[00:00:08] WELCOME TO THE MAY 14TH, 2026 PUBLIC HEARING OF THE JEFFERSON COUNTY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER. I'M YOUR CHAIRMAN, KEN LOWRY, AND IT'S A A LITTLE A MINUTE. WELL, I GOT TWO MINUTES AFTER ONE, AND WE'RE BEGINNING OUR SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARING. BEFORE WE GET GOING, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE, IF YOUR PHONE IS NOT ON SILENT, WOULD YOU PUT IT ON THERE, PLEASE? THANK YOU. THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION IS CHARGED WITH REGULATING THE SUBDIVISION OF PROPERTY IN UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF JEFFERSON COUNTY, AND THE LEGAL DEFINITION OF A SUBDIVISION IS ANY DIVISION OF LAND INTO TWO OR MORE LOTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF DEVELOPMENT OR SALE. DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN IT'S A 35 LOT SUBDIVISION. SO TYPICALLY OURS ARE FOUR LOTS OR LESS. THE CASES THAT WE HEAR AND FOR ANY ADJACENT FOR THE CASES FOR ANY ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, THEY WERE NOTIFIED BY MAIL AND LEGAL ADVERTISEMENTS WERE POSTED OR ARE PUBLISHED, AND SIGNS WERE POSTED ON THE AFFECTED PROPERTIES CONTAINING FIVE OR MORE LOTS. SO THE COMMISSION IS ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR ADMINISTERING THE COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND FUTURE LAND USE. THE COMMISSION EVALUATES REZONING CASES FOR THEIR CONSISTENCY WITH PLANNING POLICIES AND ZONING REGULATIONS, AS THEY PERTAIN TO THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF THE COUNTY AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION, WHICH MAKES FINAL DECISIONS ON ZONING CASES. PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF EACH ZONING CASE HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED BY MAIL, AND LEGAL ADVERTISEMENTS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED, AND SIGNS HAVE BEEN POSTED ON THE AFFECTED PROPERTIES. AS PART OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY, WE CONDUCT OUR PROCEEDINGS IN ACCORDANCE WITH FEDERAL FAIR HOUSING LAWS. THE FAIR HOUSING ACT PROHIBITS DISCRIMINATION IN HOUSING BASED ON RACE, COLOR, RELIGION, SEX, FAMILIAL STATUS, NATIONAL ORIGIN, DISABILITY, FINANCIAL STATUS OR HOUSING ARRANGEMENTS. AND THE COMMISSION IS COMMITTED TO ENSURING FAIR, LAWFUL AND EQUITABLE LAND USE PRACTICES IN ALL MATTERS THAT COME BEFORE US. CAN I HAVE A ROLL CALL FOR THE COMMISSION, PLEASE? HEY, LOWRY. PRESENT. JAY MILLER PRESENT. MARK SIGLER. HERE. HERE. JOSEPH ANDREWS PRESENT. KENNETH KUSH HERE. TWO STRAND HERE. SEE HERE. EDWARD BROWN HERE. MISTER CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE A QUORUM. AWESOME. THANK YOU. MAY I HAVE [Additional Item] A MOTION REGARDING THE ADOPTION OF OUR MINUTES FROM OUR PREVIOUS MEETING? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND ACCEPT THE APRIL 9TH, 2026 MINUTES AS PRESENTED. SECOND. ALL RIGHT, HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. NOW, WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA. EACH CASE WILL BE PRESENTED INDIVIDUALLY WITH TIME ALLOTTED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. AND THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK. IF YOU'LL INDICATE. I'LL ASK IF YOU'D LIKE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. AND IF YOU'LL RAISE YOUR HAND, I'LL RECOGNIZE YOU. YOU CAN COME UP TO THE PODIUM THEN AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS SO WE CAN HAVE THAT FOR THE RECORD FOR THE MEETING MINUTES. AND THEN WE'LL YOU CAN [S-25-0049 Jose Ramiro Molina Melgar & Jennifer Molina, owners; Steven Allen, agent; Final Plat of Molina Estates, Two (2) lots proposed, Property zoned A-1 (Agriculture). PID# 1000171000007005 in section 17 / Township 15 / Range 1E. (Site address 7898 McIntyre Road, Trussville, 35173)(3.34 acres +/-)] TELL ME WHAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR MIND. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN FIRST WITH OUR SUBDIVISION CASES. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH AN ANNOUNCE THOSE AND THEN I'LL CALL FOR OPPOSITION. AS I WE GO THROUGH EACH ONE. SO IT'S OUR FIRST SUBDIVISION CASE TODAY IS S 250049. THE APPLICANT IS STEVEN ALLEN. THE REQUEST IS A FINAL PLAT OF MOLINA ESTATES. TWO LOTS PROPOSED AT 7898 MCINTYRE ROAD, TRUSSVILLE. IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION OF THIS SUBDIVISION CASE? IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. CASE NUMBER S 240049, WITH AN EXCEPTION TO THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS TO ALLOW LOTS ONE AND TWO TO BE RECORDED WITH NO ROAD FRONTAGE. MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK HE NEEDS TO AMEND. HIS CASE NUMBER IS 25, 2425. SORRY. YES, 250049. I SECOND IT. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION [S-26-0014 Agnes Huges, applicant; Hughes Addition to Bankston Road, Five (5) lots proposed. Property zoned A-1 (Agriculture); PID#s 0400340000031000, Section 34, Twp 14, Range 4W. (Site address: 9223 Bankston Road, Dora, 35062)(34 acres +/-)] PASSES. OUR NEXT SUBDIVISION CASE IS S 250014. THE APPLICANT IS AGNES HUGHES 26. CHAIRMAN. YOU GOT ME DOING IT. NOW I KNOW THE CASE NUMBER S 2600143. BECAUSE WHEN I SAID THAT APPLICANT IS AGNES HUGHES THE REQUEST IS HUGHES ADDITION TO BANKSTON ROAD. FIVE LOTS [00:05:06] PROPOSED AT 9223 BANKSTON ROAD. AND DORA. IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION OF THIS SUBDIVISION CASE? ALL RIGHT. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES. ALL RIGHT. WELCOME. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO THAT THE CLARIFICATION OF THE OF THE REQUIREMENTS REGARDING THE THE SITE DISTANCE QUESTIONS. OKAY. MR. KUSH, COMMISSIONER KUSH. YES. WE'RE GOING TO. WHEREAS THE INITIAL APPLICATION DID NOT SHOW ACCESS AND NO ROAD FRONTAGE FOR LOT OR WERE LIKE TO REQUIRE A STIPULATED THAT THERE'S. RESTRICTION SITE DISTANCE FOR LOT FOR FOR INGRESS EGRESS AND THAT WOULD BE VERIFIED BY ROADS AND TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO RECORDING THE FINAL PLAT. OKAY. SECOND IS MOTION. OKAY, SO I HAVEN'T ASKED FOR A MOTION. SO SO MAY I HAVE A MOTION? YES. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE THE PAST 240014 2620. IT IS. BE APPROVED WITH THE EXCEPTION OR WITH THE APPROVAL THAT A STIPULATION OF SUFFICIENT SITE DISTANCE FOR LOT FOUR FOR INGRESS EGRESS BE VERIFIED BY THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO THE RECORDING OF FINAL PLAT. SECOND. OKAY. HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSES. AND AFTER I'VE HEARD YOUR SUBDIVISION CASE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE, YOU'RE WELCOME TO BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN HEARD AND APPROVED. