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GOOD MORNING. OKAY. IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A GOOD GROUP HERE TODAY. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO BEGIN WITH THE WORD OF PRAYER. AND I'D LIKE TO. DANIELLE TO LEAVE, PLEASE. OKAY. I'M PRAYING AFTER I. DEAR LORD, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS DAY. THANK YOU, FATHER, FOR THE GOVERNMENT THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US. FATHER, I PRAY THAT YOU GIVE THEM WISDOM AND UNITY AS THEY DIRECT OUR COUNTY IN THE WAY THAT WE SHOULD GO. FATHER, I PRAY FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, LORD, THAT THEY WOULD BE BLESSED. LORD, I PRAY FOR FAVOR IN THE BUSINESS THAT WE DO FOR THE COUNTY. LORD, I PRAY FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS. LORD, YOU'VE BEEN SO GOOD TO US AND WE JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR BLESSINGS. BLESS THIS MEETING. GIVE THEM WISDOM. IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU.

[PUBLIC WORKS, COMMUNITY SERVICES & INTER - GOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS COMMITTEE]

BEGIN WITH DISTRICT ONE. YES, SIR. PUBLIC WORKS, COMMUNITY SERVICES AND INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS. WE HAVE NO ITEMS ON THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION, ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, GENERAL RETIREMENT SYSTEM, HUMAN RESOURCES COMPLIANCE OFFICE. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO ON DOWN TO TWO ITEMS OF DISTRICT BUSINESS. I BELIEVE YOUR TWO ITEMS THE DISTRICT BUSINESS. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED. CAN I GET A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THAT IS MY REPORT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE SUSPENDING PAY FOR ALL OF THESE OTHER ONES BECAUSE NOTHING'S GOING WRONG. SURE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MR. DISTRICT TWO IS NOT HERE. I JUST WANT TO SLIP ON

[ADMINISTRATIVE, & INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE]

OVER TO COMMISSIONER DISTRICT THREE. HE'S A PRETTY GOOD FELLOW. ADMINISTRATIVE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE. ROADS AND TRANSPORTATION. WE HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN ITEMS IN OUR ROADS AND TRANS. IS THERE ANY THAT A PARTICULAR COMMISSIONER LIKE FOR SEPARATE CONSIDERATION? I GOT A QUESTION ON NUMBER FOUR. COME ON. GO AHEAD JOE. I JUST I'M JUST WHO KNOWS ABOUT THIS. I'M HERE FOR ROADS AND TRANSPORTATION. YEAH. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. HOW YOU DOING, SIR? VERY WELL, THANK YOU. TELL ME ABOUT THIS MORRIS CEMETERY PROPERTY AGREEMENT. THAT WHAT? CUTTING HAY. YES, SIR. THAT'S RIGHT. THIS IS BASICALLY A RENEWAL OF AN EXISTING AGREEMENT THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE SINCE THE 90S. IT'S ABOUT 34 ACRES IN TOTAL, WITH 14 ACRES THAT'S USED FOR HARVESTING HAY. OKAY, THAT WAS MY QUESTION. I'LL MOVE ONE THROUGH SEVEN. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. WE HAVE DISPOSAL OF SOME SURPLUS COUNTY VEHICLES. WE HAVE COUNTY ATTORNEY. WE HAVE THE MINUTES FROM THE COMMISSION MEETINGS. COUNTY MANAGER WE HAVE THE AMENDMENT TO THE INCENTIVES OF A, A ECC FOR ALABAMA FARM CENTER. WELL, I MOVE ONE ITEM ONE AND THEN ITEM ONE AND THEN ITEM ONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. WHO WAS THE SECOND? WHO WAS THE SECOND? I'LL SECOND. I SECOND, ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE DISTRICT THREE. WE HAVE OTHER BUSINESS. WE HAVE AN ALS AWARENESS MONTH. MOVE ITEMS ONE AND TWO. CAN WE GET BACK TO ALASKA? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

[FINANCE, JUDICIAL, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT & DEVELOPMENT AND GENERAL SERVICES COMMITTEE]

AYE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COMMISSIONER. LOVE. FINANCE. UNUSUAL DEMANDS, MISS DIXON.

GOOD MORNING. COMMISSIONERS. WE HAVE SIX ITEMS. OUR UNUSUAL DEMAND REPORT. OUR INCUMBENTS REPORT. PURCHASING EXCEPTION REPORT AND PURCHASING AGENDA REPORT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE ITEMS? DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED. SECOND. MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. UNDER BUDGET MANAGEMENT OFFICE, WE HAVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT IS APPROVED BY THE ALABAMA DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE. BOARD OF EQUALIZATION IS ADDING AN AI COMPONENT TO THE D READING. AND THIS IS TO FUND THAT CONTRACT WHICH WILL WORK ITS WAY THROUGH THE SYSTEM.

DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE ITEMS IN A SECOND? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. WE ALSO HAVE MULTIPLE STAFF DEVELOPMENT, INDIVIDUAL STAFF DEVELOPMENT AND INFORMATION ITEMS UNDER BMO. DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOVE ITEMS. I HAVE A MOTION SECOND. ALL IN

[DEVELOPMENT SERVICES]

FAVOR? AYE. AYE. THANK YOU. DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES. MR. JOHNSON. Z26OO0007. ALL RIGHT.

GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. OUR FIRST ZONING CASE IS LOCATED IN FOREST HILL AREA, AND IT IS FOR 27 LOTS. OFF OF CHERRY AVENUE IS THE FORMER SCHOOL BOARD PROPERTY.

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ORIGINALLY, THE APPLICANT HAD REQUESTED TO GO TO R SIX, WHICH IS THE MORE NARROWER LOTS ON.

KIND OF SHOCKING THE SOUTH SEEING COMMUNITIES LIKE DOCENA, EDGEWATER, PLACES LIKE THAT.

OUR PLANNING COMMISSION CONCURRED WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO MODIFY THE REQUEST FROM R SIX TO R TWO TO ALLOW FOR 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THE DENSITY IN THE AREA. BUT OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS, ALONG WITH WAS APPROVAL TO R2 AND R6. QUESTION FOR YOU. YES, MA'AM. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD SO MANY THINGS THAT WENT ON THIS PROPERTY THAT WE DIDN'T APPROVE. WHAT IS THE COMMUNITY SAYING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT? I THINK MOST OF THE OPPOSITION AT PNC WAS FOR THE R SIX ZONING, WHICH WAS, YOU KNOW, THE MORE DENSE DEVELOPMENT. AND ONCE WE I DON'T THINK WE HAD ANY REAL PUSHBACK ON GOING TO R2 THAT WE THAT WE HEARD WHAT DID IT. WELL, I KNOW THAT MR. BROWN IS ON THE ZONING. YES, MA'AM. SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE, WHAT WAS THE POSITION OF AT LEAST HIM OR SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS? I MEAN, HOW HOW WAS IT? WERE THEY FAVORABLE? YES, MA'AM. THE VOTE FOR THE VOTE FOR APPROVAL WAS EVENT. OH, OKAY. WELL, THEN THAT'S THE END OF THAT. OKAY.

YES, MA'AM. HE WAS PRESENT THERE, SO THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? AND R2 ZONING IS A REZONE FROM R2 IN LIEU OF THE REQUESTED R6. WHAT IS R6, PLEASE? SHOTGUN. YES. THAT'S RIGHT. SHOTGUN. ARE YOU SAYING 5500FTā– !S? YEAH. SO. OKAY. OKAY, OKAY. BECAUSE WHEN YOU SAID SHOTGUN UP, WHEN I THINK OF SHOTGUN, IT'S NOT BIG. IT'S NOT. IT'S TINY. THAT'S RIGHT. YES, MA'AM. THOSE ARE THE MORE NARROWER LOTS. THE ONLY PLACE WE HAVE R6 IN WITH SOME OF THE OLDER MINING COMMUNITIES THAT NEEDED SOME HOUSING STABILIZATION. AND SO. FOREST BEING ONE OF THOSE COMMUNITIES, WE DON'T THINK IT'S CONSISTENT. YEAH, BUT. WELL, OKAY. BUT I GUESS HERE'S MY POINT. BUT WHAT THE MITCHELL'S ARE PROPOSING TO DO, YOU THINK IS COMPLEMENTARY TO THE EXISTING PROPERTIES THAT ARE THERE. THE COMMUNITY BELIEVES THAT, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT. IT'LL BRING SOME ROOFTOPS TO THE AREA, SOME SOME NEW HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT AS LONG AS IN TERMS OF COMPS OR COMPARABLES. YES, MA'AM. AS LONG AS IT COMPLEMENTS THE COMMUNITY, THEN FINE. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I ASKED ALL THE QUESTIONS. YES, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY, HONEY. ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOVE THE ITEM. MOTION SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. Z 260008. ALL RIGHT. THIS NEXT REQUEST IS JUST FOR. IT'S REALLY A COMPLIANCE CASE FOR A INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS GOT A PLUMBING SHOP. HE'S GOT PLUMBING SHOP. HE IS CURRENTLY ZONED A-1 AND HE'S WANTING TO GO TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. SO THAT HE CAN CONTINUE PLUMBING OPERATIONS. WE DID NOT HAVE ANY OPPOSITION AT EMC FOR THIS CASE, AND WE GOT A PICTURE HERE OF THE EXISTING BUILDING. JUST OUTSIDE THE EMPIRE AREA. I MOVED SECOND MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. Z 260009. YES, SIR. AND LASTLY WE HAVE A REQUEST OUTSIDE OF OR I'M SORRY, ON HIGHLAND AVENUE IN BIRMINGHAM. THIS ONE IN BIRMINGHAM. I'M SORRY. BIRMINGHAM ZIP CODE. THIS ONE IS FOR A REZONING TO R-6 TO INSTITUTIONAL TO FOR A CHURCH. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY OPPOSITION TO THIS. I MOVE IT. SECOND. MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL RIGHT. THEN WE HAVE 49 RESOLUTIONS FOR DEMOLITION. WE GOT NUMBER EIGHT THROUGH 20. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR WANT TO SINGLE ONE OUT FOR SPECIAL CONSIDERATION. FOUR THROUGH TWO AND ONE. FOURTH THROUGH 21. YOU SAID EIGHT. WELL, I'M ON DRUGS. OKAY. OVERDOSE. I MOVE, I MOVE WITH WHATEVER. 1421140, TYLENOL. OKAY. FOUR THROUGH 21 ITEMS. FOUR THROUGH 21 I HAVE A MOTION.

