALLY ALWAYS SHINE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU. BUT WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING IN OUR DEPARTMENT WITHOUT HER. AND I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON THIS IS DENIAL OF HER RETIREMENT. SECOND, SO YOU CAN YES, YOU CAN TAKE THAT FOR WHAT YOU WANT TO. 
          BUT WITH THAT SAID, I WILL READ THIS RESOLUTION AND THEN LET CATHY SAY HER PIECE BEFORE SHE HEADS OUT. HOPEFULLY SHE DIDN'T BADMOUTH ME TOO MUCH. SO WHEREAS CATHY BURLISON WAS BORN TO TOM AND BARBARA BURLISON IN A SANATORIUM IN WILDWOOD, GEORGIA, ON OCTOBER 13TH, 1975, INTO A MILITARY FAMILY WHERE SHE TRAVELED TO THE NETHERLANDS AND CANADA AS A CHILD BEFORE SETTLING IN HUNTSVILLE, ALABAMA, WHERE SHE GRADUATED FROM GRISSOM HIGH SCHOOL IN 1992. 
          AND WHEREAS SHE ATTENDED THE UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA AT BIRMINGHAM, WHERE SHE EARNED A BACHELOR OF SCIENCE IN ENVIRONMENTAL BIOLOGY IN 1996. AND WHEREAS WHILE IN COLLEGE, 
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CATHY BURLISON BEGAN SERVING AS AN INTERN WITH THE JEFFERSON COUNTY COMMISSION AND IN WHAT WAS THEN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT OFFICE IN THE ADDRESSING DIVISION IN AUGUST OF 1996 AND WAS HIRED FULL TIME IN MARCH OF 1997 AS A CARTOGRAPHER IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT OFFICE AND. 
          WHEREAS, WHILE WORKING AT THE JEFFERSON COUNTY COMMISSION, SHE ASSISTED WITH THE TRANSITION FROM PAPER MAPPING TO ELECTRONIC MAPPING UTILIZING GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION SYSTEM AND BUILT A RESUME OF RESUME OF EXPERTISE IN GIS DATA MANIPULATION, MAINTAINING HISTORICAL ACCOUNTING INFORMATION, SOFTWARE CONVERSIONS, AND PROGRAM MANAGEMENT, RESULTING IN HER CLIMBING THE RANKS IN THE DEPARTMENT, ASCENDING TO HER CURRENT POSITION TO GIS DATABASE SUPERVISOR IN 2008. AND WHEREAS THROUGHOUT HER CAREER, CATHY HAS MAINTAINED GIS PROFESSIONAL CERTIFICATIONS, NUMEROUS PROFESSIONAL AFFILIATIONS, INCLUDING THE NATIONAL EMERGENCY NUMBERING ASSOCIATION, GIS OF ALABAMA, WHERE SHE SERVED AS AN OFFICER AND HAS PRESENTED AT SEVERAL PROFESSIONAL CONFERENCES. AND WHEREAS SHE HAS ALSO SERVED AS AN OFFICER WITHIN THE JEFFERSON COUNTY EMPLOYEE ASSOCIATION AND AS A NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICER FOR THE CRESTLINE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND WHEREAS CATHY ENJOYS ARTS AND CRAFTS, PARTICULARLY MIXED MEDIA DESIGN, LOVES TO TRAVEL. SHE IS AN AVID READER AND MOVIE FANATIC, AND HER LOVE FOR COOKING HAS RESULTED IN WINNING SEVERAL ANNUAL CHILI COOK OFFS IN THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. AND WHEREAS CATHY, THE WIFE OF LAYLA TO WHOM SHE HAS BEEN HAPPILY MARRIED FOR NEARLY 20 YEARS AND IS THE DOG MOTHER OF WHEEZIE, A BELOVED PIT MIX. AND WHEREAS FOR 29 YEARS, CATHY HAS UPHELD A LEGACY OF DEDICATION TO HARD, SMART WORK ON ACCURACY AND EFFICIENCY WITH A HEART FOR THE COMMUNITY SHE SERVES AND HOPES TO CONTINUE TO VOLUNTEER THESE SKILLS FOLLOWING HER RETIREMENT AND NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE JEFFERSON COUNTY COMMISSION, THAT CATHY BURLESON IS HEREBY RECOGNIZED AND HONORED FOR HER 29 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE JEFFERSON COUNTY COMMISSION. HER UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO SERVING HER COMMUNITY. SIGNED BY THE JEFFERSON COUNTY COMMISSION THIS DAY, 19TH OF MARCH, 2026. HEY, JOSH. JOSH, I LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT. YES, SIR. RELUCTANTLY. RELUCTANTLY. RELUCTANTLY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK JOSH FOR READING THAT AND FOR MICHAEL FOR PUTTING IT TOGETHER. AND ALL OF YOU AND THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TO GROW IN THIS POSITION. LITERALLY, I KNEW NOTHING WHEN I WAS HIRED AS A CARTOGRAPHER, AND I HAVE BUILT ALL OF MY GIS SKILLS HERE, DOING ALL THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT I HAVE ENJOYED OVER THE YEARS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS RESOLUTION AND FOR ALL THE TIME THAT YOU'VE ENJOYED MY WORK. MISSUS, I WANT TO ADD ONE THING. ONE OF HER DUTIES, EVERY ADDRESS IN THE COUNTY, SHE HAS PUT THE RIGHT COORDINATE ON IT, PUT THE RIGHT NUMBER ON IT, GOT IT TO THE 911 BOARD. SO EVERY TIME SOMEBODY CALLS 911 TO COME TO MY ADDRESS FOR HELP, SHE MAKES SURE IT'S ACCURATE AND CORRECT. IT'S ONE HECK OF A JOB SHE'S DONE. IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH TO REPLACE HER, BUT SHE'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMISSIONER, TO THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS. NOBODY REALLY KNOWS HOW MUCH IT TOOK FOR HER TO DO IT, BUT SHE DID IT. EXCELLENT. AND WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOU. THANK YOU. CATHY, WHEN WE WHEN WHEN WE CAME HERE IN 2010, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD BEEN HERE QUITE A WHILE AND YOU WERE ONE OF THOSE BRIGHT LIGHTS LEADING US ALONG THE WAY BECAUSE WE WERE GOING THROUGH SOME VERY TUMULTUOUS TIMES, AND YOU WERE NEVER WAVERING. YOU STOOD STRONG AND YOU HELPED US PINPOINT, AS COUNTY MANAGER JUST STATED, GETTING THIS RIGHT. AND FOR THAT, WE WERE ETERNALLY GRATEFUL FOR ALL YOUR WORK. 
          WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOU IN THE BEST OF LUCK TO YOU AND WEEZY. THANK YOU AND I WILL DEFINITELY MISS YOU. I KNOW WE HAD A HARD TIME TRYING TO PUT THE STREETS UP SIGNS UP IN LIPSCOMB AND BRIGHT. IT WAS NO STREET SIGNS, NO STOP SIGNS, JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHICH DIRECTION TO GO, WHICH STREET BELONGED ON WHAT ROAD OR NOTHING. BUT I APPRECIATE IT SO MUCH. AND NOW WE HAVE ALL STREET SIGNS. ALL STOP SIGNS THANKS TO YOU. SO YOU CAN FIND HER WAY HOME NOW. YEAH. 
          PACKAGES AND PIZZA DELIVERY. THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT PART. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. NEXT YOU HAVE YOUR SERVICE PIN PRESENTATION. YEAH. THAT'S NEXT. AGAIN, 
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COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR APPROVAL TO DO THIS, TO RECOGNIZE THE 30 YEAR COUNTY EMPLOYEES. AND WE'RE GOING TO AWARD THEM THE SERVICE PINS HR DIRECTOR WILL READ THEIR NAMES. AND IF THEY COULD COME UP AND LET YOU SEE THEM, AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST DAYS OF THE QUARTER WITH US GETTING TO RECOGNIZE OUR LONG TENURED EMPLOYEES. WE HAVE A TOTAL OF SEVEN EMPLOYEES TO RECOGNIZE. SEVERAL COULD NOT BE HERE, BUT WE WILL GO AHEAD AND READ THEIR NAMES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY RECEIVE THE RECOGNITION. OUR FIRST EMPLOYEE IS MELISSA LYNN, WHO IS A SEWER LINE MAINTENANCE INSPECTOR FOR ESD. YOU WANT TO GET A PHOTO OF HIM, PHILIP? OKAY. PHILIP'S READY. ARE YOU READY TO SHOOT? YOU GOTTA OPEN IT UP. THANK YOU. THAT'S A GOOD SHOT. GOOD SHOT. 
          WE ALSO HAVE TIMOTHY LAWLER, WHO'S AN AUTOMOTIVE HEAVY EQUIPMENT SHOP SUPERVISOR WITH FLEET MANAGEMENT. I KNOW HEATHER ALL THESE 30 YEAR. YEAH. OH WOW. THAT'S A LONG TIME GUYS. 
          SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THERE YOU GO. YEAH. IN THE PHOTO SHOOT YOU WANT TO OPEN YOUR. SMILE. 
          THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. WE ALSO HAVE LISA MARCHAND WHO IS AN IT PROJECT MANAGER WITH OUR TAX ASSESSOR'S OFFICE. 123. LET'S GO LISA. WE HAVE CELESTE BROWN WITH WHO IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL LAB COMPLIANCE ADMINISTRATOR WITH ESD. BRIAN KELLY WHO'S WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY SHIFT SUPERVISOR WITH ESD. TERRY LYNN, WHO IS A SEWER CONSTRUCTION MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR WITH ESD, AND BOBBY SPIGNER, WHO IS A SENIOR WATER POLLUTION CONTROL TECHNICIAN. 
          OH, YOU KNOW. THESE FOLKS ARE FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT DID NOT LEAVE AND I HOPE THEY ARE. OH. 
          YES. WOW. THANK YOU. NOT HERE. OH THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS. WE CAN GET ONE PICTURE WITH ALL OF THEM. SURE. ABSOLUTELY. LISA. IMMA DO THIS THING. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. OH. HERE. HERE. 
          SCOOT. THIS ONE. MOVE DOWN THIS WAY. THERE WE GO. THIS IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE HERE. THAT IS MY PHONE. OH. OKAY. HERE WE GO. FIRST 1123. ONE MORE. 123. THANK YOU. ODIE. NOW YOU'RE DOWN THERE. I DON'T MEAN YOU'RE RETIRING. DOESN'T. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW? WHAT DO YOU 
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NEED TO DO? VAL'S PRESENTATION. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE PRESENTATIONS THAT. 
          COUNTY MANAGER'S GOING TO DO IT. THAT'S OUR PALS GOVERNOR'S AWARD WINNER. RECOGNITION. 
          PEOPLE AGAINST THE STATE. OH, HANNAH. YES. YOU ARE OUR SUPERSTAR. ON THAT NOTE, THE SUPERSTAR ARE THE GUYS AND GALS THAT WORK BEHIND ME IN THE SCENES. AND Y'ALL TO SUPPORT US AND THE COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE TO ALSO SUPPORT US AND CHRIS NICHOLSON TO SUPPORT ME. SO WE ARE ALL SUPERSTARS. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. AND SHE'S SHE'S A SUPERSTAR. SHE'S GOING TO READ IT AND GATHER EACH OF THEM UP. SHE DOES A FANTASTIC JOB, AS YOU ALL KNOW. VERY PROUD AND THANKFUL FOR HANNAH. AND SO TAKE IT OVER HANNAH. YAY! THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. THIS IS SO EXCITING. WE GOT TO CELEBRATE SOME STUDENTS. WE GOT TO CELEBRATE EMPLOYEES. AND NOW WE GET TO CELEBRATE OUR COMMUNITIES. AND I'M GOING TO SAY THIS, AND I MEAN THIS FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART. IF I DIDN'T HAVE SUPPORT FROM OUR MY SUPERVISORS TO OUR DIRECTORS AND DEPUTY DIRECTORS, TO THE COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE, AND Y'ALL, WE WOULDN'T BE STANDING HERE TODAY. SO I WANT Y'ALL TO BE JUST AS PROUD. Y'ALL ARE FORWARD THINKERS TO BE PROACTIVE INSTEAD OF REACTIVE, ALLOWING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY CHANGE BEHAVIORS, CHANGE MINDS, AND GET PEOPLE EXCITED ABOUT TRASH. YEAH, THEY SAY Y'ALL TALK TRASH ALL THE TIME. SO I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST GOING TO STICK WITH IT. ALRIGHT, SO THE FIRST THING IS WE WANTED WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE DOES NOT REPRESENT EVERYBODY WHO PICKS UP TRASH, WHO GOES OUT DEDICATED IN THE HOT HEAT OF EVERYTHING IN THE COLD AND ALL THAT. BUT THESE ARE THOSE THAT WE WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE FOR THEIR EFFORTS. 
