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MORNING EVERYONE. GOOD. GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE TODAY. SEEMS LIKE IT'S BEEN A MONTH SINCE WE'VE MET. BUT I KNOW IT HASN'T. SO. KELLY, NOT YOU. TELL US. SUMMERTIME. THE LINK TO THIS AGENDA THAT WE HAVE TO. SO I KNOW WE HAVE A ONGOING PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON TO, TO GET THAT DONE. SO, LET'S BEGIN WITH WORK, RIGHT? DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THE BEAUTIFUL WEATHER. THANK YOU FOR THE HELP THAT YOU'VE GIVEN ME. COMMISSION THE WORKERS.
THANK YOU FOR THE DEDICATION OF OF OUR STAFF AND OUR AND OUR COMMISSION. LORD, WE ALSO THANK YOU FOR THE CITIZENS THAT WE HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO SERVE. WE TRULY, TRULY ENJOY WHAT WE DO.
AND YOU JUST DON'T KNOW THAT, THE JOY THAT, THAT WE HAVE WHEN WE SEE A SMILE ON PEOPLE'S FACE.
DEAR LORD, YOU'VE GIVEN US THE TOOLS IN WHICH TO DO THE JOB. DEAR LORD, GIVE US THE WISDOM, THE STRENGTH, THE COURAGE AND GUIDANCE TO GET THE JOB DONE. WE ASK ALL THESE THINGS IN JESUS NAME. AMEN. AMEN. THAT WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. I'VE SEEN I HAD A, A TRAFFIC LIGHT THAT WAS KNOCKED DOWN WAS THAT SUNDAY MORNING. IT WAS SATURDAY, SATURDAY. IT WAS ALMOST, ALMOST SATURDAY MORNING. AND, IT, IT BLOCKED MORGAN ROAD, WHICH 20,000 CARS A DAY AND, ALL THAT THEY WERE DOING, THE, THE CITY WAS DOING, WAS GOING OUT, DOING TRAFFIC CONTROL, TRYING TO GET THEM AROUND SOMETHING. I'LL CALL CHRIS AND I'LL CALL CAL. AND WITHIN A FEW MINUTES THEY WERE OUT THERE AND THEY WORKED TILL DARK AND REPLACE THAT TRAFFIC CONTROL LIGHT DID A GOOD JOB. SO, THE DEDICATION THAT THEY HAD AND SPEND THE WEEKEND OUT DOING THAT. OH.
SURELY, CERTAINLY DO APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, CHRIS. YES, SIR. LET'S BEGIN
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WITH DISTRICT FIVE. WE HAVE US STILL HERE WITH, WITH OUR ANNOUNCEMENT, I THINK I'D LIKE TO DO THAT FIRST. MR. PRESIDENT, COMMISSIONER, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, IT'S A SPECIAL ONE FOR ME. I'M THE PRODUCT OF A MAN THAT CAME BACK FROM WORLD WAR TWO AND WORKED IN THE OPEN HEARTH OF U.S. STEEL UNTIL THE DAY THAT HE DIED. SO MY FIRST JOB WAS LIFTING STEEL ON TCI.SO I AM SO VERY GLAD THAT OUR GROUP, INCLUDING JEFF. BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE GOT TOGETHER AND WERE GOING TO BRING IT BACK. AND IT'S GOOD FOR FAIRFIELD, IT'S GOOD FOR JEFFERSON COUNTY, IT'S GOOD FOR THE STATE OF ALABAMA. AND I COULDN'T BE MORE PLEASED ON THE DAY TO BE HERE.
SO, JEFF, IF YOU WOULD LEAD IT OFF AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ABATEMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN JEFFERSON COUNTY AND UNITED STATES STEEL. SURE THING. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WHEN YOU TOLD ME YOU WORKED AT U.S. STEEL FOR A BIT, DID YOU TELL ME THAT THE WORKERS OUT THERE, AFTER THE FIRST DAY, TOLD YOU YOU NEEDED TO GO TO LAW SCHOOL? THE FIRST DAY I WENT OUT THERE, OF COURSE, MY DAD WAS HE WAS A GIANT. HE PLAYED FOOTBALL ALL THE TIME. HE WAS IN COLLEGE.