[GENERAL SERVICES]

SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. GENERAL SERVICES. ARE WE ON? COMMISSIONERS. GOOD MORNING. YES. GOOD MORNING. GENERAL SERVICES HAS TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THIS MORNING. NUMBER ONE IS FOR ALABAMA POWER. THIS IS FOR ADDITIONAL LIGHTING AT THE FLEET LOCATION. AND ITEM NUMBER TWO IS FIRE ALARM MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR. ADDITIONAL LIGHTING.

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I MOVE A MOTION SECOND. A SECOND ON ITEM 22. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AND I HAVE 12345. GRANT. I'LL MOVE A MOTION SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. THANK YOU.

THAT ENDS MY REPORT. I'M GOING TO DO THE COMMISSIONER REPORT. YEAH, THAT'S RATHER LENGTHY, BUT I'LL SECOND WHATEVER. I SECOND THE MOTION. WE DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO IT. THERE YOU GO. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT DAY IT IS. ALL RIGHT. ARE WE GOING TO DO TWO? YEAH. WE'RE GOING TO DO TWO. GO AHEAD. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU NEED TO SAY TO WARRANT, SIR? NO. ALL RIGHT.

ITEM THREE. WE HAVE FOR SUBMISSION TODAY. ITEMS ONE, TWO AND THREE. FOUR AND FIVE UNDER COMMUNITY SERVICES. ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS? GOT PLENTY OF ANSWERS HERE. SO WE'RE GOOD. WHAT AGENDA ARE YOU DOING, COMMISSIONER? I'M LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING, MIKE? YOU TURNED IT OVER TO ME. ARE YOU ON TYLENOL TWO, SIR? ALL RIGHT. WE

[Additional Item]

HAVE COMMISSIONER IN DISTRICT TWO LEFT. COMMISSIONER TYSON BE HERE TODAY. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND HEALTH SERVICES COMMITTEE. THERE ARE TWO ITEMS OF NEW BUSINESS THAT SHE. THAT SHE WANTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PASS AROUND THAT YOU LOOK AT THAT WHILE I GO OVER THIS OTHER.

YOU HAVE NO ITEMS, NO ITEMS FOR THE CORNER. YOU HAVE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES. YOU HAVE BRIDGES OF HASTINGS. YOU HAVE PROGRAMABLE AGREEMENT AMENDMENT FOR THE ALABAMA STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE. DOC W AND THEN YOU HAVE THE BIRMINGHAM PORT STORM SHELTER. YEP. BURKE, YOU'LL DO THIS? YES, SIR, I CAN. COME ON. YOU OWN THE ROAD. I DON'T WANT TO TALK. YEAH, I WAS ON A ROAD. LET'S SEE IF THEY'RE GOING TO SAY ANYTHING TO YOU. I'M NOT. WE DO HAVE FIVE ITEMS. THE FIRST IS FOR PERMANENT FINANCING FOR BRIDGES AT HASTINGS. THAT'S A 56 RENTAL UNITS FOR A COMMUNITY OUT INTENSIVE THROUGH OUR HOME PROGRAM. THE SECOND IS A PROGRAMMATIC AGREEMENT. THIS AGREEMENT HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR A WHILE. THEY ARE GOING TO CHANGE IT TO WHAT WE RENEW IT ANNUALLY SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO ASK FOR CONCURRENCE FROM THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION TO DO CERTAIN PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE DO OUR ROAD PAVING PROJECTS. THE THIRD IS FOR THE BOURBON COURT STORM SHELTER, WHERE THE CONTRACT WILL BE GIVEN TO PERFORMING TO CONSTRUCT THAT. FOURTH IS A EXTENSION OF OUR AGREEMENT FOR OUR HOUSING, REHAB, PLUMBING SERVICES, AND THE FIFTH IS OUR COMMUNITY GRANT FOR THE TOWN OF SILVER SPRINGS. TO SAY THAT AGAIN ABOUT THE PROGRAM AGREEMENT ADDENDUM FOR ALABAMA STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION. SO WHEN WE DO ANY OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, WE HAVE TO GET CONCURRENCE FROM THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION. THEY HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE TO WHERE IF WE'RE DOING A PROJECT THAT WE NORMALLY DO, FOR EXAMPLE, ANY OF OUR ROAD PAVING PROJECTS, THEY DO NOT. THEY SAID THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TO GET CONCURRENCE FROM THEM SINCE WE'RE NOT CONSTRUCTING A NEW ROAD, WE'RE JUST REPAVING IT. AND SO IT WILL SAVE US TIME ON THE FRONT END, BECAUSE USUALLY WE HAVE TO WAIT 30 DAYS FOR THEM TO GET CONCURRENCE.