          SO PLEASE, BY ALL MEANS, DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF OTHER GREAT SUPERSTARS OUT THERE AS WELL. THE FIRST ONE I'M GOING TO GO BY DISTRICT, IF THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. AND THE FIRST ONE I WANT TO INCLUDE MINOR HIGH SCHOOL. YAY! YOU'RE GOING TO HELP ME OUT. ALL RIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT HERE Y'ALL. MINE ARE HIGH SCHOOL. WHAT WE LOVE ABOUT MINOR HIGH SCHOOL. SO THERE WAS A VILLAGE CLEANUP GOING ON IN THE BIRMINGHAM AREA AND THEY WOULD PARTICIPATE. MRS. ALLEN, WHO IS NO LONGER WITH US, BUT WE HAVE MRS. FELTON. AND SO WHAT THEY DECIDED TO DO, THEY WERE LIKE, HOLD ON, OUR ROAD IS JUST AS DIRTY AND WE WANT TO START SOMETHING. SO THEY STARTED DOING THIS ON MLK DAY AS A DAY OF SERVICE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO COME, THEIR PARENTS, DIFFERENT GROUPS, SO THEY TAKE THEIR DAY OFF TO COME AND ACTUALLY GO OUT AND SUPPORT AND BE THE BE THE CHANGE. THE OTHER EXCITING PART IS MLK DAY IN JANUARY. SOMETIMES IT'S RAINY, SOMETIMES IT'S BITTER COLD. AND SO THEY ALSO. EVEN IF THEY CAN'T DO IT, WHAT THEY. 
          THIS YEAR, THEY WERE ABLE TO DO IT, BUT LAST YEAR I'M GOING TO BE EXCITED. THEY CAME OUT ON PRESIDENT'S DAY. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO JUST BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE 15 DEGREES. IT WAS BITTER COLD, SO THEY POSTPONED IT TO COME OUT ON ANOTHER DAY TO CELEBRATE AND CLEAN UP. MINOR PARKWAY, WHICH IS FIVE MILES LONG, GOES IN THE CITY OF ADAMSVILLE, CITY OF BIRMINGHAM, AND THROUGH UNINCORPORATED JEFFERSON COUNTY. IT CROSSES RIGHT THERE AT VILLAGE CREEK. 
          SO I'M VERY, VERY PROUD OF THEM. AND SO THEY'VE COMPLETED EIGHT. HERE WE GO. THEY'VE COMPLETED EIGHT MLK DAY CLEANUPS, AND THEN THEY'VE THIS PAST YEAR THEY DID 1,540 POUNDS. THAT'S 1540. RIGHT. AND THEN THEY WERE ALSO. SO WE HAVE THE ANTI-LITTER VIDEO HIGH SCHOOL COMPETITION. THEY WERE THE 2025 FIRST PLACE IN THE IN THEIR WATERSHED DIVISION. SO WHAT THAT IS, THAT MEANS THEY GO OUT AND ENCOURAGE, THEY TAKE A VIDEO UP TO 60S. THEY GET PEOPLE TO VOTE ON IT. SO I'M VERY EXCITED FOR THEM FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE. SO I MEAN, WE CAN READ IT, BUT THAT'S THAT'S THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS. YOU WANT TO READ IT? SURE. OKAY. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. GOOD MORNING. SO CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION PRESENTED TO ALABAMA PEOPLE AGAINST A LITERATE STATE GOVERNOR'S AWARD WINNER, MINOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT GOVERNMENT ASSOCIATION. THE JEFFERSON COUNTY COMMISSION RECOGNIZES MINOR HIGH SCHOOL'S STUDENT GOVERNMENT ASSOCIATION AS THE 2025 ALABAMA PEOPLE AGAINST A LITERATE STATE AL PALS GOVERNOR'S AWARD RECIPIENT IN THE EDUCATION CATEGORY, THE STUDENT GOVERNMENT ASSOCIATION WON FOR ITS ONGOING DEDICATION TO PLANNING AND LEADING AN ANNUAL MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR DAY OF SERVICE VOLUNTEER ROADSIDE LITTER CLEANUP ALONG MINOR PARKWAY. STUDENTS AND 
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TEACHERS AT MINOR HIGH SCHOOL HAVE DEMONSTRATED A STEADFAST COMMITMENT TO VOLUNTEERISM AND COMMUNITY SERVICE. A NOTEWORTHY TOTAL OF 873 VOLUNTEERS HAVE TAKEN PART IN THE NINE ANNUAL MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY OF SERVICE CLEANUP EVENTS. DURING THE 2025 EVENT, VOLUNTEERS SUCCESSFULLY COLLECTED AND REMOVED 1,540 POUNDS OF LITTER, TRASH AND DEBRIS FROM MINOR PARKWAY SIGNED BY THE JEFFERSON COUNTY COMMISSION ON THIS THE 19TH DAY OF MARCH, 2026. YOU WANT TO COME AND SAY SOMETHING AND THESE ARE THE FUTURE. THIS IS DUE TO GOVERNMENT ASSOCIATION. SO THEY'RE OUR FUTURE LEADERS. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH THAT'S RIGHT. GOOD MORNING. 
          GOOD MORNING. WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR KEEPING THESE PROGRAMS IN PLACE. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL PALS, TO THE VILLAGE CREEK SOCIETY, TO VULCAN MATERIALS, TO THE CITY OF ADAMSVILLE, THE CITY OF BIRMINGHAM, BECAUSE THEY KEEP US GOING AND THEY KEEP THEY MADE SURE WE HAVE EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED FOR THESE CLEANUPS AND TO KEEP OUR AREA CLEAN. 
          ALSO, THANK YOU FOR EVEN THE LITTLE CRITTER PROGRAMS, BECAUSE OUR STUDENTS ARE ABLE TO ACTUALLY GO OUT AND TEACH OTHER PEOPLE TO KEEP THEIR ENVIRONMENT CLEAN. SO WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND WE APPRECIATE YOU HAVING US. THANK YOU. AND IF Y'ALL DIDN'T KNOW, THEY USE BUSSES TO TRANSPORT THEIR STUDENTS UP AND DOWN THE FIVE MILES OF MOTOR PARKWAY, THEY DROP THEM OFF AND PICK THEM UP. SO SHE'S INSTRUMENTAL. EVEN IF THEY CAN'T FIND VEHICLES, THEY STILL GET IT DONE. SO WE'RE REALLY, REALLY PROUD OF THEM. OH, ME IN THERE TOO. OH. Y'ALL KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TILL AFTER LUNCH, RIGHT? Y'ALL STAY OUT TILL AFTER LUNCH. Y'ALL GO. HEY, ARE YOU GOING TO THE PARK? YEAH, YEAH, GIVE HIM A PASS. I'LL GIVE HIM SO MANY KIDS PASSES OVER THE YEARS, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW. WE CAN SEE YOU, COMMISSIONER. THIS IS NOT THE BASKETBALL TEAM. OKAY? I TAKE TWO SHOTS. FIRST ONE. ONE. TWO, THREE. WE GO AGAIN. ONE. TWO THREE. THANK YOU. YES. SO CONGRATULATIONS. RYAN IS HERE. 
          SO YEAH, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT MINOR HIGH SCHOOL. THEY ARE MOVERS AND SHAKERS AND THEY DO SO MUCH AND THEY REUSE THEIR SAFETY VESTS. AND THEY ALSO WASH AND REUSE THEIR GLOVES. SO THEY'RE VERY BIG ON SUSTAINABILITY. AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO INCORPORATE VULCAN MATERIALS TO ALSO OFFSET. AND THEY PROVIDE LUNCH FOR THEM FOR THEIR STUDENTS. SO IT'S REALLY EXCITING. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE SOMEONE ELSE? OH I'M SORRY. WHAT DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER GROUP? YES. OH YEAH. WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT MORE. OKAY. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, THAT WAS JUST THE FIRST ONE. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. I'LL BE HERE THROUGH LUNCH. DON'T YOU WORRY, BRO. SAID I HAVE TO BE SOMEWHERE AT 6:00. OKAY? NO PROBLEM, NO PROBLEM. JOE, LOOK AT THAT PAPER. OKAY, OKAY, SO THE NEXT ONE. OKAY. COMMISSIONER. THYSSEN. YEAH? I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT STUFF GOING ON IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THAT IS THE CITY OF BRIGHTON. THEY HAVE BEEN PARTICIPATING IN THE VALLEY CREEK CLEANUP FOR YEARS. AND WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT. 
          JEFFERSON COUNTY PARTICIPATES IN THE VALLEY CREEK CLEANUP BECAUSE WE WANT TO DO WATERSHED APPROACH. SO FROM THE TOES, VULCAN ALL THE WAY OUT TO OUT TO THE BLACK WARRIOR RIVER, WE WANT TO ENGAGE EVERYBODY AND MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT WATER DOESN'T JUST SHARE MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES. SO, MAYOR BRIGHTON AND COUNCILOR WHERE THERE YOU GO. I'LL COME ON UP HERE. AND IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE KNOWN THE MAYOR FOR A FEW YEARS. IT'S GOOD TO SEE HIM. 
          BUT THEY'VE BEEN HOLDING STEADFAST VALLEY CREEK CLEANUP, WHICH IS SUPPORTED BY ALABAMA POWER WITH RENEW OUR RIVERS, AND THEY'RE ONE OF ONE OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT COME OUT EVERY YEAR. IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR 16 YEARS. SO I'M PRETTY PROUD OF WHAT THEY DO. AND THEY COLLECT A LOT OF TRASH. SO, MAYOR, YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? WELL, I'M THE FORMER MAYOR NOW. I, I I'M SORRY. I'M SO SORRY. HE RETIRED BOTH OF THEM. I KNEW HIM YEARS AGO. OH MY GOSH, THAT'S EMBARRASSING. I'M SO SORRY. AND I'M NOT THE MAYOR EITHER. YOU'RE NOT EITHER. 
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YOU'RE NOT THE PARENTS. BUT HE'S THE COUNCILOR. HE'S THE HE'S THE ACTIVE COUNCILOR. ALL OF US. YEAH. OH, I'M SO EMBARRASSED. BUT THAT'S OKAY. Y'ALL ARE SPECIAL PEOPLE ALL THE SAME. ALRIGHT. WOULD SOMEBODY PLEASE GIVE HANNAH THE CORRECT LIST? I KNOW I MADE THE LIST. ALL RIGHT, SO YEAH, BUT AT LEAST Y'ALL KNOW I'M GENUINE. SO YOU GAVE ME YOUR PASSPORT? YEAH. YOU KNOW ABOUT THOSE HALL PASSES, DON'T YOU? OKAY, SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING THAT Y'ALL DO. Y'ALL HAVE A GREAT COMMUNITY. WE'VE ASSISTED JEFFERSON COUNTY AND HELPING PICK UP YOUR TRASH. AND WHAT YOU DO REALLY MATTERS BECAUSE IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE WHEN EVERYBODY IS SEEN THROUGH THE THROUGH THE TOES OF VULCAN ALL THE WAY OUT. EVERYBODY'S ENGAGING. SO YEAH, Y'ALL ARE SMALL BUT MIGHTY AND WE ARE SO EXCITED. WHAT Y'ALL DO IN CHANGING BEHAVIORS? YEAH, YOU'RE TAKING BACK YOUR STREETS AND THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO GET UP AND YEAH, THAT'S SO FUNNY. I JUST WANT TO SAY THE NEW MAYOR HAS NOT HAD TIME YET TO PARTICIPATE IN. WE DID ALL THIS. 
          OKAY. OKAY. SO, BUT HE'S WORKING ON IT NOW AND WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH HIM. WELL, AND THAT JUST GOES TO SHOW THE STEADFAST THAT IT'S A COMMUNITY EFFORT AND IT KEEPS GOING. SO YEAH, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO HELP SUPPORT THAT AS WELL. SO WE'LL GET A PICTURE IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY. YEAH UP HERE. COME ON UP GUYS. COME ON UP. YEAH. HERE. I'M GOING TO GIVE THIS TO Y'ALL. Y'ALL MIGHT WANT TO JUST HANG ON. WE'RE DONE. Y'ALL LET US KNOW. YOU SHOULD HAVE. A 80. 
          WE SHOULD HAVE GIVE ME TO HOLD YOU SO YOU CAN SEE YOUR BEAUTIFUL AWARD. YAY! OUTFIT. 