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY. SO OUR NEXT SUBDIVISION CASE IS S 260023. THE APPLICANT IS JEREMY HAYNES. THE REQUEST IS J AND H ADDITION TO WARRIOR RIVER, HIGHLAND ROAD TWO LOTS PROPOSED. THE ADDRESS IS 285 AND 291 WARRIOR RIVER, HIGHLAND ROAD. AJA, IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION OF THIS SUBDIVISION CASE? MR. CHAIRMAN, POINT OF CLARIFICATION. I THINK THE NEXT CASE I SHOW IS S 260017. OKAY. SO MY I APPRECIATE THAT AND I LET ME CONSULT MY SCRIPT HERE AND SEE WHAT I MISSED. OKAY. OKAY. WHAT I MISSED WAS I FLIPPED TOO MANY PAGES. MY APOLOGIES. SO ALL RIGHT, I'M BACK ON TRACK. SO I GOT THE 26 PART RIGHT. AND I BELIEVE THE [S-26-0017 Francine Hughley and Alma Jenkins Alexander, owners; Roderick Hughley, applicant; Hughley Survey, Five (5) lots proposed, Property zoned A-1 (Agriculture), PID#s 4200083000017000, 4200083000018000, 4200083000019000, 4200083000019001, in Section 08, Twp 20, Range 4W. (Site Addresses 4487, 4501, & 4529 Harper Road; 6881 Edge Street, Bessemer, 35022)(12.4 acres +/-)] LAST PART. ALL RIGHT. CALLING THE CORRECT CASE NOW S 260017. THE APPLICANT IS RODERICK HUGHLEY. THE REQUEST IS HUGHLEY SURVEY FIVE LOTS PROPOSED AT 44, 87, 45, OH ONE AND 4529 HARPER ROAD AND 6881 EDGE STREET IN BESSEMER. ALL RIGHT. SO IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION OF THIS SUBDIVISION CASE? ALL RIGHT. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? ALL RIGHT. WELCOME. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE, MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL ON CASE NUMBER S 260017. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. AND SO OUR NEXT SUBDIVISION CASE IS S 260020. [S-26-0020 Rebecca Lott and William Lott, owners; Katie Martin, agent; Martin Resurvey of Lots 4 & 5 of Lott Family Subdivision, Two (2) lots proposed, Property zoned A-1 (Agriculture). PID#s: 0600120000001000, 0600120000001002 in Section 12 / Township 15 / Range 4 W. (Site Address: 8217 & 8200 Cranford Road, Gardendale, 35071)(32.64 acres +/-)] THE APPLICANT IS KATIE MARTIN. THE REQUEST IS MARTIN RESURVEY OF LOTS FOUR AND FIVE OF THE LOT FAMILY SUBDIVISION TWO LOTS PROPOSED AT 8217 AND 8200 CRANFORD ROAD IN GARDENDALE. IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION TO THIS SUBDIVISION CASE TODAY? IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? WELCOME. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? HEARING NONE. MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN. I MOVE FOR APPROVAL ON CASE NUMBER S 260020. SECOND. ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. OKAY. [S-26-0021 Wilbert Thornton, owner/applicant; Thornton's Addition to Map of Palermo, Plat No. 1, Two (2) lots proposed; Property zoned R-6 (Single Family). PID#: 2100341042001000 in Section 34 / Township 17 / Range 4 W (Site Address: 320 Trenton Street, Birmingham, 35224)(1.24 acres +/-)] OUR NEXT SUBDIVISION CASE IS S 260021. WILBUR THORNTON IS THE APPLICANT. THE REQUEST IS THORNTON'S ADDITION TO MAP OF PALERMO PLAT NUMBER ONE. TWO LOTS PROPOSED AT 320 TRENTON STREET IN BIRMINGHAM. IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS SUBDIVISION CASE? IS THE [00:10:04] APPLICANT PRESENT? ALL RIGHT. WELCOME. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE FOR APPROVAL ON CASE NUMBER S 26002. ONE SECOND. ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. ALL [S-26-0022 Mount Olive Fire and Rescue, Mount Olive Cemetery, Alan Dodd, applicant; Mount Olive Fire and Rescue District and Mount Olive Cemetery 2 Lot Subdivision, Two (2) lots proposed. Property zoned Institutional-1 and Institutional-2. PID#s: 0700324000033000, 0700324000035000 in Section 32 / Township 15 / Range 3 W. (Site Address: 3225 Mount Olive Rd, Mount Olive, 35117)(2.86 acres +/-)] RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT SUBDIVISION. CASE IS S 260022. THE APPLICANT IS ALAN DODD. THE REQUEST IS MOUNT OLIVE FIRE AND RESCUE DISTRICT AND MOUNT OLIVE CEMETERY. TWO LOT SUBDIVISION, TWO LOTS PROPOSED AT 3225 MOUNT OLIVE ROAD, MOUNT OLIVE. IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS SUBDIVISION CASE? IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? ALL RIGHT. WELCOME. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. MAY HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. CASE NUMBER S 260022. SECOND, HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. SO OUR NEXT CASE [S-26-0023 Jeremy Haynes, Horace Jones, Keva Jones, owners; Jeremy Haynes, applicant; J & H Addition to Warrior River Highland Road, Two (2) lots proposed. Property zoned A-1 (Agriculture). PID#s: 1800350000032000, 1800350000032001 in Section 35 / Township 17 / Range 7 W. (Site Address: 285 & 291 Warrior River Highland Road, Adger, 35006)(24.5 acres +/-)] IS S 220023. THE APPLICANT IS JEREMY HAYNES. THE REQUEST IS J AND H ADDITION TO WARRIOR RIVER, HIGHLAND ROAD. TWO LOTS PROPOSED. THE ADDRESS IS 285 AND 291, WARRIOR RIVER, HIGHLAND ROAD AND ADGER. MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR THE RECORD, I BELIEVE THAT IS S 260023. DID I SAY 2422? NO WORRIES. OKAY, I'M GOING TO RECALL IT JUST TO MAKE SURE I GOT IT RIGHT. SO TEAM EFFORTS. OKAY. SO S 260023 IS THE CASE. JEREMY HAYNES IS THE APPLICANT. THE REQUEST IS J AND H ADDITION TO WARRIOR RIVER HIGHLAND ROAD TWO LOTS PROPOSED. THE ADDRESS IS 285 AND 291 WARRIOR RIVER, HIGHLAND ROAD. AND ADGER. IS ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS SUBDIVISION CASE TODAY? ALL RIGHT. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. CASE NUMBER S 260023. SECOND. OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ANYONE [S-26-0024 Hamilton Family Properties LLC & Hamilton Homeplace LLC, owners; John Lawley, applicant; Hamilton Place Subdivision, Thirty-two (32) lots proposed. Property zoned A-1 (Agriculture). PID#s: 4300021000035000, Part of 4300022000007000, 4300024000009000 in Section 21,22 &24 / Township 20 / Range 5 W. (Site Address: 6305 Old Tuscaloosa Hwy, McCalla, 35111)(58.17 acres +/-)] OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSES. OUR NEXT SUBDIVISION CASE IS S 260024. THIS IS APPLICANT IS JOHN LAWLEY. THE REQUEST IS HAMILTON PLACE SUBDIVISION 32 LOTS PROPOSED. THE ADDRESS IS 6305 OLD TUSCALOOSA HIGHWAY. AND MCCULLOUGH. IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION TO THIS SUBDIVISION CASE. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO GO LEFT TO RIGHT FROM MY SIDE. SO MA'AM YOU CAN COME UP FIRST. SO JUST ONE OF YOU IS GOING TO HAS OPPOSITION. OKAY. WE'RE ALL TOGETHER. I BELIEVE THEY ARE. OKAY. WELL, SO IF YOU SO IF YOU IF YOU IF YOU HAVE OPPOSITION AND YOU WANT TO SPEAK, RAISE YOUR HAND. I'LL SPEAK. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. COME ON UP. WELL, I'LL ASK AGAIN AFTER YOU FINISH. COME UP. GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND TELL ME WHAT'S GOING ON. SURE. 5671 CHARLES HAMILTON ROAD. MY NAME IS JOHNNY GREEN. MY MOTHER, PAT GAMBLE, IS ALSO HERE. OUR ISSUE IS WITH THE PROPOSED, THE WAY THEY HAVE IT LAID OUT WITH THE DRAINAGE DITCHES. MOSTLY WE HAVE WELLS AND LAKES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY, AND THE WAY THEY HAVE THE DRAINAGE DITCHES LAID OUT HERE. NOW IT'S GOING TO RUN DIRECTLY INTO THAT ARTESIAN WELL AND POSSIBLY CONTAMINATE OUR WELL WATER. SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO ADDRESS RUNOFF ISSUES FOR THIS SUBDIVISION. AND ALSO SEPTIC ISSUES. IS IT A COMMUNAL LIKE THE LAST TIME THAT WAS PROPOSED, OR IS THIS DIFFERENT WITH INDIVIDUAL SEPTIC SYSTEMS? IN ADDITION? ONCE THIS GOES THROUGH TODAY, THIS PLAN THEY'VE SUBMITTED, ARE THEY HELD TO THIS? CAN THEY CHANGE IT AFTER THE FACT? CAN THEY ADD MORE HOUSES? THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL I'LL GET SOME ANSWERS FOR YOU. OKAY. THE LETTER THAT WAS SENT FROM MY ATTORNEY, IT SHOULD BE WITH THE PACKAGE. YEP. WE'VE GOT IT. AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT ALREADY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? AND SO I'LL KIND OF GIVE YOU A LITTLE GUIDANCE. SO IF IF IT'S THE SAME THING SHERRY SAID, WE'VE GOT IT DOWN. SO IF YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING ELSE, THAT'S THE BEST PROCESS. OKAY. PLEASE COME ON UP AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS TO START, PLEASE. SIR CHARLES GISSENDANNER 57, 75 CHARLES [00:15:02] HAMILTON ROAD. MY QUESTIONS OR MY YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF IT CAN BE ANSWERED. NUMBER ONE, THE WATER RUN OFF BECAUSE I'M LIVING RIGHT WHERE THE ENTRANCE ROADS PROPOSED TO BE. THAT BIG SQUARE PART IS ALL MY PROPERTY. ALSO, THERE'S AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF RUNOFF WATER ANYWAY AT MY HOUSE WITH, YOU KNOW, FLOODING WHEN IT RAINS A LOT AND ADDED CARS. IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, THERE'S BEEN FOUR ACCIDENTS IN MY FRONT YARD ALREADY. PEOPLE DRIVE TOO FAST UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD, YOU KNOW? SO IF I COULD GET SOME CLARITY TO THAT, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE, SIR? THAT'S ABOUT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I KNOW THERE WERE A LOT OF LOT OF PEOPLE HERE THAT WERE INTERESTED IN OPPOSITION. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THEY'D LIKE TO ADD TO WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT UP? OKAY. COME ON, COME ON UP AND START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR US, PLEASE. WELL, I JUST NOTICED THIS WHEN YOU JUST ANNOUNCED THE PROPERTY AND THE ADDRESS? THE ADDRESS IS OLD TUSCALOOSA HIGHWAY. OH. I'M SORRY, MY NAME IS RACHEL DOCKERY. MY ADDRESS IS 4845 CHARLES HAMILTON ROAD. YEAH, THE THE PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 35, SORRY, 6305 OLD TUSCALOOSA HIGHWAY. THAT'S ALL AT OLD TUSCALOOSA HIGHWAY. THE ADDRESS IS ACROSS THE STREET. OKAY, SO HANG ON. YOU AND I ARE TALKING. IT'S NOT A CONVERSATION WITH THE GROUP, SO IT'S JUST A QUESTION. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE ADDRESS FOR THIS. AND IF THAT CHANGES WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT HAS A COUNTY ADDRESS FOR THE PROPERTY THAT'S IN QUESTION. MICHAEL OR ANDREW, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD ON THAT? IF YOU IF ADDRESS IS LIKE THOSE ARE WHAT WE CALL PLACEHOLDER ADDRESSES. ADDRESSES ARE NOT ASSIGNED TO SOMETHING, SOME TYPE OF PROJECT RATHER THAN A COMMERCIAL BUILDING. IT'S BEEN GOOD. SO THAT'S JUST A PLACEHOLDER TO ADD TO THIS. OKAY. SO ARE YOU SAYING THE ADDRESS IS BELONGS TO SOMEWHERE ELSE OR ARE YOU TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT? IT'S NOT THE ROAD. SO I WAS JUST CONFUSED ABOUT THE LOCATION. IF IT CHANGED ANYTHING ABOUT THE OKAY ANDREW DEVELOPMENT, IT WAS ADVERTISED IN CASE WE HAVE MULTIPLE ADDRESSES ON THE SITE I SEE. OH FIVE OLD TESTAMENT TO HIGHWAY 57, 49 AND 58 AND 11. CHARLES HAMILTON ROAD. I SEE THERE'S A LOT OF THERE'S MULTIPLE TRACKS. OKAY, OKAY. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE IN OPPOSITION OR HAVE A QUESTION? OKAY. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP OR. I'D LIKE YOU TO COME UP AND ADDRESS THEIR QUESTIONS FIRST FOR US, PLEASE. AND WE'LL FILL IN THIS WITH STAFF AS WE NEED TO. PLEASE START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS BEFORE YOU SPEAK. SURE. I'M JOE SCHIFANO AT 120 BISHOP CIRCLE WITH ENGINEERING DESIGN GROUP. I'M THE ENGINEER AND SURVEYOR ON THE PROJECT AND JUST WANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP, THE FIRST ONE BEING THE RUNOFF TO THE LOCAL WELLS. SO THE SITE IS BEING DEVELOPED AS ONE POINT AVERAGE OF 1.8 ACRE PARCELS. SO IT'S 57 ACRES, AND WE'RE DIVIDING IT UP INTO 32 RESIDENTIAL LOTS. WE'RE INSTALLING ROADWAYS WITH SOFT EDGE PAVEMENT, WITH ROADSIDE DITCHES TO HAVE AS MINIMAL OF AN IMPACT ON THE LAND AS WE CAN. OUR EROSION CONTROL PLANS DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT WILL HAVE SILT FENCES, CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCES, AND SEDIMENT PONDS THAT ARE INSTALLED TO CAPTURE AND CONTROL RUNOFF AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS. SO WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THE STANDARDS OF PRACTICE TO ENSURE THAT WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE CONSTRUCTING THERE IS GOING TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT AND NOT HAVE A DETRIMENTAL EFFECT ON THE DOWNSTREAM PROPERTIES. SO WE'LL FOLLOW ALL OF ALL OF THE RULES BY 8 A.M. AND AND THE COUNTY IN THAT REGARD. OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. SO, YES. ARE YOU AWARE OF WHERE THE ARTESIAN WELLS ARE LOCATED ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY? SITTING HERE TODAY WAS THE FIRST I HAVE HEARD OF THAT. SO I'M NOT AWARE OF WHERE THESE ARE. OKAY. AND SO I'M GOING TO ASK THE COUNTY STAFF HERE. SO FOR DO WE TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT WITH THE REGULATIONS FOR STORMWATER CONTROL. I KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED. I MEAN, WHETHER OR NOT IT AFFECTS A. WELL, WATER IS PRETTY, PRETTY COMPLEX. I THINK THAT I DON'T HAVE ANY, BUT I'M NOT WARM WATER GROUPS ARE HERE PRESENT. WELL, YOU USED TO BE THAT GUY, RIGHT? MANY YEARS AGO. OKAY. BUT AT [00:20:06] THAT TIME WE DID NOT LOOK AT THAT. BUT THEY COULD BE LOOKING AT IT NOW. OKAY, SO AND IS A STORMWATER STUDY REQUIRED FOR THIS? YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. SO IT WOULD IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED IN THAT STORMWATER. ACTING. OKAY. AND Y'ALL ARE GOING TO ORDER STORMWATER STUDY. CORRECT. SO THAT WOULD BE THE SECOND PART OF WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH THE COUNTY STAFF ON THIS. WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO CASES RUNNING CONCURRENTLY THROUGH THE THE CITY OR THE COUNTY STAFF. ONE IS THIS THIS PLAT HEARING. AND THE SECOND ONE IS OUR CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED AND ARE CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW. AND WE ARE ADDRESSING SOME COMMENTS THERE. WELL, I GUESS THE GOOD THING IS WE HAVE NOW AWARENESS OF THE WELLS, AND YOU CAN BE SURE TO ADDRESS THEM IN YOUR STUDY BEFORE IT COMES TO THE COUNTY. AND THEY HAVE YOU GO BACK AND READDRESS IT. SO WE WILL WORK WITH STAFF ON ON ADDRESSING THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. GOOD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I'LL LET YOU CONTINUE. THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING THAT. AND SO THE NEXT QUESTION WAS, RELATIVE TO HOW WE'RE HANDLING SANITARY SEWER, WE ARE NOT PROPOSING TO DO ANY TYPE OF A PACKAGE SYSTEM OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE DISCHARGING TREATED WATERS IN A POINT SOURCE. THIS WILL ALL BE ON SITE SEPTIC THAT IS GOING TO BE PERMITTED THROUGH THE JEFFERSON COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE A SOIL SCIENTIST ON SITE AS KIND OF AS WE SPEAK TODAY, FINISHING UP HIS STUDIES. HE'S DOING ALL THE TESTING, AND IT'LL GO THROUGH ALL THE PROCESSES WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR SETBACKS FROM STREAMS, MAKING SURE THAT THE GROUNDWATER IS NOT IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE FIELD LINES, IT WILL BE INSTALLED. AND THEY'RE DOING ALL THAT TESTING ON SITE NOW. OKAY. AND GIVEN THE SIZE OF THESE LOTS, WE HAVE AMPLE ROOM FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THESE. IT'S JUST FINDING THE BEST PLACEMENT FOR THEM. JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU'RE GOING TO DO INDIVIDUAL SEPTIC SYSTEMS PER LOT, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEY'LL HAVE TO MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THEY HAVE A VERY THEY HAVE A VERY RIGOROUS PROCESS FOR APPROVAL, FOR CREATING BOTH A PRIMARY FIELD AND A SECONDARY FIELD IN CASE THE PRIMARY ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS IS THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. WE'RE WE'RE QUITE AWARE OF ALL HIS STRINGENT REQUIREMENTS. SO WE ARE IN THAT PROCESS. OKAY. AND I GUESS LASTLY, THE LAST THING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS MR. GISSENDANNER DRAINAGE ON THE RIGHT OF WAY IN FRONT OF HIS HOME. SO WE'VE ACTUALLY MET WITH HIM OUT IN FRONT OF HIS HOUSE, WITNESSED WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT, AND HE DOES HAVE DITCHES THERE THAT ARE VERY FLAT AND GRADE. SO AFTER IT RAINS, WATER DOES STAND THERE AND DURING A RAIN EVENT, THE DRIVEWAY PIPES THAT ARE THERE ARE UNDERSIZED. SO THOSE THINGS WE ARE AWARE OF. AND TALKING TO MR. LOLLEY, HERE WE ARE. WE ARE AMENABLE TO GOING IN AND HELPING TO. WITHIN THE COUNTY'S RIGHT OF WAY THERE, REGRADE THOSE DITCHES TO ALLEVIATE THAT DRAINAGE STANDING AND TO INSTALL PIPES THAT ARE ADEQUATELY SIZED TO PASS THE STORMWATER. OKAY, GOOD. WE'VE HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS. OKAY. SO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WAS DISCUSSED, QUESTIONS AND SUCH THAT YOU WANT TO ADDRESS OR ANY OTHER REMARKS? I THINK THE LAST ITEM THAT I MADE NOTE OF WAS THE QUESTION ON THE ADDRESS. AND I THINK THAT WAS THAT WAS ADDRESSED ALREADY. OKAY. MORE HOUSES WERE AFTER THIS MEETING. HANG ON, HE SAID THE PODIUM, I, I CAN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID. DID YOU HEAR WHAT SHE ASKED? I DID, I'M SORRY I OVERLOOKED THAT AND WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ADD MORE LOTS TO THIS SUBDIVISION WITHOUT FIRST COMING BACK TO THIS BOARD, TO THIS BODY. OKAY. THANK YOU. ACTUALLY, THAT WAS A QUESTION FOR I WAS GOING TO ANSWER. SO THANK YOU. YES. SO SO THE PROCESS HERE IS WE'RE APPROVING THE NUMBER OF LOTS THAT ARE SHOWN ON THIS PLAT. IF THEY WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE GOING UP OR DOWN, THEY ARE IN CONFIGURATION. THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO US AND WE GO THROUGH THIS ALL AGAIN. SO THEY PROBABLY WON'T DO THAT UNLESS THEY ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO. SO THIS IS A GOOD FINAL STAGE DRAWING FOR THEIR PLANS. SO OKAY, IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST HANG ON. HANG ON FOR A MINUTE. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. YOU GUYS CAN SIT DOWN. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW AND ASK FOR A MOTION. MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN ORDER, BUT CAN WE CAN WE CHECK WITH THE THOSE IN OUR POSITION TO ENSURE FROM TO HEAR FROM THEM THAT THEIR CONCERNS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED HERE. I WANT THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT OUR PROCESS, NOT OUR PROCESS. I'VE CLOSED THE HEARING. SO YOU KNOW. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. SO AND I FEEL LIKE THEIR QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED HERE. SO THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. YOU'RE WELCOME. NOW, MAY I HAVE A MOTION, [00:25:02] PLEASE? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL ON CASE NUMBER S 26002 FOR SECOND. ALL RIGHT. HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. NO. ALL RIGHT. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. DIDN'T ASK FOR OPPOSITION. YAY, YAY YAY! MARKLE AND ZIEGLER. YAY! CHRISTIE. FORSYTHE! YAY! JOSEPH ANDREWS! YES! ANKUSH! YAY! SHRUTI STRAND! YAY! MEERA I. EVAN BROWN. NO AND LOWRY I. THE AYES HAVE IT 81. NO. ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSES 8 TO 1. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR OUR NEXT SUBDIVISION CASE. IF Y'ALL IF Y'ALL WANT TO GO OUT AND TALK IF YOU WOULD STEP OUTSIDE, WE'LL PAUSE A MINUTE, GIVE YOU TIME TO GET OUT. OKAY. OUR NEXT [S-26-0025 Kevin Brown, owner; Thomas Dreher, applicant; Brown’s Resurvey of Morgans Run Parkway, Two (2) lots proposed. Property zoned E-2 (Estate). PID#s: 4200101000016000, 4200101000017000 in Section 10 / Township 20 / Range 4 W (Site Address: 3601 & 3605 Morgans Run Parkway, Bessemer, 35022)(0.98 acres +/-)] SUBDIVISION CASE IS S 260025. THE APPLICANT IS THOMAS DREYER. REQUEST IS BROWN'S RESURVEY OF MORGAN'S RUN PARKWAY. TWO LOTS PROPOSED AT 3601 AND 3605 MORGAN RUN. MORGAN'S RUN PARKWAY IN BESSEMER. IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION OF THIS SUBDIVISION? CASE? IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? WELCOME. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE FOR APPROVAL ON CASE NUMBER S 260025. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. THANK [Z-26-0010 Shamrock Sustainable Investments, LLC, Clifford O’Rear, applicant requests a change of zoning to A-1 (Agriculture) to allow low-density residential and agricultural use. Property currently zoned I-3(S) (Strip Mining). PID# 3200010000002000 in Section 01/ Township 18/ Range 6 W. (Site Address: 8350 Taylors Ferry Road, Hueytown, 35023)(562.28 Acres+/-)] YOU. SO NEXT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR OUR REZONING CASES. THE STAFF WILL PRESENT EACH CASE TO THE COMMISSION. AND THEN WE WILL CALL FOR OPPOSITION. THE APPLICANT OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVES MAY BE ASKED TO COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL. EACH SIDE WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 15 MINUTES. AND JUST NOTE THE ZONING COMMISSION ONLY MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS. THE COUNTY COMMISSION MAKES THE FINAL DECISION ON APPROVAL OR DENIAL, WHICH MEANS IT'LL BE HEARD AGAIN AFTER US. SO OUR FIRST ZONING CASE IS Z 260010. THE APPLICANT IS CLIFFORD O'REAR, REQUESTING A CHANGE OF ZONING TO A1 AGRICULTURAL TO ALLOW LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND AGRICULTURAL USE. THE ADDRESS IS 8350 TAYLOR'S FERRY ROAD IN HUEYTOWN. WE'RE GOING TO DO A QUICK PRESENTATION HERE AND THEN I'LL CALL FOR OPPOSITION. ALL RIGHT. YES, SIR. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THREE 562.28 ACRES. THIS ON THE LEFT, ALL FROM I3 STRIP MINING TO A1 AGRICULTURE. AND ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE SHOWS WHERE THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A FIVE LOT SUBDIVISION. ON 6263.3 ACRES, EACH LOT BEING GREATER THAN TEN ACRES. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT AND UNDEVELOPED. THE SURROUNDING ZONING AREAS CONSIST OF AGRICULTURAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES. THE PROPOSED REZONING REPRESENTS REPRESENTS A TRANSITION FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DESIGNATION TO AGRICULTURAL USE. THE PROPOSED ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF NATURAL AREAS AND OPEN SPACE, AND STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL. THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THE ZONING. OKAY. THANK YOU CONNIE. YOU'RE WELCOME. IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION OR HAVE A QUESTION? WOULD YOU COME UP AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND AND TELL ME WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND, PLEASE? HELLO. I'M KOJO, I LIVE AT 500 CROSS WALK IN BESSEMER, ALABAMA. THAT'S IN THE SUB SUBDIVISION CALLED CROSS CREEK. SOME OF THE CONCERNS WE FIRST OF ALL, WE DON'T KNOW THE SIZE OF THE HOUSES. WE'VE ALREADY HAD HOUSES PUT INSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT REALLY, WE FELT LIKE DIDN'T EVEN PASS CODES. AND I DON'T WANT THAT TO CONTINUE TO HAPPEN. SO EVERY TIME I RECEIVE A LETTER, I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO COME AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. I ALSO HEARD A NEIGHBOR SAY, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO GET US PUT OUT OF OUR HOUSES. SO I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AN APARTMENT COMPLEX BEING PUT THERE, IF A HOUSE BEING PUT ON [00:30:02] THE TEN ACRES, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT'S BEING PUT THERE. OKAY, SO CONNIE, YOU WILL ADD A LITTLE BIT TO HELP ANSWER HER QUESTIONS, AND THEN WE'LL BRING THE APPLICANT UP. IT'S OUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. AND AS I SAID, THE SMALLEST LOT IS OVER TEN ACRES. SO THE HOUSES, THEIR HOUSES, THEIR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE HOUSES. OKAY. AND ABOUT HOW MANY HOUSES? FIVE HOUSES IS FIVE ACRES. I MEAN, FIVE LOTS. AND THERE'LL BE ONE HOUSE PER LOT. OKAY. SO THERE'S NO APARTMENTS? NOTHING LIKE THAT? NO, MA'AM. IT'S NOT ZONED FOR APARTMENTS, OKAY. AND NOBODY'S RUNNING ANYBODY OUT OF THEIR HOUSE EITHER. OKAY. DID THAT ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS? WOULD YOU SAY, WHAT DOES HE MEAN BY LOW DENSITY? IT MEANS ONE HOUSE WITH A LOT OF LAND. SO IT'S NOT LIKE A HIGH DENSITY WOULD BE LIKE FIVE ACRES WITH TEN HOUSES ON IT. THIS IS LIKE FIVE ACRES WITH ONE HOUSE ON IT. SO THERE'S MORE LAND PER HOUSE. IS THERE A WAY TO PUT IT? OKAY. YOU'RE WELCOME. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? THE OPPOSITION HAS A QUESTION. OKAY. YOU KNOW HOW TO DO IT BY NOW, RIGHT? NAME AND ADDRESS FIRST. NANCY STANBURY, 512. CROSS WALK. WE'RE IN THE SUBDIVISION, JUST LIKE SHE SAID. WE'VE ALREADY HAD ALL THESE PEOPLE COME IN, PUT ALL THESE LITTLE HOUSES, DROP OUR PROPERTY VALUE. WE DEALT WITH THE MINES WHEN THEY CAME BACK IN. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS ON THAT. WOULD YOU TALK TO ME SO I CAN HEAR YOU SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE HOUSES THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD? BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. THIS JUST CAME IN THE MAIL. I UNDERSTAND. SO WHEN THE APPLICANT COMES UP, I'LL LET THEM TALK ABOUT WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE. OKAY. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? WE DON'T WANT IT. SIR. OH, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN OPPOSITION THAT HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? WOULD YOU COME ON DOWN? CLIFF O'REAR 6283, STATE HIGHWAY 160. HAYDEN, ALABAMA. WELCOME. THANK YOU. I'VE WORKED WITH FOR AMERICAN FOREST MANAGEMENT. WE ARE THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY FOR THE SHAMROCK PROPERTIES. THEY PURCHASED THESE PROPERTIES AS A BOTH TIMBER AND REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT. AND ONE OF ONE OF MY JOBS IS TO FIND AREAS THAT WOULD BE BETTER SUITABLE FOR RESIDENTIAL USE THAN FOR GROWING TIMBER, ESPECIALLY WITH TIMBER MARKETS LIKE THEY ARE. AND, YOU KNOW, OUR OUR INTENT HERE WITH THE REZONING IS JUST TO ALLOW FUTURE PURCHASERS TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THEIR HOME. WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE A RESTRICTION ON SQUARE FOOTAGE. BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALL OVER ALL OVER TEN ACRES. AND DO YOU HAVE A PRICE POINT THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT FOR THE ACREAGE? PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE IN EXCESS OF TEN 000 PER ACRE. OKAY. SO. SO AND THEIR TEN ACRE LOTS, IS THAT RIGHT? YES. SO I'LL DO THE MATH ON THERE. THAT'S AN EXPENSIVE LOT. RIGHT. SO YOU WOULDN'T PUT A SMALL HOUSE ON A LOT THAT BIG. I DON'T THINK UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A HUNTING CAMP OUT OF IT OR SOMETHING. YEAH. THESE REALLY AREN'T LARGE ENOUGH FOR HUNTING CAMPS. YEAH. SO. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD? NO. ALL RIGHT. LET ME SEE IF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU. COMMISSIONERS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. RAY, YOU'RE JUST PLANNING JUST YOU JUST WANT TO SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY FOR FUTURE SALES, CORRECT? YES. YEAH. THAT'S GOOD FOR FUTURE FUTURE REAL ESTATE LISTINGS. CORRECT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. O'REAR. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION, PLEASE. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE Z26-0010. SECOND, HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSES. SO WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THIS REZONING CASE. WE HAVE A SUBDIVISION CASE AND IT'S S 260019. THE APPLICANT IS MR. O'REAR AND IT'S THE SAME ADDRESS TAYLOR'S FERRY ROAD EAST SUBDIVISION FIVE LOTS PROPOSED. AND THE ADDRESS IS 8351 TAYLOR'S FERRY ROAD IN HUEYTOWN. YES, SIR. THIS IS THE 63.3 ACRES HERE TO THE RIGHT, SHOWING THE FIVE LOTS THAT ARE SAID. EACH LOT WAS IN EXCESS OF TEN ACRES. SO EACH LOT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE A ONE REQUIREMENT. DISTRICTS FOR ZONING. THERE'S NO ANTICIPATED [00:35:03] ROAD ACCESS OR TRAFFIC OPERATION ISSUES, NO ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION WILL BE REQUIRED. THERE'S NO FLOODPLAIN ON THE PROPERTY. THERE IS NO SEWER AVAILABLE AND THEY WILL NEED AN ON SITE SEPTIC SYSTEM THROUGH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE SUBDIVISION. THANK YOU. CONNIE, IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS DIVISION OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED? SURE. WE GOT. I HATE TO DO THIS TO YOU, BUT WE GOT TO FOLLOW OUR PROCEDURE FOR KEEPING IT THE MINUTES. SO IF YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AGAIN, PLEASE. YES. I'M SORRY. MY NAME IS ANDREW NEIL, 500 CROSS WALK IN BESSEMER, ALABAMA. I DO WANT TO KNOW THE SIZE OF THE THE HOUSES THAT EACH HOUSE. OKAY. SO AS HE MENTIONED, WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE SETTLING. IF YOU WANT TO STAY UP HERE AND SEE IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS. SO THEY'RE SELLING THE PROPERTY TO ANYBODY THAT'S INTERESTED. THERE'S NO RESTRICTIONS ON THE SIZE OF HOW HOUSES. SO SOMEONE COULD BUILD A SMALL HOUSE OR A BIG HOUSE ON IT. SPEAK IT LOUDER. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS? 400, 400FT■!S. OKAY. BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THESE LOTS ARE VERY EXPENSIVE. AND THE LIKELIHOOD OF SOMEBODY BUILDING A SMALL HOUSE IS SLIM, I WOULD THINK. YEAH, I MEAN, SO I MEAN, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, MOST PEOPLE PUT A BIG HOUSE ON A LOT THAT EXPENSIVE. THAT HELP. I MEAN, IT'S SUBJECTIVE, I KNOW. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR OPPOSITION? PATSY STANBURY 512. CROSSWALK. I WANT TO KNOW THAT THEY CAN'T PUT A TRAILER ON IT. OKAY. ANDREW. SO CAN YOU PUT THE ZONING UP REAL QUICK? I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS IS. THE FIRST CASE WE DECIDED WAS FOR THE PROPERTY FROM INDUSTRIAL STRIP MINING. SO IF YOU GO THERE, STRIP MINED THIS PROPERTY RIGHT NOW TODAY, TWO TWO AGRICULTURE. CORRECT. THAT'S THE GREEN RIGHT THERE. OKAY. SO YOU CAN HAVE A MOBILE HOME IN IN AGRICULTURE THAT'S PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING AROUND ME. LET'S BE SPECIFIC. YOU CAN ADD ONE PER. PER PER LOT CURRENTLY. OKAY. SO THEY COULD APPLY THE THERE IS THE OPTION FOR THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION WHICH WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK IN HERE. SO SO YES, THEY CAN PUT A MOBILE HOME ON IT. THEY CAN PUT ONLY ONE ON IT WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BACK FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION. THAT'S MUCH, MUCH OF THE SURROUNDING LAND AMOUNT. IS THIS ALL THIS GREEN? THIS IS ALL AGRICULTURE. THE ONLY REASON THIS IS A BLUE COLOR STRIP ON AGRICULTURE IS THE PREDOMINANT ZONING. THIS IS KIND OF THE THE SMALLER SUBDIVISION. IT'S KIND OF THE EXCEPTION. YES. BUT I HAVE ONE OF THE LARGEST HOUSES IN THE SUBDIVISION AND PUT IN TRAILERS AFFECTS OUR TRAILER. TRAILER. YEAH, IT'D BE ONE PER LOT. SO IT'D BE FIVE AT THE MAX RIGHT NOW, BUT IT STILL AFFECTS MY PROPERTY VALUE. MA'AM, I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST THEN YOU WOULD PROBABLY FOLLOW UP WITH SHAMROCK AND MAYBE BUY SOME OF THAT PROPERTY. I'VE ALREADY BOUGHT EVERYTHING AROUND ME. WELL, NOT THAT PROPERTY, I GUESS BECAUSE THEY OWN IT AND THEY'RE ENTITLED TO DO WHAT THEY CAN DO UNDER THE ZONING RIGHT NOW. SO I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S THE REALITY. MA'AM, I HAVE 12 THAT'S IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT HERE, CROSS CREEK. THE PROPERTIES. SO JUST SO YOU CAN SEE THE. THIS IS THE THIS IS THE PROPOSED LOTS HERE. THAT'S THIS ROAD RIGHT HERE. SO THAT PROPERTY IS NOT TECHNICALLY TOUCHING YOURS. THIS THIS PART RIGHT HERE HAS NOT BEEN SUBJECT TO. BUT WHAT AROUND WHAT'S AROUND ME AFFECTS ME. YES, MA'AM. THIS IS ALL STRIP MINING. INDUSTRIAL ZONING. I DON'T THINK THAT. I DON'T THINK THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING TO AGRICULTURE IS GOING TO DECREASE THE VALUE. IF ANYTHING, WE MAY ACTUALLY MAY ACTUALLY INCREASE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU CAN'T FEEL AT HOME. THAT'S RIGHT. YOU CAN ONLY DO IT FROM MINING OPERATIONS, WHICH IS USUALLY VERY INTENSIVE. BUT THEY'VE ALREADY MINED, THEY'VE ALREADY STRIPPED AND THEY'VE ALREADY GONE WILD UNDER US. SO THERE'S NOTHING LEFT. YEAH. SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTIONS. AND I THERE'S THINGS WE CAN AND CANNOT CONTROL HERE. AND WE CAN'T CONTROL THE SIZE OF THE [00:40:01] HOUSES THEY BUILD ON HERE. THE REGULATIONS STATE THAT IT HAS TO BE A 400 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY. AND IT CAN HAVE ONE TRAILER, BUT IT ALSO CAN BE A MEGA MANSION. SO AND THINK ABOUT IT. SO I DIDN'T DO THE MATH. YOU DID THE MATH. HOW MUCH IS ONE LOT 500,000. YEAH, YEAH. IS THAT WHAT IT WAS? MR. REAR? WHAT WAS IT, 5000 ACRES? IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? 