EVERYBODY RAZZED HIM. AND I'M OUT THERE LIFTING. AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S ANOTHER GUY FROM INDUSTRY. WE'RE JUST SWEATING AND, YOU KNOW, WORKING. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS BIG VEHICLE COMES SLIDING IN ON THE GRAVEL, COMES AROUND, YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST HUMANS I'VE EVER SEEN GOT OUT OF THAT VEHICLE. AND THEY CAME OVER TO MY FRIEND AND THEY SAID, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A BOY NAMED BOLEN. AND HE QUICKLY SAID, THAT'S HIM OVER THERE. AND THEY CAME OVER THERE AND THEY CIRCLED ME AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, BOY, WE WE KNOW YOU'RE NEW HERE. WE'RE HERE TO WHIP YOUR BUTTER CUP. AND I THOUGHT, WHAT HAVE I DONE? AND BEEN OUT HERE 30 MINUTES AND NOW I'M ALREADY IN TROUBLE. AND THEY STARTED EASING IN LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. AND THEN ONE OF THEM GOT TICKLED, STARTED LAUGHING, AND
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THEY SAID, WE CAN'T WHIP YOUR OLD MAN. WE JUST WANTED TO COME OVER HERE AND FIND SOMEBODY AND THEN WE COULD. WELL, I STARTED ME OUT AT U.S. STEEL, BUT I TIMT SUMMER, I LIFTED SO MANY THINGS OF STEEL BACK AND TOOK EXTRA COURSES AT STANFORD AND AND THEN WENT TO LAW SCHOOL. I DIDN'T I DIDN'T WANT MY DADDY TO GET ME ANOTHER JOB THERE. YOU LASTED AT U.S. STEEL ABOUT LONG AS I LASTED AT THE SHIPYARD. FINALLY GOT TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND DO SOMETHING.WELL, TODAY WE GOT A REQUEST FROM THE US FOR A TAX ABATEMENT RELATED TO A NEW PROJECT THEY ARE PROPOSING FOR THE FAIRFIELD WORKS. FAIRFIELD IS LOOKING AT, CONSTRUCTING A NEW FACILITY AND EQUIPPING IT THAT WILL SUPPORT, THEIR, THEIR TWO OPERATIONS THERE WENT INTO OPERATION.
THEY'LL ASK ME WHAT THAT MEANS. PAUL HERE IS, AN EXPERT WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU SOME MORE DETAILS ON THAT. THE PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO CREATE 152 NEW JOBS WITH AN AVERAGE WAGE OF 35, 36 AN HOUR, WITH A CAPITAL INVESTMENT OF $463 MILLION. AT THIS POINT, I'LL ASK PAUL VIRTUE, WOULD YOU HAVE STILL TO GET UP A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROJECT AND WE'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE? HEY. GOOD MORNING. IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE WITH YOU ALL TODAY.
I APPRECIATE BEING BACK. AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY. AND, COMMISSIONER BOWLIN, I HEAR A LOT OF STORIES LIKE THAT. U.S. STEEL HAS OBVIOUSLY A VERY LONG HISTORY WITH THE CITY OF BIRMINGHAM. AND WITH OUR RECENT MERGER WITH NIPPON, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE YEARS OF PROFITABILITY AND NEW PROJECTS. SO WHEN I WAS WITH YOU LAST, I TOLD YOU THAT WE WERE HOPEFUL THAT WE WOULD HAVE SOME MORE PROJECTS. AND SO WE'RE BACK TODAY ABOUT A REALLY EXCITING PROJECT, WHICH IS CALLED OUR QUENCHING TEMP. AND I'M NOT A METALLURGICAL EXPERT OR ANYTHING, BUT I'LL GIVE YOU A LAYMAN'S EXPLANATION OF THAT. SO U.S. STEEL CAN FORM MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF STEEL. HERE IN FAIRFIELD, WE HAVE OUR, OUR, OUR FLAT ROLL PROJECT WITH STEEL. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE OUR TUBULAR PROJECT OIL COUNTRY TUBULAR PRODUCT. AND SO THIS WOULD BE USED FOR THE OLD COUNTRY TUBULAR PRODUCT. BUT WHAT IT DOES, IT'S AN INDUSTRIAL PROCESS THAT THAT ALTERS THE MICROSTRUCTURE OF STEEL. SO IN OTHER WORDS, SOME CLIENTS WANT THEIR STEEL TO BE A CERTAIN STRENGTH OR HARDNESS. AND SO THIS WILL ACTUALLY ALLOW US TO DO THAT HERE AT FAIRFIELD INSTEAD OF SHIPPING IT OUT SOMEWHERE ELSE AND HAVING TO DO THAT. SO IT JUST BRINGS MORE JOBS IN. IT ENSURES THAT FAIRFIELD WILL REMAIN A VIABLE OPERATION FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. SO, I CAN GO A LITTLE BIT INTO MORE DETAIL IF YOU WANT TO, BUT THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE GIST OF IT. JUST LIKE I SAID LAST TIME, WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE PROJECTS HERE, YOU KNOW, COMING DOWN THE PIKE TO, OUR, OUR MERGER WITH THE POND HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, WE WENT