          OKAY, HERE. FIRST ONE. 123. ONE MORE. 123. THANK YOU. NINE. FULL DISCLOSURE. BRUCE WAS ONE OF MY STUDENTS AND HE DID GET A HALL PASS. OH, YAY. GOOD JOB. SEE YOU SAW WHAT YOU DID. YOU CHANGED BEHAVIORS AND GOT PEOPLE ENGAGED. WELL, THAT WAS AFTER DETENTION. YEAH. OKAY. 
          BRUCE WAS ALWAYS ONE OF THE GOOD STUDENTS. HE ALWAYS, ALWAYS DID A GOOD JOB. AND I'M PROUD TO SEE HIM GETTING IN THE POLITICAL ARENA BECAUSE HE ALWAYS HAD A PROCLAMATION TO BE ABLE TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S FANTASTIC. THANK YOU. BRUCE. YAY! OKAY. SHERIFF'S OFFICE, I KNOW THE SHERIFF IS NOT HERE, BUT WE HAVE WONDERFUL REPRESENTATIONS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS THEY HAVE SUPPORTED OUR VOLUNTEER ROADSIDE LITTER CLEANUP FROM FROM THE BEGINNING. THEY HAVE CONTINUED IT EVEN THROUGH VOTING IN A NEW SHERIFF. AND I WANT THAT. WHY THAT'S SO IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE THEY RECOGNIZE WHAT IT IS TO KEEP OUR VOLUNTEERS SAFE. WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS ALONGSIDE OF OUR ROAD. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE DRIVING UP AND DOWN THE ROAD. AS YOU KNOW, SOME DON'T FOLLOW THE SPEED LIMIT. AND SO THEY'RE THERE TO HELP PROTECT AND THEY HAVE THE RESERVES. AND SO THE RESERVES TAKE THEIR TIME ON THEIR OWN TIME TO COME OUT AND HELP SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITIES AND CITIZENS AND VOLUNTEER TO DO SO. AND THEY DO IT WITH SMILES. THEY, THEY'RE, THEY ALWAYS SHOW UP. THEY'RE SO EXCITED TO PARTICIPATE. THEY GO IN AND OUT OF DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES. SO IT'S NOT JUST UNINCORPORATED JEFFERSON COUNTY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS OUTREACH IS THEY'RE ABLE TO GO INTO OUR COMMUNITIES AND OUR COMMUNITIES ARE ABLE TO TALK TO THEM FACE TO FACE. SO WE'RE ABLE TO BREAK DOWN BARRIERS. WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE BETTER, SAFER COMMUNITIES. 
          AND WHAT THEY DO IS INSTRUMENTAL. ALSO, A FEW YEARS AGO, WHEN THEY REALIZED SOME OF OUR COMMUNITIES COULDN'T GET THE TRASH TO THE DESIGNATED TRASH PILES, THEY GOT A GRANT AND AWARDED AND HAVE A TRAILER TO HELP US HAUL THE TRASH BAGS TO A DESIGNATED AREA. THEY GO OVER AND BEYOND. I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH, AND THEY'RE 100% SUPPORTIVE ON EVERYTHING WE DO, AND WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE OR THE SUCCESS HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THE JEFFERSON COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE RESERVES, AND THEY PUT THEIR LIFE ON THE LINE. 
          I'VE SEEN CARS AND THEY'RE LIKE, WHOA, WAIT A MINUTE. AND SO, YEAH, I JUST I CAN'T REALLY SAY ENOUGH. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL KNOW HOW APPRECIATIVE WE ARE FOR HELPING US KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. AND I'M SORRY THAT THE SHERIFF COULDN'T BE HERE, BUT YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT LIKE OVER THE YEARS. AND IT'S I CAN EVEN READ. THEY THIS PAST YEAR, IT WAS 32 CLEANUPS. WE HAD 593 VOLUNTEERS. SO 32 CLEANUPS, 32 SEPARATE WEEKENDS ON CLEANUPS THAT THEY HELPED. AND THEY HAVE DEPENDING ON THE 
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SIZE, THEY HAVE AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE AND A LOT OF TIMES FOUR AND FIVE. IN MONROE PARKWAY, IT'S EVEN UP TO SIX AND 50,000 POUNDS OF TRASH. THAT'S 25 TONS OF TRASH. Y'ALL WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING OUR VOLUNTEERS BE SAFE TO PICK UP. AND AGAIN, WE COULDN'T BE SO SUCCESSFUL WITHOUT Y'ALL. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING YOUR LIFE ON THE LINE EVERY DAY FOR US AND HELPING US MAKE IT JEFFERSON COUNTY A BETTER PLACE. Y'ALL ARE THE BOMB. YEAH. THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH. BEST CHEFS IN THE WORLD. AND I MIGHT BE LONG WINDED, BUT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THESE THESE AGENCIES ARE THE DEPARTMENTS. THE STAFF REALLY KNOW HOW APPRECIATIVE WE ARE. AND THESE THREE ARE THE ONES THAT HELP US SCHEDULE ALL OUR EVENTS, MAKE SURE TOUCH BASE WITH US. AND IF ONE GETS CANCELED, THEY'RE THERE. IF WE GET ONE POPPED UP, THEY'RE THERE. I MEAN, THEY ARE JUST THERE. THEY ARE THEY Y'ALL ARE THE BEST. AND WE JUST THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR CONTINUING SUPPORTING THIS PROGRAM. JEFFERSON COUNTY AS A WHOLE AND OUR CITIZENS, Y'ALL ARE JUST AMAZING. GO BE AMAZING EVEN MORE. THIS YEAR IN THE STATE. 
          AND SO WE'RE THE OTHER THING ABOUT DISTRICT THREE, NOT EVERYBODY WAS ABLE TO BE HERE. 
          WE ALSO HAVE OAK GROVE HIGH SCHOOL. THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO BE HERE. THEY ARE ONE OF THE FIRST HIGH SCHOOLS THAT PARTICIPATED IN OUR PROGRAM. THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR 12 YEARS. AFTER COVID. 
          THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE OF ISSUES, BUT THEY OVERCAME THAT. THEY DECIDED THEY GO AND CLEAN UP DURING A SCHOOL DAY WITH A SS O OFFICERS, AND THEY ALSO DO BUSSES. SO EVEN IN TIMES OF STRESS, THEY OVERCAME THEIR OWN BARRIERS AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR 13 YEARS BECAUSE ONE YEAR THEY COULDN'T. AND WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT IS KIDS THAT WERE IN KINDERGARTEN SAW THE SENIORS DO IT AND START IT. AND NOW IT'S A LEGACY OF THE SCHOOL ITSELF. SO EVEN FROM THE YOUNGSTERS ALL THE WAY UP. SO IT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. YOU THINK, OH, IT'S JUST BEEN A DECADE OR SO. BUT THAT'S REALLY INSTRUMENTAL WHEN IT COMES TO TO STUDENTS IN THE LEARNING SYSTEM. SO WE WANT TO YEAH. THAT'S EXCITING. ALL RIGHT CLASS TRAN DID CHERIE GET A CHANCE? OH NO. CHERIE. OH WAIT. HERE YOU ARE. COME ON UP, GIRL. 
          I HAVE MET HER. A COLD CALLED HER. HEATHER GAVE ME HER PHONE NUMBER BECAUSE I SAID, HEATHER, I HAVE AN IDEA. AND SHE'S LIKE, YOU NEED TO CALL. AND SO I CALLED, CALLED A CLASS TRAN. 
          AND I SAID, I HAVE THIS CRAZY IDEA. WE WANT TO DO A BUS AD ON THE BACK OF A BUS, PART OF OUR LITTER CRITTER ANTI-LITTER VIDEO COMPETITION. AND THEY WERE LIKE, THIS SOUNDS FABULOUS. 
          WE'RE ON THE ROADS AND WE FEEL RESPONSIBILITY AND A PARTNERSHIP TO THIS. SO WE DID A PROGRAM AND IN YOUR PACKET YOU WILL SEE IT IS A PAGE. YOU GET TO SEE THE BACK OF THE BUS ADS AND IT'S, DON'T MAKE ME PULL THIS BUS OVER, RIGHT? DRIVING FOR A LITTER FREE FUTURE. AND SO THEY WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US GET IN-KIND DONATIONS. SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO SPEND AS MUCH. SO WE GOT A DISCOUNT AND THEY TOOK IT AS AN OWNERSHIP. AND ONE OF THE. 
          SO WHEN WE FIRST TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT PICTURES, BLESS THEM, BECAUSE IT WENT BACK AND FORTH, THE LADY WAS SMILING. THEY GOT ONE OF THEIR BUS DRIVERS PARTICIPATED IN OUR BUS. AND THEN SHE WAS SMILING AND I WAS LIKE, NO, I NEED AN I LOVE LUCY. LIKE, I MEAN, STARE LIKE YOU'RE TURNING AROUND. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BACK OF THE BUS, YOU'RE ACTUALLY SEEING THE BUS DRIVER. LIKE, DON'T MAKE ME PULL THE BUS OVER AND IT'S FABULOUS. WE WRAP FIVE BUSSES THERE IN ALL YOUR COMMISSION DISTRICTS. THEY'VE BEEN RUNNING AROUND TOWN, ALL IN ALL YOUR COMMISSION DISTRICTS. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THIS. THEY HAD OF THE FIVE BUSSES, 116,827 MILES, AND WE GOT 29.7 IMPRESSIONS. AND IT'S SO EXCITING WHEN YOU SEE THEM AND YOU GO DOWN THE STREET, YOU'RE LIKE, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'RE SO APPRECIATIVE AND WE COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT YOU. AND JUST THE SHEER PARTNERSHIP OF WANTING TO PARTICIPATE AND BE PART OF THE ANTI-LITTER MOVEMENT WE HAVE. YAY. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK? I DO WANT TO JUST CLEAR UP. MY NAME IS TIFFANY TAYLOR. 
          I'M FINANCE MANAGER. OKAY. I AM A PART OF HERE REPRESENTING MISSOURI. SHE'S CURRENTLY OFF ON MEDICAL LEAVE. OKAY, SO SHE ASKED THAT I STEP IN AND ACCEPT THE AWARD ON THEIR BEHALF. OH, SHE TOLD ME SHE WAS COMING, AND SO I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SEE HER AT THE THING, SO I'M JUST MESSING UP. I'M GLAD Y'ALL PAY ME THE BIG BUCKS TO MESS UP AS MUCH AS I HAVE TODAY. YOU'RE FINE, YOU'RE FINE. BUT WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO GET A PICTURE WITH THE COMMISSION AND JUST PLEASE, Y'ALL, EVERYTHING THAT Y'ALL DO. AND WE STILL THEY DID NOT REMOVE THE BACK OF THE BUS. 
          SO WE ARE STILL GETTING FREE ADVERTISING. AND THEN THEY HAVE SOME NEW BUSSES COMING. SO Y'ALL JUST STAY TUNED WHEN I COME AND ASK YOU FOR SOME MORE FUNDS. JUST KNOW IT'S FOR GOOD 
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STUFF. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR HANNAH'S LACK OF ENTHUSIASM. 
          SORRY. YEAH, YEAH, GO ON UP AND GET A PHOTO WITH THE COMMISSION. SHE'S BEAUTIFUL. SO. YEAH. AND IF Y'ALL DIDN'T KNOW, THEY TRANSPORT PEOPLE ALL OVER JEFFERSON COUNTY. IT'S A FREE SERVICE THAT THEY PROVIDE, SO THEY DO REALLY GOOD THINGS. AND THE BEST PART. ONE TWO, THREE ONE MORE 123. THEY TOOK OWNERSHIP AND RESPONSIBILITY FOR TRASH. THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE HAVE ON OUR ROAD, THE NEXT ONE IS GOING TO BE GONE FOR GOOD. AND THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO PARTICIPATE. THEY THOUGH HAVE OFFERED FREE SERVICES FOR OUR SPRING HAZARDOUS WASTE DAY FOR PAPER SHREDDING. SO WHAT THEY'VE DONE HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL. IT'S BEEN PRETTY EXCITING TO HAVE A SPRING HAZARDOUS WASTE DAY. WE HAVE ONE IN THE FALL. THANK YOU HEATHER. BUT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO BE HERE. BUT WE WANTED TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY'RE REALLY INSTRUMENTAL IN WHAT THEY PROVIDE FOR US. AND THEN KIMBRELL'S GROCERY IS PART OF THE VALLEY CREEK CLEANUP. DID. STEVE. OKAY, SO KIMBO'S GROCERY, WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS PART OF THE VALLEY CREEK CLEANUP, JUST LIKE BRIGHTON. THEY PROVIDE FOOD, LUNCHES AND DRINKS FOR ALL THEIR VOLUNTEERS, AND THEY HAVE DONE STEADFAST FOR YEARS. SO WE'RE SO APPRECIATIVE OF WHAT STEVE OR JAMES, I ALWAYS CALL HIM STEVE. THAT'S THE FUNNIEST JOKE. BUT JAMES KIMBRELL HAS DONE FOR YEARS, AND I'M SURE HE'S BACK THERE FLIPPING BURGERS AND FEEDING HIS FEEDING HIS PEOPLE SO HE WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE. SO THEN WE ALSO HAVE AND THEY GOT A SPECIAL AWARD. IT WAS THE JEAN MCCRADY SERVICE AWARD. SHE WAS INSTRUMENTAL WITH ALABAMA PALS CLAY-CHALKVILLE HIGH SCHOOL COMMISSIONER NIGHT. YAY! SO THEY'RE THE TV PRODUCTION CLASS. 
          THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO PARTICIPATE. THEY'RE TAKING SOMETHING IMPORTANT CALLED ACT TEST. SO THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO COME. BUT WE'RE REAL EXCITED AND THEY PARTICIPATE. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN CLEANUPS AND PARTICIPATE IN THE VOLUNTEER ANTI-LITTER VIDEO COMPETITION, LITTER QUITTERS. SO WE'RE REAL EXCITED WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. THEY'VE REMOVED 3,340 POUNDS OF LITTER, AND THEY WERE IN THE SECOND PLACE WINNER IN THE ALABAMA IN THE LITTER QUITTERS VIDEO COMPETITION. SAME THING. HEWITT-TRUSSVILLE HIGH SCHOOL. I KNOW YOUR KIDS, STUDENTS IN YOUR DISTRICT ARE JUST BUSY. I KNOW. YEAH. SO HEWITT-TRUSSVILLE HIGH SCHOOL AGAIN. WHAT THEY'VE DONE INSTRUMENTAL WITH THE LITTER QUITTERS VIDEO COMPETITION. 
          THEY CAME IN THIRD PLACE, BUT WE TOLD THEM, GAVE THEM TIPS AND TRICKS FOR THEM TO WIN THE FIRST PLACE AND WIN $1,000. SO. BUT HEWITT-TRUSSVILLE HIGH SCHOOL WASN'T ABLE TO PARTICIPATE TODAY. BUT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET THEIR THEIR CERTIFICATES. 
          ALL RIGHT. CITY OF GARDENDALE. COME ON, BILL CASSIDY. YAY! I MET MR. CASSIDY WHEN WE WERE PLANNING A FALL HAZARDOUS WASTE DAY. AND THEN THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH HAS TAKEN OVER THAT SITE IN THE CITY OF GARDENDALE. IT'S INSTRUMENTAL TO US IN THE SPRING. SO JEFFERSON COUNTY, WE SAVE MONEY BECAUSE WE PARTNER WITH DIFFERENT CITIES, ALLOWING THEM TO HELP PROMOTE. SO THEY USE THEIR SERVICE, THEIR STAFF IN THE GOVERNMENT. Y'ALL PARTICIPATE. THE. YEP. AND THEN YEAH, AND THEY COORDINATE THE LOCATION. THEY ALSO GET LOCAL BUSINESSES SO THAT WE GET IN-KIND DONATIONS. SO THEY HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN THIS. AND WE JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE WE COULDN'T HOST THE SPRING EVENT WITHOUT PARTICIPATION, SUCH AS Y'ALL'S AND WHAT Y'ALL DO FOR US. SO WE ARE ALSO A GOOD PROVIDER AND SUPPORTER, BUT WE COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT Y'ALL. Y'ALL COORDINATE THE POLICE. YOU PICK UP THE PRESCRIPTIONS, Y'ALL DO AMAZING STUFF. SO WE WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU WITH A RECOGNITION FOR ALL YOUR WORK. 
          AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW. SHAMELESS PLUG. APRIL 25TH HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE DAY. AND THIS TIME WE'RE ACCEPTING GLASS. OOH, YEAH. GLASS, CARDBOARD, PLASTICS, ONE AND TWO. SO. YEAH. SO COME ON UP. WE'D LOVE TO GET YOUR PICTURE. SO YEAH. HOUSEHOLD SPRING, HAZARDOUS WASTE DAY. WE WANTED TO EXPAND. AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO START PUTTING TOGETHER A CARDBOARD RECYCLING PROGRAM BECAUSE IT'S BEEN INSTRUMENTAL. SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING THAT Y'ALL DO. 123, ONE MORE. 123. YES. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND THIS IS TRUE DEDICATION FOR MUNICIPALITIES, JURISDICTIONS WORKING TOGETHER FOR THE COMMON GOOD OF THE CITIZENS. SO IT'S PRETTY EXCITING. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER BOLAN, YOU SADLY, 
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JAY AND LIZ WEREN'T ABLE TO COME, BUT THEY HAVE SPEARHEADED A CLEANUP ALONG SICARD HOLLOW ROAD FOR MANY YEARS. EVEN WHEN THERE WASN'T ANYBODY THERE, THEY DIDN'T HAVE TRANSPORTATION. 
          THEY GOT A LITTLE A LITTLE THING TO PUT ON THE BACK OF THEIR MOTOR, THEIR ELECTRIC CAR, AND THEY'VE BEEN HAULING TRASH UP AND DOWN SICARD HOLLOW, WHICH, IF Y'ALL DIDN'T KNOW, IS SEVEN MILES. IT GOES IN THE CITY OF BIRMINGHAM, CITY OF VESTAVIA AND MAJORITY, AN UNINCORPORATED COUNTY. SO THEY HAVE TO WORK. THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO BE HERE. AND THIS YEAR WE'VE BEEN PICKING UP TRASH ALONG SICARD HOLLOW ROAD. IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST LITTERED ROADS THAT WE HAD, AND THEY DECIDED THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WASTE THEIR EFFORTS. THEY'RE NOW JOINING AND THEY'RE DOING CREEK CLEANUPS ALONG THE CAHABA TO HELP PROTECT. SO THEY HAVEN'T STOPPED WITH THEIR ENGAGEMENT OF BETTER ANTI-LITTER. SO YEAH, BUT SADLY, THEY AREN'T HERE TODAY. AND THAT. I'M SORRY, I GOTTA LEAVE Y'ALL. I GOT WORK, I GOT I GOT A LOT OF WORK, SO I WANT TO NOMINATE YOU FOR AUNTIE LITTER. I THINK YOU NEED TO REPLACE HER BECAUSE SHE RETIRED. 
          ABOUT PAT MITCHELL. RETIRED A FEW YEARS AGO. SHE DID I NOMINATE YOU? YAY. BUT WE HAVE A NEW. WE'RE DOING THE THE KIDS ACTIVITY BOOKS AND WE HAVE CAPTAIN CANNOT. SO INSTEAD OF ANTI LITTER, CAN I BE CAPTAIN CANNON? NO HE'S NOT HIS PHONE. BUT YOU CAN HELP PREVENT LITTER. 
          YEAH. BY PUTTING YOUR TRASH IN A CAN GET IT CAN YOU GOT THAT COMMISSIONER. YOU GOT THAT. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING Y'ALL DO. I'M SORRY I TOOK TOO LONG, BUT Y'ALL ARE AMAZING. THANK YOU FOR HELPING US HELP YOU HELP THE CITIZENS. AND WITH THAT, Y'ALL HAVE A GREAT FRIDAY EVE. THANK YOU. HANNAH. GUYS, NEXT ON GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. THIS 
          [VII. PUBLIC HEARINGS]
IS AN AMENDMENT 772 HEARING FOR BRASFIELD AND GORRIE FOR OUR JOBS INCENTIVE. IT'S PURSUANT TO 772 FOR CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION CONCERNING THE PROPOSED AUTHORIZATION, EXECUTION AND DELIVERY ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY OF A PROJECT AGREEMENT WITH BRASFIELD AND GORRIE. THIS IS A PROJECT AGREEMENT FOR THEIR CORPORATE OFFICES. THEY'VE BEEN HERE FROM THE FROM ITS INCEPTION, AND THEY'VE CHOSEN TO TO REMAIN HERE, ALTHOUGH THEY ARE A WORLDWIDE COMPANY, TO BE RIGHT HERE IN BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA. AND AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR. 772 PUBLIC HEARING FOR BRASFIELD AND GORE. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF OR IN OPPOSITION TO THIS? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. MOVE THE ITEM. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED. 
          AND SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? UNANIMOUS. GUYS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONFIDENCE THAT YOU'VE SHOWN IN IN OUR COUNTY. AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO TO BE GOOD PARTNERS WITH YOU IN MOVING FORWARD. NEXT WE HAVE IS A RESOLUTION TO TO ASSENT TO, TO, TO REQUEST A VACATION AT 5716 MEXICO AVENUE. IT'S A 40 FOOT WIDE, UNDEVELOPED RIGHT OF WAY SOUTH OF LOTS ONE, TWO AND THREE OF THE W O BLACKWELL EYRE SUBDIVISION. JOSH IS COMMISSIONER. YOU WANT TO DO IT? YES, SIR. THIS IS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY DEPARTMENT, SIR. OKAY. 
          WILL PRESENT IT REAL QUICK. SO THIS IS A PAPER ROAD IN THE MCDONALD'S CHAPEL AREA. IT'S A ROAD THAT WAS NEVER DEVELOPED. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP HERE, IT'S MOSTLY GRASS. WE DID NOT ACQUIRE USING ANY FUNDING. SO THEREFORE WE'RE VACATING IT BACK TO THE UNDERLYING PROPERTY OWNERS. THEY'LL SPLIT IT HALF AND HALF. LIKE TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME FOR THE ASSENT, TO REQUEST VACATION FOR MEXICO AVENUE. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF OR IN OPPOSITION TO THIS? SEEING NONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. 
          SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THERE ARE NONE. NEXT IS THE ZONING CASE Z 24 0056. IT'S A JOHN C KANE AND THOMAS AND MICHAEL DE BURGH, THEIR OWNERS. THEY REQUEST A CHANGE IN ZONING TO R SEVEN. JOSH? YES, SIR. GOOD MORNING AGAIN. THIS IS A CARRY OVER CASE FROM ALL THE WAY BACK IN 2024. IT IS JUST OUTSIDE OF THE 
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CITY OF KIMBERLY AND THE FRANKLIN PARK SUBDIVISION. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOR AR7 ZONING, WHICH WOULD BE ROUGHLY A LITTLE LESS THAN HALF A DWELLING UNIT PER ACRE. SO PRESENTLY THE SITE IS ZONED FOR A1 AGRICULTURE, WHICH ALLOWS FOR UP TO ONE DWELLING UNIT PER ACRE. SO HIS PROPOSAL IS LESS DENSE THAN WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED THERE OTHERWISE BY RIGHT. SO IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE LAND USE MAP, AS YOU'LL SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE. OUR OUR LATEST COMP PLAN HAD THIS AREA DESIGNATED FOR AGRICULTURAL AND RURAL AND. GO HERE. SO THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS FAIRLY DENSE. IT WAS AROUND 77 LOTS. AND THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE YOU HEARD BACK IN 2024. HE WENT TO PNC AGAIN AND REVISED IT A SECOND TIME TO 47 LOTS. AND HIS LATEST ITERATION IS 30 LOTS. SO DESPITE THE FACT THAT IT IS, I WOULD SAY IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE LAND USE PLAN IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL LAND USE, THE APPLICANT HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO SECURE A SECONDARY ACCESS FROM THIS SUBDIVISION. SO BASED OFF OUR ZONING ORDINANCE WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE A SECONDARY ACCESS FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO INCLUDE AMBULANCES AND FIRE TRUCKS, AS WELL AS TRAFFIC THROUGH THE ADJACENT SUBDIVISION. ON KIMBERLY, WE'RE RECOMMENDING DENIAL ON THIS CASE. THERE'S BEEN FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT OPPOSITION FROM THE CITY OF KIMBERLY. YOU KNOW, THEIR THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTS IN FRANKLIN PARK SUBDIVISION. OKAY, IS LIKE TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF OR IN OPPOSITION TO THIS APPLICANT IS HERE. APPLICANT IS HERE. COME ON UP. STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. OKAY. 