10,000? 10,000 ACRE? YEAH. SO ANYWHERE FROM 100 TO $150,000. OKAY. AND THAT'S AN EXPENSIVE LOT. SO BUT I WOULD EXPECT IF THEY SPEND THAT MUCH ON A LOT, THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD A HOUSE, BUT THEY COULD DO A TRAILER. BUT I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING PREVENTING THEM FROM DOING THAT. AND ALL WE'RE DOING HERE IS APPROVING THEIR GIVING THEM PERMISSION TO SUBDIVIDE THEIR LAND. IS THEIR THE HUNTING CLUB IN BETWEEN THE SUBDIVISION AND THIS PROPERTY THAT ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE ROAD. OKAY. BECAUSE THEY DO, THEY DO. AND IT'S NOT MONITORED SO WELL. YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU CAN BE THE MONITOR AND YOU CAN CALL LAND DEVELOPMENT AND ISSUE A REPORT THAT THEY HAVE MORE THAN ONE TRAILER ON THE PROPERTY. OKAY. AND THEY'LL COME OUT AND THEY WILL, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT PROCESS. THEY'LL GIVE THEM NOTICE AND THEY CAN CORRECT IT OR THEY CAN GET FINED OR WORSE. I GET THAT. RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MAY I HAVE A MOTION ON THE SUBDIVISION CASE, PLEASE? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE FOR APPROVAL ON CASE NUMBER S 260019. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. SO [Z-26-0011 Hilda Miguel Quirino, owner/applicant; requests a change of zoning to A-1 (Agriculture) to remove split zoning for the addition of a mobile home. Property currently zoned: A-1 (Agriculture) & C-1 (Commercial). PID# 1400312000005002, in Section 31/ Township 16/ Range 3 W. (Site Address: 2903 Cherry Avenue, Birmingham, 35214)(2.22 Acres+/-)] WE'RE MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT REZONING CASE, WHICH IS Z 260011. THE APPLICANT IS HILDA MIGUEL, I THINK I GOT THAT RIGHT. AND THE REQUEST IS A CHANGE OF ZONING TO A ONE AGRICULTURAL TO REMOVE A SPLIT ZONING FOR ADDITION OF A MOBILE HOME. THIS IS ON 2903 CHERRY AVENUE IN BIRMINGHAM. YES, SIR. FIRST OF ALL, SPLIT ZONING IS NOT ALLOWED C ONE AND A ONE. SO WE HAVE TO REMOVE THE SPLIT ZONING TO BRING IT TO COMPLIANCE. ALSO, MOBILE HOMES ARE NOT ALLOWED IN C ONE BUT THEY ARE ALLOWED IN THE A ONE ZONING DISTRICT. SO APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE A ONE ZONING DISTRICT FOR MOBILE HOME THAT WILL BE USED FOR PERSONAL OR FAMILY USE. THIS PROPERTY REALLY ABUTS MOSTLY A ONE. EVEN IN THE CITY OF BROOKSIDE. ALL THAT PROPERTY THERE IS THE A ONE ZONING DISTRICT. THERE IS A FLOODPLAIN ON THE PROPERTY AND A FLOODPLAIN DEVELOPMENT PERMIT WILL BE REQUIRED ON THE MANUFACTURER. HOME SHOULD BE PLACED OUTSIDE THE SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA IF POSSIBLE. THE RESULT OF THIS PARCEL. THE REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY FROM I FROM A ONE AND C ONE TO A ONE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE. IT JUST NEEDS TO REMAIN OUTSIDE THE 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. OKAY. THANK YOU. CONNIE, IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REZONING CASE? IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE Z26-0011 WITH A STIPULATION LIMITING THE PLACEMENT OF THE MOBILE HOME TO THE FUTURE LAND USE AREA DESIGNATED AS AGRICULTURE AND RURAL. ONLY. SECOND. ALL RIGHT, HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSES. AND JUST A REMINDER ON THE REZONING CASES, THEY WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION AT A LATER DATE. AND YOU'LL RECEIVE NOTICE OF THAT. IF YOU WANT TO COME AND HEAR AND DISCUSS AND ASK QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSIONERS. SO COME UP SO I CAN HEAR YOU. YES. THERE'LL BE ANOTHER MEETING TO COME TO. IT'LL BE THE I PRESUME IT'LL BE THE NEXT COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING IN JUNE. AND YOU'LL. SINCE SHE'S THE APPLICANT, SHE'LL RECEIVE NOTIFICATION OF THE MEETING. RIGHT. OKAY. AND DID YOU UNDERSTOOD? JUST ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE SURE OF WHILE YOU'RE HERE. SO WHEN YOU GET IT APPROVED, YOU CAN ONLY PUT ONE MOBILE HOME ON IT. THAT'S THE REGULATION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. OKAY. OUR [Z-26-0012 Southern Natural Gas Company, owner; Jeremy Sharit, SMW Engineering Group; requests a change of zoning to I-1 (Light Industrial) for compliance of an existing warehouse and office building with outside storage, an existing cell tower and a proposed addition of a 2nd warehouse and office building. Property currently zoned I-4 (Industrial Park) & U-2 (Communication). PID#s: 1300151000002000 & 1300154000007000 in Section 15/ Township 16/ Range 2 W. (Site Address: 1501 Meadow Craft Road, Birmingham, 35217)(29.05 Acres+/-)] NEXT REZONING CASE IS Z 260012. THE APPLICANT IS JIMMY SHARRETT. AND THE REQUEST IS A CHANGING OF ZONING TO I-1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL FOR COMPLIANCE OF AN EXISTING WAREHOUSE AND OFFICE BUILDING WITH OUTSIDE STORAGE AND EXISTING CELL TOWER, AND A PROPOSED ADDITION OF A SECOND [00:45:07] WAREHOUSE AND OFFICE BUILDING. THIS IS AT THE ADDRESS OF 1501 MEADOWCROFT ROAD IN BIRMINGHAM. IS THERE ANYONE HERE? I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. CONNIE? YES, SIR. OUTDOOR STORAGE IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE ZONING DISTRICT, SO PRETTY MUCH THE APPLICANT IS BRINGING THE EXISTING PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE OUTSIDE STORAGE, AND THEY'RE PROPOSING AN ADDITION OF ANOTHER WAREHOUSE AND OFFICE BUILDING, AND ALL THAT WILL FALL IN THE I ONE ZONING DISTRICT, AS WELL AS THE CELL TOWER. THE PROPOSED REZONING FROM I FOUR AND U TWO TO I ONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF EMPLOYMENT AND CIVIC CENTER, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THAT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. CONNIE, DOES ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REZONING CASE IS DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE? ALL RIGHT. WELCOME. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE, MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE Z26-0012. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED HEARING? NONE APPROVED. THANK YOU. SO JUST SINCE IT WAS ON THE AGENDA, WE HAD A ZONING CASE Z 260013. AND IT HAS BEEN POSTPONED. SO WE'LL NOT BE HEARING THAT TODAY. WE HAVE ONE [S-26-0017 Francine Hughley and Alma Jenkins Alexander, owners; Roderick Hughley, applicant; Hughley Survey, Five (5) lots proposed, Property zoned A-1 (Agriculture), PID#s 4200083000017000, 4200083000018000, 4200083000019000, 4200083000019001, in Section 08, Twp 20, Range 4W. (Site Addresses 4487, 4501, & 4529 Harper Road; 6881 Edge Street, Bessemer, 35022)(12.4 acres +/-)] OTHER ITEM OF BUSINESS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING IS A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE SUBDIVISION AND CONSTRUCTION REGULATIONS FOR JEFFERSON COUNTY. THE AMENDMENTS INCLUDE TWO ADDITIONAL SUBSECTIONS THAT ADDRESS THE STANDARDS FOR COUNTY ACCEPTANCE OF PREVIOUSLY PRIVATE SUBDIVISION ROADS AND ELIGIBILITY OF OCCUPANCIES FOR UTILITIES WITHIN JEFFERSON COUNTY. RIGHT OF WAYS. AND WE'LL HAVE A QUICK PRESENTATION ON THOSE CHANGES. AND I'M. MY NAME IS JEFF GUNTER, CHIEF CIVIL ENGINEER, ROADS AND TRANSPORTATION. SO YEAH, WE'RE MAKING TWO CHANGES. ONE'S IN ARTICLE FOUR OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. THAT ONE IS ADDRESSING ROAD ACCEPTANCE STANDARDS FOR PRIVATELY PRIVATE SUBDIVISION ROADS. THE SECTION ESTABLISHES A FORMAL PROCESS FOR JEFFERSON COUNTY TO ACCEPT OLDER, PRIVATELY MAINTAINED SUBDIVISION ROADS INTO THE PUBLIC ROAD SYSTEM. AND THE SECOND ONE IS GOING TO BE IN ARTICLE SIX. THE UTILITY SECTION. ELIGIBILITY FOR OCCUPANCY OF COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY. SO THIS SECTION DEFINES WHO MAY OCCUPY OR USE COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY AND UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS. TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. SO ON THAT ONE, THAT ONE THEY'LL HAVE TO BE. SO IT'S EITHER THEY HAVE TO BE A PUBLIC UTILITY OR IF THEY'RE PRIVATE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE IN THE ALABAMA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION'S PURVIEW. ALL, ALL, EVERYBODY, ALL THE UTILITIES, PUBLIC OR PRIVATE, HAVE TO HAVE A RIGHT OF WAY, USE AGREEMENT IN PLACE. SO THAT'S, THAT WAS LANGUAGE THAT WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE IN THE IN THE REGS. SO IT'S JUST A IT'S TO HELP FACILITATE PERMITTING FOR UTILITIES. SO AND I UNDERSTAND THE PRIVATE ROAD PART, THE ADDITION FOR THAT, WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD ANY REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT BEFORE. AND THE ELIGIBILITY FOR OCCUPANCY. WHAT'S THE GENESIS OF ADDING THIS IN IS TO PROTECT OUR ROADS FROM. IT'S MORE LANGUAGE IN THERE DISCUSSING IF THERE'S ANY ROADS THAT ARE DAMAGED, THEY'LL BE FIXED BY THE UTILITIES. OKAY, SO WHAT QUESTION HAVEN'T I ASKED YOU THAT I SHOULD ASK YOU ABOUT THIS CHANGES? WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE MORE MORE INTEREST IN PRIVATE SEWER SYSTEMS COMING TO WHERE JEFFERSON COUNTY SEWER IS NOT AVAILABLE. SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS COMING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THERE'S NO ONE FROM THE PUBLIC LEFT. BUT IS THERE ANY PUBLIC OPPOSITION TO THESE CHANGES TO THE REGULATIONS? I CALL THE QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? I DO HAVE ONE. AND, MR. CHAIRMAN, PLEASE GO AHEAD. I'M NOT I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE DOCUMENT FOR, BUT I DID. IS THERE A LANGUAGE THAT THAT ADDRESSES COST SHARING BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND PROPERTY OWNERS? AS FOR BRINGING IN THIS FOR ADOPTING. THIS WAS PRIVATE ROADS INTO THE COUNTY. I KNOW IT'S BECOME IT BECOMES PUBLIC. IT SOUNDS LIKE. RIGHT. SO IF THE ROADS ARE THE PRIVATE ROADS, WHAT WE'LL DO, WE GOT A PROCESS THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD. IF IT'S IN POOR CONDITION, THEY'RE EITHER GOING TO HAVE TO FIX THE ROAD. THE HOMEOWNER'S [00:50:02] ASSOCIATION WOULD HAVE TO FIX THE ROADS OR WE WOULD NOT ACCEPT IT. SO IS THERE A PROVISION FOR THEM TO REIMBURSE THE COUNTY UP FRONT TO BRING THEM UP TO SPEC? SHOULD THERE BE? NO. IT SHOULD. I MEAN, WE'LL TELL THEM WHAT THE DEFICIENCIES POSSIBLY ARE. SO THEY'LL HAVE A A LIST OF DEFICIENCIES. OKAY. IS IT IN OUR BENEFIT. IS THIS PROTECTING US OR IS IT BENEFITING US BY DOING THIS OR BOTH. I THINK IT HELPS BOTH. THERE'S AN AVENUE FOR THE PRIVATE ROAD, ROAD FOLKS TO HAVE AN AVENUE FOR US TO TAKE IT OVER, BUT IT'S JUST GOT TO BE. THE ROADS HAVE TO BE IN PRETTY GOOD CONDITION. WHAT'S THE PRO IN US TAKING OVER A PRIVATE ROAD? THE PUBLIC THAT LIVES IN THAT SUBDIVISION WON'T HAVE TO DRIVE OVER. POSSIBLY POTHOLES. AND THEY WON'T. IT WON'T GET MAINTAINED LIKE IT SHOULD BE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF ON THIS. WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. ARE WE APPROVING? APPROVING? OKAY. SO WE'RE THE FINAL APPROVING BODY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. I SURE GOT THAT RIGHT. MAY I HAVE A MOTION ON THESE CHANGES? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THE AMENDMENT CHANGES TO ARTICLE FOUR, THE SURETIES FOR COMPLETION AND MAINTENANCE OF IMPROVEMENTS. I HAVE A SECOND. ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE STOP. HANG ON. THERE'S ALSO ADDITION TO SIX, ARTICLE FOUR AND ARTICLE SIX. ALL RIGHT. WILL YOU AMEND YOUR MOTION TO INCLUDE ARTICLE SIX OH, ARTICLE FOUR, AND ARTICLE SIX OF THE SURETIES FOR COMPLETION AND MAINTENANCE OF IMPROVEMENTS. AND THERE'S A TITLE FOR ARTICLE SIX. SHOULD HAVE TOLD ME THAT UTILITY PLACEMENT WITH THE COUNTY RIGHT AWAY. CAN WE MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN WE HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ON ARTICLE SIX EXCLUSIVELY? I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT. FOUR BUT WHAT IS THE. WHAT ARE THE IMPACTS OF. SIX? MY QUESTIONS WERE ABOUT. SIX. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO START OVER WITH THE MOTION AMENDMENT HERE. OKAY, I GOT YOU. OKAY. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENTS TO ARTICLE FOUR AND ARTICLE SIX, ARTICLE FOUR BEING THE SURETIES FOR COMPLETION AND MAINTENANCE OF IMPROVEMENTS AND ARTICLE SIX BEING THE ELIGIBILITY FOR OCCUPANCY. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION. SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ANYONE O * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.