ENTERTAIN A MOTION ONE TWO, FIVE. I MOVE SECOND, BUT I DID HAVE A QUESTION TO QUESTION.

YES, MA'AM. OKAY. AND THIS VERY WELL MAY NOT EVEN BE UNDER THIS PART OF THE AGENDA. THERE WAS A STRUCTURE THAT BURNED DOWN. SPEAKING OF THE STORM SHELTER. BUT THAT THAT RAISES A QUESTION ABOUT THE MINOR FIRE DISTRICT. MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS NOT THE APPROPRIATE TIME. THEN WE CAN

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MOVE THESE ITEMS. BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I SPEAK ON THAT, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A STORM SHELTER, BECAUSE WE HAVE NO CONNECTION TO, YOU KNOW, DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PERSONNEL FOR THE FIRE DISTRICT. BUT THE FIRE DISTRICT, THOSE WHO LIVE OVER IN DOCENA AND EDGEWATER, THEY ARE PAYING FIRE DUES. SO IF THIS IS NOT THE TIME, WE NEED TO BRING IT UP AT SOME POINT. I DO WANT TO BRING THAT UP THIS MORNING. I HAVE A VERY STRONG CONCERN ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE STRUCTURE WAS BURNED TO THE GROUND, AND APPARENTLY BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF OF IMMEDIATE SERVICE IN THAT AREA, ALTHOUGH THEY PAY FIRE DUES, THEY DIDN'T SHOW UP WHO DID UNTIL AFTER THE FACT. THIS WAS IN DOCENA WHO DIDN'T SHOW UP AS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. MY UNDERSTANDING SHOWED UP AFTER THE FACT. WHAT PART WAS MINOR FIRE DISTRICT AND MY UNDERSTANDING, I THINK THEY'RE HAVING SOME PERSONNEL ISSUES, BUT AS OFTEN AS I CAN BRING THIS UP AND I SAID IT LAST TIME WE WERE TOGETHER IN BESSEMER, THAT THAT'S THAT'S CONCERNING BECAUSE THOSE FOLKS OUT THERE TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THEY HAD A MEETING ABOUT TWO AND A HALF WEEKS AGO, AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THEIR CONCERN ABOUT PAYING FIRE DUES, BUT NOT ADEQUATELY RECEIVING FIRE SERVICE. THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF A DIFFERENT ENTITY. I KNOW, BUT WHEN WHENEVER WE NEED TO BRING THIS UP, I WHATEVER THAT NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE, I'LL AGREE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE IN ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE, BUT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT COUNTY MANAGER, IF YOU CAN HELP ME TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH THAT FIRE DISTRICT, THEY GOT TO GET SOME RELIEF. OKAY. BUT RIGHT NOW WE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND, RIGHT? YEAH, WE GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND. SAY HI. HI. ALRIGHT. AND I'LL GET WITH YOU OFFLINE AND TALK. BUT THERE'S MUCH MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH. LET US KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO BECOMES OF IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT TOOK US TO 125 DIDN'T IT? YES. AGREEMENT. NOW WE HAVE TO GO DOWN TO THE SHERIFF. ONE. YES, SIR. GOOD MORNING. A BUNCH OF STUFF ON THE AGENDA TODAY, SOME OF WHICH I KNOW SOME SOME THINGS ABOUT. SO THAT Y'ALL SOME OF THE STUFF. THAT'S RIGHT.