          I'M GOOD. COMMISSIONERS, I'M JOHN KANE. I LIVE AT 848 MOUNTAIN VIEW DRIVE IN GARDENDALE, ALABAMA. WE'VE BEEN AT THIS CASE A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, AND I BROUGHT WITH ME MY ENGINEER AND ALSO MY ATTORNEY WITH ME TODAY. AND WHAT THIS ALL BOILS DOWN TO IS, IS WE STARTED AT 99. WE WENT TO 77, WE WENT TO 46, AND NOW WE WENT DOWN TO 30 LOTS ON A 70 ACRE TRACK. WE FEEL LIKE THAT. WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE THE REGS ARE. 
          WE ALSO BROUGHT, WHICH I JUST WANT TO CONCENTRATE ON THE INGRESS EGRESS AND THE EMERGENCY ACCESS AND TALK ABOUT THE 2024 INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE THAT WAS RECENTLY ADOPTED BACK IN JUNE OF 2025. AND THIS IS WHAT THIS CASE BOILS DOWN TO. SO I, WE, WE DO HAVE, I THINK MAYBE AS MUCH AS TWO, POSSIBLY THREE ATTORNEYS OR, OR HAVE LAW DEGREES ON THE COUNTY COMMISSION. I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU ALL WOULD LOOK AT THE PROVISIONS THAT ARE PROVIDED IN THE CODE THAT WOULD ALLOW ME TO DO THIS AND THAT YOU WOULD LISTEN TO MY ENGINEER AND ALSO MY ATTORNEY IN THIS CASE, TO BE ABLE TO AT LEAST GET AN APPROVAL HERE TODAY. I THINK WE'VE GONE FAR BEYOND WHAT WAS REQUIRED OF US. SO I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I ALSO BROUGHT UP THE SECTION OF THE CODE AND I BLEW IT UP, SO I CAN PUT THAT UP FOR YOU THAT YOU ALL CAN READ YOURSELF. I'D LIKE TO FIRST HAVE MY ENGINEER COME UP AND READ A PREPARED STATEMENT, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU ALL. THAT'LL BE FINE. THANK YOU, MR. ENGINEER. NAME AND ADDRESS. AND WHETHER YOU'RE FOR OR AGAINST. MY NAME IS BRIAN PRESNELL. I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT HELPING MR. CAIN. MY ADDRESS IS 1703 MCCONNELL LANE, MOUNT OLIVE, ALABAMA, 35117. SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S BEEN A CONCERN REGARDING THE PROVISION OF THE SECONDARY ACCESS POINT FOR THE SUBDIVISION, BUT WE WANT TO ADDRESS THAT CONCERN DIRECTLY FROM A LIFE SAFETY PERSPECTIVE AND FROM A REGULATORY STANDPOINT. FIRST, WITH RESPECT TO THE EMERGENCY ACCESS AND THE FIRE PROTECTION, THE INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE DOES ESTABLISH THRESHOLDS WHERE A SECONDARY ACCESS IS TYPICALLY REQUIRED. HOWEVER, IT ALSO CLEARLY PROVIDES AN ALTERNATE COMPLIANCE PATH, SPECIFICALLY, THE INSTALLATION OF AN APPROVED AUTOMATIC SPRINKLER SYSTEM OF THE DEVELOPERS FULLY COMMITTED TO INSTALLING THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM IN ALL HOMES WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT LIFE SAFETY ENHANCEMENT THAT DIRECTLY ADDRESSES THE INTENT OF THE FIRE CODE BY REDUCING FIRE RISK, SLOWING FIRE SPREAD, AND IMPROVING OVERALL OCCUPANT AND 
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RESPONDER SAFETY. IN OTHER WORDS, THE CORE SAFETY CONCERN THAT WOULD NORMALLY JUSTIFY A SECOND ACCESS IS BEING PROACTIVELY MITIGATED. AND THEN THE SECOND REGARDING THE COUNTY SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, THESE REGULATIONS DO NOT IMPOSE AN ABSOLUTE REQUIREMENT FOR THE SECONDARY ACCESS. INSTEAD, THEY RELY ON PRACTICAL DESIGN STANDARDS AND ENGINEERING JUDGMENT. THEY SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT THE STREET EXTENSIONS ARE ONLY REQUIRED UNLESS PREVENTED BY TOPOGRAPHY OR OTHER PHYSICAL CONDITIONS, OR UNLESS DEEMED UNNECESSARY BY THE COUNTY ENGINEER. SO IN THIS CASE, A SECONDARY ACCESS IS NOT JUST SIMPLY DIFFICULT, IT'S NOT FEASIBLE BECAUSE WE DO NOT OWN, NOR DO WE HAVE LEGAL CONTROL OVER ANY ADJACENT PROPERTY THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO CONSTRUCT A SECONDARY CONNECTION. AND WITHOUT THAT LEGAL ACCESS, IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO BUILD A COMPLIANT ROADWAY CONNECTION. REGARDLESS OF THE DESIGN INTENT. 
          THE REGULATION ALSO CLEARLY ANTICIPATES SITUATIONS LIKE THIS BY ALLOWING PERMANENT DEAD END STREETS, PROVIDED THAT THEY MEET DESIGN AND SAFETY STANDARDS, AND OUR DESIGN WILL COMPLY WITH THOSE STANDARDS AND HAS BEEN DEVELOPED WITH SAFETY AND ACCESSIBILITY IN MIND. SO WE MEET THE FIRE CODE THROUGH AN THROUGH AN APPROVED AND ENHANCED LIFE SAFETY ALTERNATIVE. FULL SPRINKLER PROTECTION. THE COUNTY'S REGULATIONS DON'T MANDATE SECONDARY ACCESS IN ALL CASES, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, A SECOND ACCESS IS PHYSICALLY AND LEGALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO ACHIEVE AT THIS LOCATION. SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR AN EXCEPTION TO AVOID A REQUIREMENT, WE'RE JUST DEMONSTRATING COMPLIANCE WITH THE APPLICABLE CODES WHILE WORKING WITHIN REAL WORLD, REAL WORLD CONSTRAINTS THAT ARE JUST OUT OF OUR CONTROL. SO WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THIS PROJECT BE EVALUATED BASED ON ITS COMPLIANCE WITH AN ADOPTED STANDARDS AND COMMITMENT TO ENHANCE SAFETY MEASURES AND THE PRACTICAL LIMITATIONS OF THE SITE. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ON THIS. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? WELL? GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. HOW ARE YOU ALL DOING? BRANDON PRINCE, 1216 IVY BROOK CIRCLE, HOMEWOOD, ALABAMA. I'M MR. KING'S ATTORNEY, AND HE CAME TO ME AND KIND OF GAVE ME THE HISTORY OF THIS PROJECT. I KNOW HE STARTED OFF WITH MULTIPLE LOTS OVER 77, WENT DOWN TO 77, AND NOW HE'S DOWN TO 30 LOTS. I BELIEVE WHEN HE PRESENTED TO P AND Z IT WAS AT 77 LOTS. AND THAT'S WHEN THIS SECTION OF THE IFC KICKED IN, STATING THAT HE NEEDED TO HAVE THE SECONDARY ACCESS BECAUSE UNDER APPENDIX D, SECTION D1071, THAT'S WHEN IT STATES THAT WHEN THERE ARE 30 MORE THAN 30 DWELLINGS, THAT'S WHEN THE SECONDARY ACCESS KICKS IN. CURRENTLY, HE HAS REVISED HIS PLANS TO BE 30 DWELLINGS. 
          EXACTLY. WHICH MEANS THAT THIS PROVISION IS TECHNICALLY NO LONGER APPLICABLE TO THIS SUBDIVISION. IN ADDITION, HE IS ADDING THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEMS, WHICH IS AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF OF SAFETY AND FIRE PREVENTION. SO AS IT RELATES TO DENIAL AND THE AND THE RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL, AGAIN, THAT WAS BASED ON PREVIOUS PLANS THAT ARE NO LONGER IN PLACE AND A SECTION THAT IS NO LONGER APPLICABLE. ADDITIONALLY, HIS ACCESS THAT HE IS UTILIZING IS A STUB STREET, WHICH INDICATES THAT THIS PROPERTY WAS INTENDED TO BE DEVELOPED FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES. OTHERWISE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A DEAD END STREET OR A HOME. THEY WOULD NOT HAVE STUBBED IT OFF. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP ALL OF THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION AND FUTURE LAND USE AS WELL. IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO COME AND DEVELOP IT, I WOULD LIKE ALL OF THAT BEING TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. BUT I THINK THE MAIN THING HERE IS THAT THE PREVIOUS RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL WAS BASED ON 77 DWELLINGS. HE HAS DRASTICALLY REDUCED THAT TO 30 DWELLINGS, AND THAT IFC CODE IS NO LONGER APPLICABLE TO HIS SUBDIVISION PLAN. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF OR IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE? SEEING NONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. JOSH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ITEMS THAT THAT THEY'VE ADDED TO IT? YES, SIR. JUST AND I'LL LET CHRIS ALSO KIND OF TAG TEAM WITH ME ON THIS. I WILL SAY CHRIS WILL PROBABLY GO INTO BETTER DETAIL ON IT. WHILE WE DO HAVE THE 2024 APPENDIX D OF THE FIRE CODE ADOPTED IN OUR ZONING REGULATIONS, THAT. APPENDIX. THE INTENT OF IT IS FOR FIRE SAFETY. HOWEVER, THERE'S STILL MULTIPLE ISSUES THAT CAN HAPPEN IN A SUBDIVISION IF A FOR INSTANCE, AN AMBULANCE CAN'T GET THROUGH. IF THERE'S A SEVERE WEATHER EVENT, IF A TORNADO COMES THROUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT, A SPRINKLER SYSTEM REALLY DOESN'T HELP AT ALL. AND THE SECOND REASON FOR OUR DENIAL ON THIS, AGAIN TO REITERATE, WAS THE 
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TRAFFIC THROUGH THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY OF KIMBERLEY. THAT REALLY WASN'T BUILT OUT FOR THAT. AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANYTHING FROM THE APPLICANT SAYING, HEY, KIMBERLY HAS BLAST OFF ON THIS, OR SAID THAT THE ROADS ARE ADEQUATE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          OKAY, JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT JOSH HAS EXPLAINED AND KIND OF JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES, SO THE APPLICANT IS CORRECT, THEIR NEW SUBDIVISION CASE IS 30 LOTS. HOWEVER, IF YOU LOOK UP TOP, IT IS TYING TO A SUBDIVISION OF 60 PLUS. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT IT'S TYING TO A LARGER SUBDIVISION THAT ALSO HAS A SINGLE ACCESS. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT AS A UNIT ONE ACCESS POINT TO THE ENTIRE SUBDIVISION, IT'S OVER 100 LOTS AS A UNIT. SO YES, THEY ARE 30. BUT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY AT BOTH PARTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS, IF I CAN, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE. FIRST OFF, THIS SUBDIVISION, IT HAS BEEN ANNEXED LEGISLATIVE. WE KNOW THAT INTO THE CITY LIMITS OF KIMBERLEY. BUT IT WAS DEVISED IN JEFFERSON COUNTY. SO ALL THE JEFFERSON COUNTY REGS AND PRIOR SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS WERE MET. THAT STUB STREET WAS LEFT AS MY ONLY ACCESS. ONLY ACCESS. 
          IT WAS STUB TREATED FOR TO BE PHASE THREE OF FRANKLIN PARK. AS WE SEE IT TODAY, ALL THE ROADS AND EVERYTHING ARE COMPLIANT BY Y'ALL'S REGULATIONS AND GUIDELINES. 
          CURB AND GUTTER, UNDERGROUND UTILITIES, EVERYTHING IS OUT THERE. THIS IS NOT THE ONLY SUBDIVISION THAT I HAVE THAT WOULD THAT WOULD HAVE THESE THESE ISSUES AND THESE PROBLEMS. IT'S CLEAR IN THE 2024 FIRE CODE THAT IF I GO DOWN TO 30 LOTS OR LESS THAT I THAT THAT SECONDARY ACCESS IS NO LONGER AN ISSUE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONLY ADDING 30 LOTS ON 70 ACRES. 