FROM THE 24TH LARGEST STEEL COMPANY IN THE WORLD TO THE THIRD OR FOURTH, DEPENDING ON WHO YOU LOOK AT LARGEST STEEL COMPANY IN THE WORLD. SO WE REALLY JUMPED UP A LOT. BUT THAT MERGER ALSO MEANS THERE'S A LOT MORE MONEY THAT U.S. STEEL HAS FOR INVESTMENT, FOR COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES AND OTHER, OTHER, OTHER EXCITING THINGS THAT REALLY BENEFIT AND BENEFIT COMMUNITIES. SO WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY IN BIRMINGHAM AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. I'M EXCITED TO CONTINUE IT. SO THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. I MOVED THE PROJECT SECOND, BUT LET ME ASK YOU SAY THIS IS A WHAT IT'S CALLED A QUENCH AND TEMP FACILITY. SO BASICALLY YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN IT. JOE. STEEL COMES OFF THE LINE. IT'S HOT. THEY DUMP IT IN, YOU KNOW, A BUNCH OF WATER AND STEAMS UP AND YOU GET, YOU KNOW, YOU GET ALL SORTS OF IT'S PRETTY COOL TO WATCH, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S METALLURGIC METALLURGICAL, SCIENCE THAT'S INVOLVED IN ALL THAT, BUT THAT REALLY CONTROLS THE STRENGTH, THE TENSILE STRENGTH OF THE STEEL. AND THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU GOT TO THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT A PROJECT. BUT THE BIGGER THING, I THINK IS THAT IT'S HERE IN FAIRFIELD. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT KEEPS MORE JOBS. AND, AND WE KEEP THINGS LOCAL HERE IN BIRMINGHAM. GOOD, GOOD. I WANT TO SAY, PAUL, I'M VERY EXCITED. WE KNEW THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD BE COMING UP. GLAD THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE LIVABLE WAGE JOBS THROUGHOUT JEFFERSON COUNTY, EVEN THOUGH, IT HAPPENS TO BE IN, IN MY DISTRICT, IT HAS BEEN AMAZING FOR JEFFERSON COUNTY EMPLOYMENT.
THIS PARTICULAR JOB I SEE HAS AN AVERAGE WAGE OF $35 AN HOUR. AND FOR THE RECORD, I KIND OF JOIN YOU, COMMISSIONER BOLEN AND MY HUSBAND JUST RETIRED FROM U.S. STEEL. AND, AND ONE THING I CAN SAY, THERE HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD STEWARDS OF BEING ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR EMPLOYEES. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU MORE THAN, YOU KNOW. AND AS IT RELATES TO, WITH COMMUNITY PROJECTS, I WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD AS SAYING THAT THEY HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY GOOD PARTNERS, FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT THEIR BUSINESS, IS LOCATED. I MEAN, AND THAT
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THAT MEANS A LOT. AND THEY'VE BEEN CONSISTENT. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO COME OUT AS IT RELATES TO THAT. AND, PAUL, I JUST LOOK FORWARD TO, THE GROWTH AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE CAN HELP PROVIDE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO INCENTIVIZE IT. ABSOLUTELY. SO IT'S ALREADY BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. AND YOU CAN MOVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. AND LET'S SEE. NEXT WE MOVE INTO INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE DO. WE DO HAVE SOMEONE HERE. THIS IS A MOTOROLA AGREEMENT WHICH COMBINES THE PREVIOUS ISSUE, A TWO AND THE MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO TELL? IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME THING, COMMISSIONER. IT'S APPROVAL FOR ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL, FOR COMBINING OUR MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS FOR ALL OF MOTOROLA, FOR HARDWARE. AND IT'S A MULTI-YEAR CONTRACT. I MOVED. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE A MOTION TO. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU DOCTOR. ALL RIGHT. NOW WE MOVE OVER TO, COMMUNITY GRANTS. I HAVE, SIX OF THEM. I MEAN, SIX, THAT'S SIX. SIX. I MEAN, ONE TWO AND FOUR, FIVE SIX. OKAY. YEAH. GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, FOR LETTING US GO FORTH TODAY. AND THAT TAKES CARE OF DISTRICT FIVE. GREAT. JOE, YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD WITH YOUR. GO AHEAD, MISS DIXON.