YOU PROBABLY KNOW THAT THE CITY OF TRUSSVILLE STOPPED LETTING OTHER PEOPLE COME INTO THEIR JAIL. SO IRONDALE WAS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING FOR SOMEWHERE TO PUT THEIR INMATES. SO NUMBER ONE IS AN AGREEMENT FOR US TO HAVE IRONDALE INMATES COME TO OUR JAIL. NUMBER TWO IS THE IS THE YEARLY ALLOTMENT FOR INDIGENT MEDICAL CARE TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THAT'S ALL THE MONEY WE USED TO PAY. NOT NOT THE INTERNAL WORK THAT WE DO IN THE JAIL, BUT THE THINGS I DON'T FOLKS, GOING TO UAB NUMBER THREE IS GOOD NEWS. WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET A NICE LITTLE $75,000 GRANT TO HELP WITH THE SUBSTANCE ABUSE SUBSTANCE USE TREATMENT IN THE JAIL, AND JUST NEED THE COMMISSIONER TO COMMISSIONER STEVENS TO EXECUTE SOME DOCUMENTS FOR US ON THAT. THE OTHERS THERE'S. WELL, I WON'T YOU KNOW, I'LL I'LL KEEP TALKING TO YOU, BUT THE REST OF THEM ARE FAIRLY SIMPLE. THE LITTLE CHANGE TO THE DEPUTY SHERIFF BONDS. THE NEXT ONE IS THE PEREGRINE SYSTEM. PEREGRINE IS OUR NEW LAW ENFORCEMENT TOOL THAT WE'RE USING IN THE MAC CENTER NOW. IT'S A REALLY, REALLY COOL THING. AND THIS IS SOME CHANGES TO THAT CONTRACT. LET'S SEE. THE LAUNDRY SERVICE CONTRACT IS NUMBER SIX CONTRACT FOR BUILDING THAT REALLY NICE NEW BUILDING THAT WE'RE BUILDING IS NUMBER SEVEN. AND THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THE FUNDING ON THAT. AND THEN THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR A COMPANY TO HELP US WITH PRE-EMPLOYMENT PSYCHOLOGICAL SCREENING FOR OUR DEPUTIES IS NUMBER EIGHT. SO SORRY. MR. SOMEBODY, A QUESTION ABOUT OH GO AHEAD. NO, SIR. YOU GO AHEAD.

ITEM SEVEN. YOU KNOW, THERE WAS AN OPENING OUT THERE A YEAR OR SO AGO, AND I WENT OUT. THERE WAS A BUILDING TO THE LEFT THAT I UNDERSTOOD WAS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF ACADEMY EVIDENCE.

THAT'S THE BUILDING. THAT'S THE ONE. AND IT'S A GOOD AMOUNT OF MONEY. AND I'M ASKING YOU, IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE SANCTITY OF THE RECORDS THAT GO IN THERE? AND DEFINITELY. SO IT NEEDS TO BE A HIGH SECURITY BUILDING, OF COURSE, BECAUSE WE WHAT WE HAVE IN THERE IS EVIDENCE FOR MANY, MANY, MANY CRIMINAL CASES. WE'RE ACTUALLY COMBINING THE BESSEMER EVIDENCE ROOM. AND THE BIRMINGHAM EVIDENCE ROOM INTO ONE EVIDENCE ROOM. AND THE EVIDENCE ROOM IS. NOW IF YOU GO INTO THEM, THEY'RE REALLY. IT'S TIGHT. SPACE IS REALLY TIGHT IN THOSE. AND THIS IS GOING TO BE.

TELL ME MORE ABOUT THIS THAN. YEAH, IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY NICE, VERY SECURE FACILITY FOR OUR EVIDENCE. DOES IT REQUIRE 24 HOUR SURVEILLANCE? AND WHO WILL GO IN THE PLACE THAT YOU VACATED IN BIRMINGHAM. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE WE NEED TO MOVE SOME SOME OF OUR FOLKS HERE IN OTHER SOME OF OUR CRIMINAL DIVISION FOLKS ARE GOING TO MOVE INTO THEIR. IS THAT IS THAT AMOUNT WHAT WE AGREED TO IS THAT FULLY FUNDED BY US, OR IS THE SHERIFF GOT ANY SKIN IN

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THAT ONE TOO? I DON'T KNOW, COMMISSIONER. I CAN FIND OUT FOR YOU. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT CALL. YOU MAY KNOW THAT I DON'T KNOW THE AMOUNT OF THE CONTRACT, BUT THAT SEEMS HIGH.

WE DID FIVE LAST YEAR AND I THINK FIVE THIS YEAR. WE WOULD PRETTY CLOSE. THAT'S 10.5.

QUESTION I HAVE ONE. SURE. IS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COMBINING THE EVIDENCE FROM CAL AND I. WE TOURED THE EVIDENCE ROOM DOWN IN LAST WEEK, A WEEK BEFORE LAST WEEK, BEFORE LAST.

IT WAS IN GOOD SHAPE, VERY WELL ORGANIZED. NOW IT HANDLES THE EVIDENCE FROM A DIFFERENT CIRCUIT. RIGHT. ARE YOU GOING TO REACH ANYTHING, ANY PROBLEMS BY HAVING THAT EVIDENCE STORED IN A DIFFERENT IN A DIFFERENT CIRCUIT AWAY FROM WHERE IT WOULD BE NEEDED? YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW IT'S ACROSS THE STREET WHERE WHERE IT WILL BE ADJUDICATED THE SAME WAY HERE.