          AND I FEEL LIKE THAT IF I'M, I'M TURNED DOWN HERE TODAY, IT'S LIKE A TAKING OF MY PROPERTY. AND I KNOW WE LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE AT LEAST TWO WITH LAW DEGREES UP THERE. I'D LIKE FOR Y'ALL TO BASE THIS ON MERIT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. APPRECIATE IT. ANY COMMISSIONERS CHAIR ENTERTAIN A MOTION. HEARING? NO MOTION. COUNTY ATTORNEY. WHEN WE HAVE NO MOTION, THE THE IT FAILS FOR FOR LACK OF A MOTION. THIS PARTICULAR ITEM FAILED FOR LACK OF A MOTION. NEXT IS Z 25 0034. YASMIN CHAIRMAN YEAH, GOT MY GLASSES ON. I WANT TO REQUEST A CHANGE IN ZONING TO I ONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO ALLOW 20 WAREHOUSE UNITS. PROPERTY IS ZONED C ONE COMMERCIAL AND THIS IS OVER ON THE SHANNON WINONA ROAD. YES, SIR. YES SIR. SO THIS IS A AGAIN, IT'S A REQUEST FOR A MINI MINI STORAGE IN THE SHANNON WINONA COMMUNITY. THE. 
          IF YOU RECALL, IN THE PREVIOUS ZONING UPDATE, WE MOVED SELF STORAGE, MINI STORAGE TO THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL CATEGORY. PREVIOUSLY IT WAS ALLOWED IN COMMERCIAL AREAS, BUT DUE TO BOX TRUCKS, SOME FOLKS ACTUALLY MOVED WITH 18 WHEELERS, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY HOW MUCH THEY'VE GOT IN THEIR HOUSE. A LOT OF THE TRUCK TRAFFIC AND THE NOISE THAT CAN COME FROM THESE. WE FELT IT WOULD BE A BETTER FIT. AND THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL CATEGORY, THE COMP PLAN FOR THIS COMMUNITY WAS REALLY TRIED. WE REALLY TRIED TO DESIGNATE THIS AREA FOR MORE CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL, SIMILAR TO THE PUBLIX DEVELOPMENT THAT'S IN THE CITY OF BIRMINGHAM ACROSS THE STREET. AND FOR THAT REASON, WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE PROPOSAL IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE GOALS OF THE COMP PLAN FOR THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY. SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS CASE IS DENIAL. AND I THINK THE APPLICANT IS RIGHT. IT MAY NOT BE PRESENT. YES, SIR. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. THAT'S IT? YES, SIR. OH, I'D LIKE TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME FOR Z 25 0034. IS ANYONE SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF OR IN OPPOSITION TO THIS? SEEING NONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. HEARING NONE, THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE DIES FOR LACK OF A MOTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. Z 26 0001. THIS IS A DOLLAR 
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GENERAL THAT WANTS THEIR LOCATION IN BRADFORD ROAD, PENSARN. I WANT TO ADD A RETAIL BEER OFF PREMISE ONLY. YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. SO THIS IS JUST OUTSIDE THE PENSARN AREA. 
          DOLLAR GENERAL. THEY'RE REQUESTING A BEER AND WINE LICENSE. IF YOU'VE BEEN IN DOLLAR GENERAL, A LOT OF THEM DO SELL THAT. IT'S PRETTY PRETTY STANDARD. AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT WENT THROUGH ALL THE THE APPROPRIATE BACKGROUND CHECKS WITH THE THE STATE. SO WE DIDN'T THERE WERE NO RED FLAGS OR ANY ISSUES OR DISCREPANCIES ON OUR END WITH THIS. THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO OPEN A BEVERAGE CASE PUBLIC HEARING B 26 0001. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? YES, SIR. HELLO EVERYONE. MY NAME IS AMIR LAKHANI AND I'M THE STORE ACROSS RIGHT FROM DOLLAR GENERAL. WHAT? THE ADDRESS PLEASE. SORRY, IT'S 7718 NARROWS ROAD, PINSON, ALABAMA. OKAY, 35126. ANYHOW, I'M JUST THE STORE RIGHT ACROSS FROM DOLLAR GENERAL. AND WHEN THEY OPEN UP THE DOLLAR GENERAL, OBVIOUSLY IT AFFECTED MY BUSINESS A WHOLE LOT, YOU KNOW, WHICH WHEN THEY DID GROCERIES AND ALL THAT WHICH NORMALLY THEY DO, I AFFECTED ON THAT. RIGHT NOW THEY'RE JUST PLANNING TO PUT THE BEER. AND ONCE THEY PUT A BEER, OBVIOUSLY MY BUSINESS IS GOING TO BE LIKE A CLOSED DOWN STORE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY HURTING. AND I'M THERE SINCE LAST ALMOST. 
          THE STORE IS THERE SINCE LAST ALMOST 30 YEARS OR MORE MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW. SO THIS IS MY REQUEST. LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DON'T GET I MEAN, I CAN ONLY SAY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T GET BEER, THAT THAT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, I MIGHT BE WILLING TO STAY OVER THERE FOR LONGER. BUT RIGHT NOW THAT BUSINESS HAS BEEN AFFECTING A WHOLE LOT. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST RIGHT ACROSS LIKE FROM THE STREET LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW? SO IT'S BEEN AFFECTING ME AND MY OTHER PEOPLE LIKE TWO, THREE MILES DOWN THE ROAD. THERE'S ANOTHER STORE OVER THERE, OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S BEEN HURTING TOO, BUT I'M EXPECTING REALLY BAD BECAUSE I'M JUST RIGHT ACROSS FROM THERE. SO THAT WAS MY REQUEST TO YOU ALL UNDERSTAND? WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. DO YOU HAVE THAT LITTLE STORE RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER? YEAH. THE FLOOR IS FOUR WAY STOP SIGN. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN HURTING. IT'S BEEN HURTING LIKE IN THE GROCERY STORE. BUT I'M STILL MAKING IT RIGHT NOW. BUT IF THEY GET A BEER, IT MIGHT BE TIME FOR ME TO CLOSE THE STORE. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY BAD FOR ME, YOU KNOW, FOR MY SIDE, YOU KNOW, AND I OWN THE PROPERTY. I DON'T OWN THE LEASE. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN THERE? YOU CAN'T TO ME, I'VE BEEN THERE ALMOST LIKE 2013. SO I WOULD SAY 12 YEARS OR MORE A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW. SO IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME. I'VE BEEN THERE AND THAT STORE HAS BEEN THERE WAY, WAY MORE LONGER THAN THAT. THE OLDER LADY SHE USED TO OWN, IT'S BEEN THERE FOR MORE, MORE LONGER THAN THAT, YOU KNOW, SALE. WHAT DO YOU SALE AT YOUR STORE? SO, I MEAN, YOU WELL KNOW, BUT I'M JUST SAYING YOU SELL MORE THAN BEER. WELL, I SELL BEER, I SELL GROCERIES, I CIGARETTES, TOBACCO, STUFF LIKE THAT. WELL, THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT THAT OBVIOUSLY THE STORE IN QUESTION IS ADVERSELY IMPACTING YOUR BUSINESS. SO I JUST WANTED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT ARE YOU SELLING THAT THAT WOULD BE. YOU KNOW, I'M ONLY GIVING CLARIFICATION TO MY QUESTION. SURE, SURE. LIKE, LIKE MY SALE IS LIKE, I WOULD SAY LIKE 30 TO 40% IS THE BEER SALE, OBVIOUSLY. AND THEN YEAH, BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT, THAT TO ME THAT WOULD MAKE YOU COME HERE TODAY. EXACTLY. BEING THAT APPARENTLY BOTH OF YOU ALL ARE SELLING, YOU KNOW, GROCERY AND OTHER GOODS, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK THAT WITH THIS THAT WOULD REALLY HURT YOUR BUSINESS. EXACTLY. THAT'S WHAT MY POINT WAS. LIKE IF THEY I MEAN, FIRST THEY STARTED WITH THE GROCERY AND DOLLAR GENERAL AND ALL THAT. I STILL, I SAID, OKAY, THAT'S FINE. BUT RIGHT NOW, EVEN IF THEY GET THE BEER, THE 30, 40%, WHATEVER I JUST SAID, IT'S GOING TO AFFECT ME A WHOLE LOT TO LIKE I JUST SAID, LIKE IT MIGHT HAVE TO CLOSE THE STORE BECAUSE THERE WON'T BE ANY OPTIONS FOR ME LEFT, YOU KNOW, TO STAY OVER THERE, YOU KNOW, PUT ALL THESE EXPENSES AND ALL THAT. IF YOU'RE STILL KNOWN AS CROSTON GROCERY. YEAH, YEAH. AND DOLLAR GENERAL, THAT'S A RECENTLY BUILT STORE, RIGHT? YEAH. IT'S LIKE THEY BUILD UP IN DECEMBER OR NOVEMBER, I THINK LAST 25. I MEAN, IT'S LIKE ALMOST LIKE FIVE MONTHS NOW, 4 OR 5 MONTHS. AND IT'S BEEN AFFECTING ME, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT. AND NORMALLY THE BUSINESSES ARE SLOW ANYWAY RIGHT NOW. SO I'VE BEEN HURTING REALLY BAD AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. 
          [01:25:08]
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER? AT THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING. CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. IS KILLING THIS MY BUSINESS? ALL RIGHT, GUYS, THIS WILL BE THE THIRD ONE IN A ROW. ALL RIGHT, HERE IT IS. YOU'RE RIGHT. HEARING NO MOTION, THIS FAILS FOR LACK OF A OF A MOTION. THANK YOU. OH. 
          NEXT WE HAVE. YES. BEFORE YOU GO FURTHER, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO HIM WHAT THAT MEANS? I'M TALKING ABOUT THE GENTLEMAN THAT CAME AND SPOKE. THAT MEANS WE'RE NOT TAKING ANY ACTION ON THIS CASE. AND THEY CANNOT SELL BEER. YES. NO. DO YOU UNDERSTAND, SIR? WHAT HE JUST MENTIONED TO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF YOU CAN REPEAT IT. ABSOLUTELY. GO AHEAD, MR. PRESIDENT. OKAY. YEAH. AND THAT THAT MEANS THAT THIS ZONING APPLICATION FAILED, THE BEVERAGE APPLICATION FAILED FOR LACK OF A OF A MOTION. THAT MEANS THAT THE STATUS QUO, WHAT GOES ON NOW WILL CONTINUE TO GO ON UNTIL THEY REAPPLY. YEAH. HE STILL DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SELL BEER AT THIS TIME. WE'RE NOT APPROVING THAT. YES, SIR. JUST TO CLARIFY, THE COUNTY COMMISSION MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO THE THE ABC BOARD. SO ULTIMATELY WE'LL BE GOING OVER THEM. YES. YEAH. SO DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, SIR? YEAH. I JUST LIKE YOU SAYING. 
          SO THE ACTION THAT WE TOOK TODAY, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THEY AS IN DOLLAR GENERAL WILL NOT BE PERMITTED TO SELL BEER LAWFULLY. HOWEVER, WE ONLY SERVE AS A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ALABAMA BOARD IN TERMS OF ABC BOARD. RIGHT. SO IF THEY DECIDE TO OVERTURN WHAT WE HAVE SAID, THEN THAT'S BEYOND US. BUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS THE ACTION WE JUST MENTIONED. RIGHT. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE TWO ZONING CASE DEMOLITION CASES. THESE ARE CARRY OVER CASES, Y'ALL. YES. FIRST IS ON 530 DRAKE AVENUE. 
          35020. YES SIR. SO AS YOU STATED, SIR, THIS IS A CARRY OVER CASE FROM LAST MONTH. IT'S A BASICALLY A HOUSE THAT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS OWNED BY A CHURCH. AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ORIGINAL IMPETUS FOR US DEMOLISHING THIS STRUCTURE. YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY HAS A DAMAGED FOUNDATION, A ROOF THAT HAD COMPLETELY COLLAPSED ON IT. AND I SAY THAT LOOKING AT THE PICTURES WHICH I CAN BRING UP IF YOU NEED ME TO, AND THE WALL SOME, THE WALL IS STILL LEFT OVER. IT'S COMMENSURATE WITH A LOT OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WE'VE BROUGHT TO YOU IN THE PAST IN TERMS OF THE STRUCTURAL DAMAGE AND, YOU KNOW, AS A BLIGHTED PROPERTY. SO SINCE THEN, I BELIEVE MR. PLOMP AND MYSELF, WE'VE TRIED TO CALL THE CHURCH A FEW TIMES. WE'VE SENT THEM THE CERTIFIED LETTER, AND I BELIEVE PHIL WENT OUT THERE IN PERSON TO TRY AND CATCH SOMEBODY AT THE CHURCH TO DISCUSS ON THIS. AND ON OUR END, WE'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET IN CONTACT WITH THEM. OKAY. WE HAVE A GENTLEMAN HERE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE, SIR. STEPHEN PILOT, 1105 PORTER ROAD. I'M THE PASTOR OF THE CHURCH AS OF THIS POINT. I HAVE WITH ME, ALVIN PILOT AND CLAYTON CLEVENGER. WE HAVE NOT PHYSICALLY HAD ANY CONTACT OTHER THAN THE LETTER THAT WE WERE SENT, AND THEY HAVE OUR PHONE NUMBERS AND EVERYTHING, BUT WE WERE NOT CONTACTED AS WE KNOW, THE PICTURES THAT HE HAS WAS US IN THE PROCESS OF TEARING THAT HOUSE DOWN. WE'RE THE ONE THAT WAS TEARING THE HOUSE DOWN BECAUSE OF TERMITE AND IT COULD NOT BE REBUILT. WE GOT A LETTER IN 2004 TO TO CONTINUE TO TEAR THE HOUSE DOWN, WHICH I TALKED WITH MIKE THOMPSON. HE SAID, TAKE YOUR TIME, THERE'S NO PROBLEM. MEANTIME, WE GET ANOTHER LETTER IN AUGUST OF 24 THAT NOW THAT IT IS UNDER A CONTRACT AND THAT THEY WILL TEAR IT DOWN AND WE CAN NO LONGER DO ANYTHING ELSE. WE OBEYED THAT. AND WHAT WE DID IN THE TIME IS THEY TOLD US THE COST WOULD BE $2,300 FOR THE COUNTY TO TO TEAR IT DOWN. WE HAD GOTTEN A PRICE OF $2,600 TO TEAR IT DOWN. AND IT WAS, WELL, THE COUNTY IS DOING IT CHEAPER. WE'LL LET THEM DO IT. THEY SAID, TAKE OUR HANDS OFF OF IT. 