SO YEAH, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE TRANSPORTED. EVIDENCE FOR SURE IS THAT I'M NOT SURE THEY MAY BE PUTTING UP A PRETTY CONCRETE WALL DIVIDER TO SEPARATE THE TWO, WHERE THEY GOT TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT SYSTEMS AND THEY WON'T BE NECESSARILY MIXING IT. I THINK I REMEMBER THAT, BUT THAT IS IF THEY COULD AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, STORE THE LOAN, YOU KNOW, STUFF THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED, BUT THEY JUST HAVE TO KEEP FOR A LONG TIME GUNS AND THAT KIND OF THING. THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE. EFFICIENT. WELL, I, I'LL, I'LL MAKE SURE IT'S LEGALLY, I'M LEGALLY DONE. OUR SUPREME COURT JUSTICE, FORMER SUPREME COURT YOU'RE LOOKING SAYING YEAH, IT'S LEGAL. I WOULD I WOULD THINK SO. I WOULD THINK, YOU KNOW AS LONG AS YOU GOT CHAIN OF CUSTODY I THINK EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE FINE. IT JUST ADDS AN EXTRA STEP OR TWO IN THE CHAIN. AND I KNOW THE NEW NEW SYSTEM WILL HAVE THE THE NEWEST SOFTWARE FOR RECORDING INCOMING EVIDENCE, LOGGING IT, TRACKING IT. THAT'S ONE THING THEY'RE MISSING THAT BOTH FACILITIES NOW. SO THAT'LL HELP KEEP US SEPARATED AS WELL. AND I KNOW THE ONE THAT HERE IN THE OFFICE IS IN DIRE NEED THERE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU ALL CAN PURGE? I KNOW IT'S LIKE, OH NO, WE CAN'T KEEP IT. Y'ALL KEEP CRAP FOREVER. IT'S TOUGH. YEAH. I MEAN, THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS ARE WE HAVE TO KEEP THINGS FOR A LONG TIME, ESPECIALLY GUNS, YOU KNOW. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S BEING REALLY LOOKED AT CLOSELY. I'M NOT GOING TO LOOK AT IT, COMMISSIONER. I'M NOT SURE. BUT BUT I YOU KNOW THAT'S THERE. BUT I MEAN I MEAN IT IS WHAT IT IS AND IT IS NEEDED. IT DOES ADD A CHAIN OF CUSTODY AS FAR AS GETTING THE EVIDENCE FROM A BACK TO BE. YES. BUT WE'RE DOWN THIS ROAD. SO YEAH. AND I WILL SAY TOO, WE HAVE ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING IS WORKING WITH THE FOLKS ON PROTECTION FROM ABUSE ORDERS.

WHEN SOMEONE HAS TO TURN IN THEIR GUNS, WE HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME FINDING PLACE FOR THOSE GUNS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO DO TURN THEM IN ON PFAS. AND, AND THAT'S EVIDENCE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE FOR SOMETIMES IN THE SHORT TERM, SOMETIMES IT'S LONG TERM, SOMETIMES THE FOLKS NEVER COME AND ASK FOR THEM BACK. SOMETIMES THEY JUST WILL KEEP THEM FOR TWO WEEKS. AND THEN THE PFA GOES AWAY AND WE GIVE THEM SEEMED LIKE THEY TURN IT IN LATE, YOU KNOW? BUT DON'T BE AN INDIAN GIVER, YOU KNOW, COLLOQUIALLY. IT SEEMS LIKE THEY CAN DO A BETTER JOB THAN IN THE THE MATERIAL TO ME, BUT I UNDERSTAND. I'LL TAKE THAT MESSAGE BACK. NO PROBLEM. ALL RIGHT. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS THE. THE SHERIFF'S BONDS. YES. IS THIS SOMETHING NEW OR IS THIS. NO, IT'S A CONTINUATION OF A LONG TERM CONTRACT. NOW, THE CITY OF TRUSSVILLE HAS NOT TAKEN I KNOW TRUSSVILLE REDOING THEIR FACILITIES OUT THERE. IS THIS A TEMPORARY IS IT TEMPORARY? I WAS THINKING THAT THE NEW MAYOR SAID THEY WEREN'T TAKING ANYBODY ELSE. I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. YOU KNOW, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT CITY OF TRUSSVILLE SAID, WE'RE NOT TAKING ANYBODY ELSE'S INMATES ANYMORE. IT MEANT LEEDS HAD TO FIND SOMEWHERE FOR THEIRS. IRONDALE HAD TO FIND SOMEWHERE FOR THEIRS. I THINK LEEDS IS USING SOMEWHERE IN SAINT CLAIR COUNTY, MAYBE USING SAINT CLAIR COUNTY JAIL AND USING OUR JAIL. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.