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ANYWAY, NOW WE GET THE LETTER OF THIS LAST YEAR. LAST YEAR, A MONTH AGO, TWO MONTHS AGO, WHERE THE COST NOW WAS GOING TO BE $12,000. NOW, AT THAT TIME, WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS MR. THOMPSON RETIRED, THEREFORE, IT KIND OF GOT DROPPED. AND THEN WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD IS THE CONTRACT WITH THE ORIGINAL $2,300. IT WAS ALSO CANCELED FOR SOME REASON. WE DON'T KNOW AT THAT POINT IF WE HAD BEEN TOLD OR SENT A LETTER LIKE WE HAVE HAVE BEEN, THEN WE COULD HAVE GOT OUR GUY TO GO AHEAD AND JUST TEAR THE BUILDING DOWN FOR $2,600. WE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. AND THEN NEXT THING WE KNOW, THE HOUSE IS TORN DOWN AND THEN WE GET A BILL FOR $12,000. THAT'S WHERE WE STAND. AND LAST MONTH THEY WAS GOING TO TAKE IT UNDER CONSIDERATION ON ON THAT COST. HOW LONG HAVE WE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS? SINCE 2024. SEEMS LIKE Y'ALL BEEN HERE BEFORE ON THIS. HAVE YOU BEEN HERE BEFORE? ALRIGHT. LAST MONTH. SO WHERE'S THE DISCONNECT? YOU KNOW, WHY DIDN'T YOU GET THE HOUSE TORE DOWN? IF YOU HAD A CONTRACT TO DO IT, WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND DO IT? BECAUSE THE GUY WE ONLY HAD THREE MONTHS FROM THAT TIME AND THE MAN THAT WAS GOING TO DO IT, I HAD TO GET ON HIS WAITING LIST. IT'S YES, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. BUT BEFORE HE COULD GET THERE, THEN THEY SAID, YOU CAN'T. WE HAVE A CONTRACT NOW AND YOU CAN NO LONGER TEAR THE HOUSE DOWN. SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME. BUT MR. THOMPSON HAD TOLD US, TAKE YOUR TIME, THERE'S NO TROUBLE. AND SO. OKAY, WE FELT LIKE WE HAD TIME FOR THIS, FOR THIS CONTRACTOR TO GET TO US. BUT BEFORE THAT HAPPENED, THEN WE WERE TOLD IT WAS IT WAS UNDER A DIFFERENT CONTRACT. DO YOU DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS FOR THAT PROPERTY? YES. WE WANT TO BUILD A PAVILION UP THERE FOR THE CHURCH. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF LAND. THERE'S A LAKE DOWN BELOW AND WE WANT TO HAVE A EVENTUALLY HAVE A PAVILION THERE. BUT WE WAS LIKE I SAID, WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF TAKING IT DOWN. OUR CHURCH IS A MATURE CHURCH. IT'S OLDER, ELDERLY PEOPLE. WE DON'T MOVE VERY FAST. AND SO BUT WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT. LIKE IN THE MEANTIME, WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS SOMEBODY GOT TRANSFERRED IN ANOTHER DEPARTMENT AND THE WHOLE THING JUST GOT DROPPED. AND EVEN THE THE CONTRACT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, BUT THEN NEXT THING WE KNOW, WE'RE FACING THIS HUGE $12,000 BILL THAT, WOW, WHAT WHAT A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2320 612,000. ALL RIGHT. BUT THE BUILDING'S GONE. YES, SIR. THE LAND IS CLEARED AND ALL THAT STUFF IS MOVED, RIGHT? YES, SIR. 
          SO IS THERE. YEAH. IS THERE A COMPROMISE THAT YOU THAT WE CAN REACH A SETTLEMENT IN THIS MANNER? I MEAN, OTHERWISE YOU GOT $20,000 WORTH OF WORK DONE. AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH YOU SAY IT WAS AN ESTIMATE OF 26, IT YOU KNOW, OUR PRICE IS PRICED WHAT IT IS. AND THAT'S, I GUESS THE AMOUNT OF THE LIEN. WHY WERE WE TOLD IT WOULD ONLY BE 23 I COMMISSIONER. YEAH. I THINK JOSH CAN ADD SOME MORE CONTEXT TO THE CONVERSATION. BUT WHAT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IS WE DID HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT WAS NOT LIVING UP TO OUR PROCESSES. AND SO WE ACTUALLY VOTED TO DO AWAY WITH THAT CONTRACT. AND WE HIRED ANOTHER CONTRACT AFTER THIS. THIS IS SUBSEQUENT TO THE ORIGINAL QUOTE IN WHICH HE'S SPEAKING OF. AND SO WHEN THEY GO AHEAD, I POINT OUT WE HAVE TO BID THIS WORKOUT, RIGHT? SO WE DID IT OUT LOW BIDDER AT ONE TIME GAVE A PRICE OF $2,300. THEY WERE NOT DOING WHAT THEY DID REQUIRED AT ALL. SO WE HAD TO TERMINATE IT. AND THEN WE REBID IT OUT. WE GOT A REALLY MORE APPROPRIATE PRICE ON ALL THE HOUSES OF ABOUT $10,000 PER HOUSE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE KIND OF BEEN GUESSING ALL THE TIME. 
          YEAH. THEN MIKE THOMPSON DID RETIRE, BUT THE CONTRACT DID GET CASTLE, SO THEY COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT FOR $2,300. AND THAT SEEMS LOW. WERE THESE PEOPLE NOTIFIED OF THE OF THE 
          [01:35:01]
CHANGE? YES, SIR. AND THEN LAST MONTH THEY CAME UP AND TOLD US THE SAME THING WE TRIED TO CALL THEM SURELY HAVE THE RIGHT PHONE NUMBER. WE CALL THE ONE ON THE WEBSITE. YEAH. AND SO HERE WE ARE AGAIN. AND WE'VE NOTIFIED THEM AND NOTIFIED THEM APPROPRIATELY. YES, SIR. AND JUST TO TO CARLA'S POINT AND DARREN'S POINT, WE AGAIN HAD ISSUES WITH THE PREVIOUS CONTRACTOR. HOWEVER, THIS STRUCTURE BASED OFF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THE DEBRIS AND THE AMOUNT OF CLEANUP WORK THAT TOOK WITH IT, IT'S IT'S ON AVERAGE WITH EVERY OTHER STRUCTURE, WE TYPICALLY AVERAGE ABOUT 10,000 TO $1100 ON JUST ABOUT EVERY PROPERTY. WE BRING TO YOU ALL. WHAT'S THE LIEN AMOUNT NOW? IT WOULD BE. $11,650. OKAY. I WAS THINKING 20,000. ALL RIGHT. THE THE LEGAL. RAMIFICATIONS IS THAT WE WILL PLACE A, A LIEN ON ON THAT PROPERTY. AND WILL WE AUCTION THE PROPERTY OR WILL WE THAT LIEN WILL FOLLOW THE PROPERTY UNTIL IT'S SOLD, AM I CORRECT? YES, YES, YES, UNTIL IT'S PAID OFF OR THEY SELL IT. AND THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO BE FOR CLEAR TITLE. THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY OFF. SO IT HAS NO EFFECT ON ON WHAT THEIR CURRENT USE IS. IF THEY WANT TO PUT A PAVILION ON IT. COULD THEY DO THAT? YES SIR. 
          YES. SO WHAT. YEAH. OVER TIME WHAT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS, IS THAT THE THE COUNTY HAS HAS DEMOLISHED YOUR, YOUR PROPERTY. OH, AND THERE'S A THERE'S A CONTROVERSY TO IT, BUT IN EFFECT, YOU STILL HAVE USE OF THAT PROPERTY UNTIL YOU DETERMINE TO SELL IT. AND WHEN YOU SELL IT, THAT LIEN WILL FOLLOW THAT SALE AND YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY THE COUNTY THAT 12TH, $11,650 PLUS INTEREST. THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD COME TO A COMPROMISE SO THAT WE COULD PAY THAT AND GET THAT OFF, BECAUSE WE BUILT THAT CHURCH DEBT FREE FOR ONE REASON, SO THAT WE CAN SUPPLY FUNDS TO MISSIONARIES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. AND WE DO THAT. WE'RE FEEDING ORPHANS, WE'RE SCHOOLING KIDS. WE'RE ALL THIS OUR MOST OF OUR MONEY GOES TO OUR MISSIONARIES. OKAY? WE DON'T LIKE TO HAVE THIS, THIS LIEN ON OUR OVER OUR HEAD. LIKE I SAID, WE DIDN'T EVEN WANT A MORTGAGE. WE HAVE WE HAVE HAD ZERO LOANS ON THIS PROPERTY. WE PAY FOR EVERYTHING AS WE GO. AND TO HAVE THIS OVER OUR HEAD IS JUST A BLACK MARK AGAINST WHAT WE STAND FOR. WE DON'T HAVE NO NONPROFIT, BUT WE COULD IF WE COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, LET'S COME UP WITH A COMPROMISE THAT WE BOTH CAN, CAN DEAL WITH AND LISTEN. LET US PAY WHAT WE OWE. SO WE DON'T HAVE NO NONPROFIT PRICE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR CHURCHES THAT WE CAN GET THEM A DISCOUNT OR SOMETHING. CHECKING WITH LEGAL NOW WE DETERMINES A PRECEDENT THAT WOULD BE SAID IF WE DID THAT. YOU UNDERSTAND. AND ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO, WE WILL DO. BUT THE WE'RE WE'RE BOUND BY THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE LAW. OKAY. AND WHETHER THERE WAS A DISCONNECT OR MISCOMMUNICATION OR WHATEVER IT WAS WE WERE TRYING TO COME UP WITH, WITH, WITH SOMETHING THAT WILL WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE. YOU ALL AGREE TO THAT TERM? NO, BECAUSE THEY DID NOT TEAR THE HOUSE DOWN. I PULLED THE HOUSE DOWN. ALL THEY DID WAS CLEANED UP AND WE SALVAGED 60% OF THE LUMBER. ALL THAT'S LEFT A LITTLE BIT OF THE ROOF AND SOME OF THE. ALRIGHT, SIR, SIR, IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME TO THE PODIUM AND GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND THAT'S FINE. BUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS REACH SOME TYPE OF A RESOLUTION OF THIS. AND. WE WERE OFFERING A PAYMENT SCHEDULE AND. YOU INTERRUPTED. SO YOU DID NOT GET TO HEAR THAT PAYMENT SCHEDULE. CAL WOULD YOU? PLENTY. THEY COULD PAY 500 BUCKS A YEAR FOR 12 YEARS OR A THOUSAND BUCKS A YEAR FOR, I'M SORRY, 1000 BUCKS A YEAR FOR 12 YEARS. YOU KNOW, WE COULD WORK ANY KIND OF PAYMENT PLAN, BUT THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THE PROPERTY. THEY ALREADY. OFFERED. THAT'S THE BIGGEST. WELL, WELL, ACTUALLY ALL THEY DID WAS CLEANED UP WHAT WAS LEFT OF THE ROOF AND SOME OF THE FOUNDATION. 