I KNOW THAT SAYS FOR GOD, FOR NOT ONLY BUT THE COUNTY COMMISSION IS IN CHARGE OF THE OF THE FACILITY. RIGHT. AND WE NEED WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. AND I AND I WOULD ADVISE THE SHERIFF TO HOLD OFF ON THAT UNTIL THE COUNTY COMMISSION COULD COULD CHECK INTO THAT AND SEE ABOUT THE SPACE. HOW MANY PRISONERS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? IT'S JUST A VERY FEW. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 3 OR 4. YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT, IF WE IF

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WE DO SET THAT PRECEDENT. IF WE WANT TO CREATE A A DIFFICULT SITUATION, WE ARE WE ARE HOPING THIS WILL BE A TEMPORARY STOPGAP FOR THE CITY. WELL, IF YOU ADD TEMPORARY TO IT, I THINK WE WE MAY CAN GET SOMETHING DONE. BUT IF IF IF THERE'S NO TEMPORARY TO IT, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET ANY COOPERATION OUT OF THE COUNTY COMMISSION. AND I MAY BE WRONG, BUT IT'S A IT'S A PUT YOU IN A BOX. IF YOU TAKE ONE, YOU GOT TO TAKE THE NEXT AND THE NEXT, AND THEN YOU GOT A BIG ONE OVER HERE THAT'S WANTED TO DO IT BEFORE. AND WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PUT ANYBODY? RIGHT, RIGHT. OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A NEGOTIATED CONTRACT. SO WE, WE DON'T WE CAN SAY NO. WELL THAT'S WHAT I THAT'S WHAT I JUST SAID. YOU DID RIGHT. WE WE, WE CAN SAY NO TO, TO ANY CITY THAT YOU KNOW, IF IT GETS, IF IT GETS OUT OF HAND AND WE CAN TELL PEOPLE, NO, WE JUST CAN'T DO IT ANYMORE. BUT THIS IS A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF INMATES. AND WE'RE HONESTLY, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO HELP IRONDALE IN A TOUGH SITUATION.

RIGHT. YOU JUST DON'T HAVE A PLAN THAT'S BEGINNING TO TO TAKE PLACE THAT MAY ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT. YES. BUT I, I, WE DON'T NEED TO BE PUSHED. RIGHT. OKAY. SURE. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE WE NEED TO VOTE ON ONE THROUGH EIGHT. WE HAVE ONE THROUGH EIGHT WITH THE AGREEMENT, NUMBER ONE BEING. TEMPORARY. WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. AND HERE'S THE ONE YEAR CONTRACT. BUT THAT'S WE'RE HOPING THAT WE'D BE SHORTER THAN THAT EVEN. BUT THE DEAL IS FOR UP TO A YEAR, I DO HAVE A QUESTION TOO ON NUMBER EIGHT, THIS PRE-EMPLOYMENT PSYCHOLOGICAL SCREENING. YES, SIR. TELL ME ABOUT THAT. I'M GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. I DON'T REQUIRED OF EVERY EVERY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. OKAY, JUDGE, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT'S HAPPENED WITH SOME OF THE DEPUTIES IS PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA. I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA. AND PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT BETTER BACK, PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT BETTER BACKGROUND CHECKS TO WHAT I'M I'M. WE WE DON'T WANT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO BE EMBARRASSED. RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. AND WE THE BEST JUDGMENT IS ONE YOU DON'T HEAR ABOUT.

ABSOLUTELY. AND WE, WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE NEWS. NEVER DID. AND WE DON'T WANT OUR SHERIFF TO BE. ABSOLUTELY. WE APPRECIATE THAT AS. AND THIS THIS IS A STEP, I THINK, TOWARDS HELPING IN THAT SITUATION. AND WE'LL HELP YOU ANY WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WORKS. SOUNDS GOOD. THANKS, MR. MOVE ITEMS ONE THROUGH EIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ALL RIGHT. NUMBER EIGHT VERSUS 72, 78 YEARS OF BACKUP. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. THANKS, Y'ALL ALL RIGHT, BUDDY? WE DIDN'T BEAT YOU UP TOO BAD. OH, THAT WAS EASY COMPARED TO BOTH OF.

YOU. DON'T GET USED TO IT. ALL RIGHT? WE GOT COMMUNITY GRANT CARRERA, A LITTLE GIRL AND LITTLE ANGELS MEMORIAL COMMUNITY GRANT FOR CARING. LITTLE MEMORIAL PROGRAM TO PROVIDE AWARENESS, EDUCATION FOR INFANT MORTALITY. GIVEN THE $2,000, WE HAVE A COMMUNITY GRANT FOR THE CENTRAL ALABAMA CARIBBEAN AMERICAN ORGANIZATION. THAT'S A BESSEMER DEAL, AND I'M GIVING PART ON THAT, TOO. IT'S IT'S A IT'S A BIG FESTIVAL THEY HAVE DOWN THERE AND IT'S WORKED OUT PRETTY GOOD. AND THE OTHER IS A JEFFERSON COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION FOR BRIGHTON HIGH SCHOOL AND LIPSCOMB ELEMENTARY, WITH A PRETTY LARGE AMOUNT, $30,000. I GOT TWO ITEMS OF NEW BUSINESS, BUT I WANT TO GET THESE VOTED ON. BEFORE I DO THAT, MOVE ON ONE, TWO, THREE.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, AYE AYE. COMMISSIONER, YOU HAVE TWO ITEMS OF NEW BUSINESS FROM DISTRICT TWO. THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO BE PRESENTED. ONE OF THESE IS A MUSIC SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS FOUNDATION, AND THE OTHER IS A COMMUNITY GRANT TO HELP OTHERS. FOUNDATION. ONE IS FOR THE AMOUNT OF $140,000. MUSIC SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS IN. THE SECOND IS IN THE AMOUNT OF $5,000 FOR COMMUNITY GRANT HELP TO OTHERS FOUNDATION. I'M MAKING A JUMP THAT LEGAL CHECKED ALL THESE AND IT'S GONE THROUGH ALL THE PROPER STEPS. YES, SIR. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, HELP TO OTHERS FOUNDATION.

IS THAT THROUGH OUR IS THAT THROUGH THE SEWER PEOPLE? IT'S H2O FOUNDATION. THAT'S THE

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WATERWORKS NONPROFIT? YES. H2O WATER COMPANY. WHY ARE WE WHY DO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT? YEAH. OH, SHE'S CONTRIBUTING TO THAT. OKAY. YEAH IT IS CHAIRMAN. ALL RIGHT. FOR CONSIDERATION OF TWO ITEMS OF NEW BUSINESS. SO SO WE HAVE ON A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND.

I'M NOT GOING TO OBJECT TO IT, BUT I WANT TO DEFINITELY SAY FOR THE RECORD I'M NOT VOTING ON H2O. SO I MEAN THAT'S YOU KNOW Y'ALL CAN PROCEED AND IT CAN GO FORWARD ON THE AGENDA.

ALL RIGHT. I WAS GOING TO ADDRESS IT WHEN WHEN WE GET FORWARD, I WAS GOING TO GET LEGAL TO TO LOOK AT THAT TOO. SO WE HAVE TWO ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION. NEW BUSINESS MOVE MOVE. AND SECOND WE HAVE UNANIMOUS CONSENT. ANYONE AGAINST MOVE IT TO THE AGENDA.

ALL RIGHT. SO SO WE HAVE THAT. WE DO HAVE ONE OF THESE IS IS GOING TO REQUIRE AN ABSTENTION FROM. COMMISSIONER TYSON BECAUSE SHE SITS ON THAT BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE FOUNDATION.

WELL THEO WOULD YOU GO THROUGH THE. YES. IT'S A NONPROFIT. AND SHE ALTHOUGH SHE SITS ON THE BOARD, SHE WOULD NOT BENEFIT FROM IT. SO BUT OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION OR ANY APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY, IT WOULD BE BEST IF SHE ABSTAINED FROM THAT VOTE. BUT BECAUSE THIS IS BROUGHT BEFORE THE COMMISSION FOR THE COMMISSION'S VOTE, THEN THE BODY COULD APPROVE IT AND SHE COULD ABSTAIN. AND IF THE BODY APPROVES IT, IT'S FINE. BUT HOW DOES THAT COMMISSIONER SQUARE WITH WHAT? H2O FOUNDATION IS A SEPARATE ORGANIZATION. THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH CENTRAL ALABAMA WATER. AND THE NEW LAW PREVENTS THE WATERWORKS FROM GIVING ANY DONATION. CENTRAL ALABAMA WATER. WELL, I'M ASSUMING THE BOARD ORGANIZATION.

AND WHAT DID I HEAR THIS WRONG? I THOUGHT SHE SERVED ON THE BOARD. NO, SHE DOES NOT. SHE ONLY SERVED THEN. THEN THERE'S THEN THERE'S REALLY SHOULD BE NONE. THEN THERE'S NO ISSUE.

ALRIGHT. FAIR ENOUGH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THAT HELPS. I NEED A SECOND FOR THE MOVE TO THE AGENDA. WE GOT ONE HE GAVE. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER KNIGHT, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER CINCO DE MAYO TODAY? ISN'T IT TODAY? YES.

COMMISSIONER. I'M GOING TO MEXICO TOMORROW. THERE YOU GO. WELL, THEY FINALLY GOT TO EXTRADITE YOU DOWN THERE. IS THAT WHAT IT IS? MY SON'S GETTING MARRIED ON SATURDAY.

ALL RIGHT. OH, MY. THINGS GOOD IN FIVE? WE'RE JUST HAPPY TO BE HERE. WE'RE BLESSED. THAT'S RIGHT. SHALL HAVE NONE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, COUNTY ATTORNEY. WE GOOD? MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

ALL GOOD. EVERYBODY QUIET. I DO HAVE A QUESTION, AND I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER. ALL OF THIS REDISTRICTING. NONE OF THIS AFFECTS US, AM I CORRECT? THERE ARE SEPARATE ISSUE, SEPARATE CASES, SEPARATE ISSUES THAT ARE INVOLVED THAT I WANTED THAT FOR. CLARIFICATION FOR THE PUBLIC.

IS IT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER HAS. HAS NO NO BEARING THEIR REDISTRICTING HAS NO BEARING ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE LEGISLATURE DOES NOT. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? THAT ONE ON THURSDAY. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE WHY THAT WOULDN'T INTERTWINE. YEAH. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

WE'RE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.