          SO THAT'S ALL WE DID RIGHT THERE. YES MA'AM. LIKE I SAID, THE, THE, THE PICTURE WE HAD 
          [01:40:05]
PRIOR THAT WAS BROUGHT TO YOU ALL ORIGINALLY FOR THE CONDEMNATION WHEN YOU DECLARED IT A PUBLIC NUISANCE THE FIRST TIME, IT WAS THAT ROOF COMPLETELY ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE GROUND, THE FOUNDATION, THE STAIRS. SO THAT'S ALL WE WE CLEARED. WAS THIS RIGHT HERE YOU'RE GIVING US THE PICTURE FOR? YES, MA'AM. THAT'S THAT'S TYPICAL OF MANY PROPERTIES. AND THAT'S $12,000. THE DUMP FEES, THE DUMP FEE TOO. AND THEY ALSO HAVE TO GO OUT, FILL IN ANY RUTS. SEE, HEY, THE NO EXCEPTION FOR CHURCHES, NON-PROFITS. NO, MA'AM. WE DON'T HAVE A LEGAL A LEGAL CAPACITY TO DO THAT. THE TEAR OUT THE FOUNDATION. JOSH. YES, SIR. OH, THE BIGGEST COST ON ALL OF THESE IS THE HAULING COSTS, THE LANDFILL FEES. AND TEARING IT DOWN TAKES ABOUT A SECOND TO TRACK THE REAL COST OF THE DUMP TRUCKS. AND SO HOW MUCH HOW MUCH CAN THEY PAY? FOR THAT NOW? ANYWAY, Y'ALL WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU IF YOU COULDN'T MAKE A PAYMENT ONE YEAR, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT THE NEXT. CAN WE AGREE TO PAY $1,000 A YEAR? IT'S LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LIKE, WE'RE GOING TO GET SCREWED EITHER WAY. 
          WE'RE GOING, WELL, WELL, WE'RE TRYING NOT TO. OKAY? WE'RE TRYING TO WORK SOMETHING OUT WITH YOU, SIR. SO JUST LOWER THAT RHETORIC. WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON SOMETHING IF Y'ALL WANT TO PAY. I DON'T CARE IF YOU PAY 500. I DON'T, YOU KNOW, LET'S WORK SOMETHING OUT AND MOVE ON. 
          WE DID. WE DID THE WORK. CAN ME AND CARL GET TOGETHER AND LET US WORK OUT SOME TERMS? ALRIGHT, MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE WE PASS THIS TO CALL IT THE CHAIR. YOU GOT A CARD? CAN WE DO THAT? YEAH WE CAN. THEY'RE GOING TO. THEY'RE GOING TO WORK IT OUT. YOU CAN WORK IT OUT RIGHT NOW. 
          YEAH. OH WE'LL HAVE TO WORK OUT A PAYMENT PLAN AND ALL THAT ABOUT IT. ALRIGHT. DO YOU NEED US TO TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL THEY FINISH WITH THEIR MEETING? NO, NO. YOU SAID THEY SHOULD PASS IT AND THEY WOULD WORK OUT. ARE WE GOING TO PASS IT? YEAH. ARE WE COMING BACK TO IT TODAY. 
          YEAH. HE'S SAYING TAKING ACTION ON IT NOW. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. WE'LL WORK OUT SOMETHING. 
          WE'LL COME BACK. OKAY. SO STILL THE CALL. NOW. HE SAID PASS IT. DID HE MEAN PASS? GO AHEAD AND GO AHEAD AND VOTE. YES, SIR. GO AHEAD AND VOTE. YEAH BUT BUT I WOULD THINK THAT WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO IS TO I WOULD SAY TO, TO, TO. WELL, WELL WELL WELL IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THEY WANT TO PROCEED FORWARD, BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO ADD A LANGUAGE THAT SAYS SUBJECT TO PAYMENT TERMS AGREED UPON BETWEEN THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND AND JEFFERSON COUNTY. I YOU DON'T JUST BLATANTLY, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST PASS SOMETHING AND WE WE ALREADY DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE PAYMENT TERMS WILL BE. WE JUST KNOW THAT IT'S IN PROCESS LEGAL. I DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARY. 
          THE LIEN IS THE, THE LIEN AMOUNT, HOW THEY GET PAID OFF OVER THE OVER THE TERM IS IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. THIS LIEN WILL HOLD UNTIL IT IS PAID OFF. SO IT WILL. IT'S JUST PUTTING. IT'S RECORDING THE LIEN. WE'RE BOUND BY THE AMOUNT OF THE LOAN. WELL, I'M WITH THAT, BUT I'M GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT APPEARS TO BE UNPRECEDENTED. I'D JUST LIKE FOR THINGS TO BE IN WRITING, BUT THAT'S I'M ONE OF FIVE. PROCESSES ADMINISTRATIVE, THE ASSESSMENT OF WHICH IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO. 
          OKAY. SO OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE WE, WE ASSESSED THE LIEN AND THEN WE DEAL WITH THE PAYMENTS, HOWEVER WE DEAL WITH ADMINISTRATIVELY. AND THEN THEY CAN, ONCE IT'S PAID OFF, THEN THEY CAN HAVE A RELEASE. THE I'M GOING TO CALL THIS QUESTION. I MOVE THE ITEM SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. THANK YOU. WE HAVE ANOTHER DEMOLITION CASE. 
          SPECIAL ASSESSMENT FOR DEMOLITION COSTS ON 613 BUTLER AVENUE. IS ANYONE HERE? FOR THIS CASE? YES, SIR. I WOULD LIKE TO. WE WANT TO TABLE THIS ONE BECAUSE WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT ON THAT. THIS ONE HAD TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKSTORY, SIR. 
          THIS ONE ON THE UNDER THE UNDER OUR OLD CONTRACT PROCESS, THE VENDOR WOULD GO OUT, LOOK AT EACH PROPERTY THAT WE HAD ON THE CONTRACT TO BID IT OUT. THEN THEY WOULD COME UP WITH A PRICE. WE WOULD ACCEPT THE LOWEST QUALIFIED BID. WE DID THAT UNDER THE OLD PROCESS. 
          SOMETIME BETWEEN WHEN THAT BID WAS ACCEPTED, THE THE APPLICANT, I'M SORRY, THE THE BUTLER 
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AVENUE SITE, THAT OWNER KNOCKED THE HOUSE DOWN BUT THEN MOVED ALL THE DEBRIS, THE DIRT, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT TO THE ROAD. SO THEY NEVER HAULED IT OFF. SO WE'RE, WE'RE STILL KIND OF WORKING THROUGH THAT. I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE THAT. THIS PROBABLY NEEDS AN ADJUSTMENT OF SOME TYPE. IF I HAD TO LOOK. YEAH. OKAY. WHAT IS THIS LIEN AMOUNT THAT ONE IS. 
          YES, SIR. $10,750. YEAH. WE NEED TO LET'S LET'S LET'S DON'T PASS THIS BY THROUGH AFFIRMATION. THAT'S LET'S DELAY THE VOTE ON THIS FOR 30 DAYS. HOW ABOUT THAT? YES, SIR. WE CAN DO THAT. AND JUST TO ADD ONE MORE NOTE TO THAT, WE HAVE MET WITH THE APPLICANT. I KEEP SAYING APPLICANT. I'M SORRY, THE PROPERTY OWNER HERE AT THIS SITE. AND THEY THEY DID BRING US THEIR PICTURES AND EVERYTHING. AND WE'RE TRYING TO KIND OF FLESH THAT OUT WITH THEM. SO THEY'VE, THEY'VE KNOCKED IT DOWN AND BROUGHT IT TO THE ROAD. YES SIR. AND SO NOW WE'RE JUST HAULING AND. YES, SIR. IS IT GONE? YES SIR. IT IS GONE. AND OUR, OUR CONTRACTOR DID GO IN AND FILL IN THE HOLES AND EXCAVATE. THE ISSUE WE RAN INTO WITH THIS PROPERTY WAS THAT OUR CONTRACTOR AT THE TIME WENT OUT AND BIDDED THE PROPERTY WHEN IT WAS INTACT. 
          AND THEN BETWEEN WHEN THE BID WAS WON, IT GOT KNOCKED DOWN. BUT THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T DO ANY OF THE PERMITTING OR ANY OF THE OTHER HALF. JOE, YOU DELAY THIS ACTION FOR 30 DAYS. YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH THAT. I HAVE A MOTION FOR DELAY ACTION 30 DAYS IN A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY 
          [VIII. RESOLUTIONS 1 - 59]
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NO. COMMISSIONER, YOU HAVE RESOLUTIONS ONE THROUGH 59. WE HAVE A COUPLE THAT WE WANT TO PULL FOR SEPARATE CONSIDERATION. ONE IS ITEM NUMBER SIX AND THE OTHER IS ITEM NUMBER 27. I DON'T REALLY HAVE TO PULL SIX. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT. MAKE A STATEMENT. OKAY? OKAY. ON ITEM SIX, I DIDN'T YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE TO PULL IT. I WANTED TO ASK AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ENFORCE THE COUNTY ADMIN ORDER TO USE OUR LOCAL SUPPLIER IF POSSIBLE, PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT. IF WE CAN DO THAT. YES. YEAH. 
          THIS IS THE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR ESP AND THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH A QUALIFICATION PROCESS. THEY THEY'RE WELL EMBEDDED IN THEIR PROCESS, BUT IT'S VERY TECHNICALLY COMPLEX. AND SO THEY HAVE DONE THAT WITH THE MINORITY. OH OKAY. EVALUATION PROCESS AND SELECTED THE PROFESSIONAL SURVEY. I THINK HER ASK IS IS IS THERE ANY MINORITY CONTRACTORS INVOLVED AT ALL TO INCLUDE TO INCLUDE? I WANT TO SAY ABOUT 30% OF THAT UNDER THAT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES GOES THROUGH. INDIAN CONTRACTOR A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THAT CONTRACT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT IS THIS. THE TOTAL COLLECTION SYSTEM. YEAH. THIS IS FOR MANAGING THE ENTIRE CAPITAL PROGRAM. A LOT OF DESIGN ON THE COLLECTION SYSTEM, ESPECIALLY THE REHAB PART OF IT. AND THAT'S OVER THREE YEARS AS WELL. SO IT'S GOT THE NUMBER OF THE ACTUAL CAPITAL DOLLARS, OVER 100 PROJECTS, 180,000. 
          YEAH. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S FOR THREE YEARS. IT'S A BIG ONE. MR. PRESIDENT. ALSO SEPARATE CONSIDERATION. ITEM NUMBER 40. SUPPORT THE ITEM, BUT I JUST NEED TO ABSTAIN ON THAT. 
          ALRIGHT, SO THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ONE THROUGH THE AMOUNT ONE THROUGH 59. WHAT IS THAT ONE THROUGH 59? WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 27 AND 48. HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? WE'RE GOOD. 27 IS A RESOLUTION TO DENY THE PROPERTY DAMAGE CLAIM OF FRIDA HILL. I HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT, AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SEPARATE VOTE ON THAT ONE. ITEM NUMBER 27 RESOLUTION TO DENY PROPERTY DAMAGE. YES, I ITEM 27. THANK. 
          OKAY. ROLL CALL. VOTE, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER. YES. COMMISSIONER. KNIGHT. HIGH. COMMISSIONER. YES. 
          COMMISSIONER. YES. COMMISSIONER. NAY. NOW. ITEM NUMBER 4040. THAT'S. THAT WAS ONE YEAR, AFTER ALL. OKAY. MOOD ITEM SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN JEFFERSON COUNTY AND THE CITY OF BIRMINGHAM TO PAY PORTION OF EVERGLADES ROAD, 
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LOCATED IN THE CITY OF BIRMINGHAM. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. DO WE NEED SEPARATE? YES. OH. ROLL CALL. VOTE, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER. YES, COMMISSIONER. HIGH COMMISSIONER. 
          ABSTAIN. COMMISSIONER. YES. COMMISSIONER. YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THIS ESTEEMED BODY? MOTION TO RECESS. IT'S COLD IN HERE. ALL RIGHT. 
          ANYTHING, CAL? NO, SIR. JUST TO SAY WE HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION. I THINK THE CHURCH IS IN A MUCH BETTER PLACE NOW, SO APPRECIATE Y'ALL. WHO DISTRICT. BEFORE Y'ALL TAKE OFF, WE GOTTA GET A PICTURE WITH CATHY, WHO GOT A 30 YEAR PM. SHE TOOK OFF TOO EARLY. AND OKAY, THAT THAT'LL BE FINE. WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECESS THIS MEETING UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
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