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GOOD MORNING. COMMISSIONERS. WE HAVE EIGHT ITEMS TODAY. UNUSUAL DEMAND REPORT. THE ENCUMBRANCE REPORT, THE PURCHASING EXCEPTION REPORT, THE PURCHASING AGENDA REPORT, AND THE PROCUREMENT CARD STATEMENT FOR JEFFERSON CREDIT UNION. WE HAVE A MOTION ON ONE THROUGH EIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. UNDER BUDGET MANAGEMENT OFFICE WE HAVE MULTIPLE STAFF DEVELOPMENT, INDIVIDUAL STAFF DEVELOPMENT AND A FEW INFORMATION ITEMS. DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE ITEM? I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES, MR. MORRISON. YES, SIR. FIRST ITEM THAT WE GOT. IT'S NOT FOR PUBLIC HEARING. IT'S JUST A TRANSFER OF EVERYONE. I'LL PUT IT IN WATER AT A LOCATION OUT ON WARRIOR, THE ROAD AND MCCLAIN ROAD. THIS IS AN ESTABLISHED GAS STATION. THEY'VE HAD A LONG HISTORY OF.OFFERING OF SALES. WHAT'S GOING ON IS THE ENTITY THAT IS CURRENTLY IS CURRENTLY LICENSED, IS LICENSED FOR THE SITE CONSISTS OF TWO BUSINESS PARTNERS. AND WHAT'S HAPPENED IS ONE OF THE PARTNERS HAS DROPPED OUT. SO THEY'VE HAD TO CHANGE THE, THE CORPORATION AND THUS HAD TO APPLY FOR THE TRANSFER OF BEVERAGE LICENSE. SO IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO THE SAME PERSON THAT'S BEEN RUNNING IT ALL THIS TIME. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? DO I HAVE A MOTION? WELL, THE ITEM A MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. Z 260015. AGAIN THIS IS A REQUEST FOR COMPLIANCE. THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL THAT'S ACTUALLY ON THIS PROPERTY THAT'S SOUTH OF FULTONDALE AREA. AND AGAIN IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED I3S WHICH USED TO ALLOW SEVERAL, SEVERAL YEARS AGO ALLOWED FOR RESIDENCES. EVERYTHING WAS PYRAMID UP TO THAT PARTICULAR ZONING CLASSIFICATION. BUT SINCE THEN THE RULES HAVE CHANGED AND IT DOESN'T. SO THIS IS JUST AGAIN, JUST TO BRING THE RESIDENTS INTO COMPLIANCE. IT'S THE REASON MOST OF THE PROPERTY TO E ONE AGRICULTURE, WHICH IS WHAT SORT OF AROUND WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. I'M SORRY WHAT'S WITHIN THE COUNTY LIMITS. ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. Z 260016. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. IT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM UAB MEDICAL WEST. IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED A-1 AGRICULTURE. THE APPLICANT HAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED REZONING THE PROPERTY TO C1 COMMERCIAL. WE WENT THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS. AND AT THE PUBLIC HEARING THE APPLICANT SAID THAT STATED THAT IT WOULD BE OKAY TO REZONE IT. DO WE HAVE A NEW ZONING CLASSIFICATION CALLED INSTITUTIONAL FOR WHICH IS GEARED TOWARDS MORE SUPPORT, ANCILLARY SERVICES FOR THE, FOR THE HOSPITAL BASE AS OPPOSED TO JUST BROAD COMMERCIAL ZONING. AND THEY AGREED TO THAT. AND THEN PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED REZONE THE PROPERTY TO INSTITUTIONAL FOR ZONING CLASSIFICATION IN LIEU OF THE ORIGINALLY REQUESTED C-1. ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION? WELL, DO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. Z 260017. YES.
THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT'S OWNED BY THE AMOUNT OF VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THEY'VE DONE SOME RECENT LAND SWAPS WITH THE ADJACENT CEMETERY PROPERTY. AND THIS IS
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JUST TO BRING ALL OF THE HOLDINGS OF THE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT UNDER ONE ZONING CLASSIFICATION. MOVED. SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. GENERAL SERVICES, MISS HILL. GOOD MORNING. COMMISSIONERS. GENERAL SERVICES HAS. I THINK WE HAVE EIGHT ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THIS MORNING. OUR FIRST ITEM IS THE ARCHITECT AGREEMENT WITH CCR FOR THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE FROM THE CJC TO THE 2121 BUILDING.ITEM TWO IS AN AMENDMENT FOR LANDSCAPE SERVICES FOR THE CORONER'S OFFICE TO INCLUDE IRRIGATION AND PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE. ITEM NUMBER THREE AND FOUR ARE THE COMMISSIONING AGENT FOR PHASES TWO AND THREE OF THE 2121 BUILDING INTERIOR RENOVATION. PHASE TWO INCLUDES THE WINDOWS AND THE COURTHOUSE AND THE CARD SECTION AND SECURITY. PHASE THREE IS THE PERSONNEL BOARD FLOORS TWO, NINE AND TEN. ITEM FIVE IS FEMA, WHICH IS OUR BAS FOR THE HVAC SYSTEM. THIS IS COVERING BUILDINGS FOR THE CORONER, ANIMAL CARE, DOMESTIC RELATIONS, CENTER .2121 BUILDING AND THE COURTHOUSE. ITEM SIX IS TEST AND BALANCE FOR DOMESTIC RELATIONS. ITEM SEVEN IS THE REPLACEMENT OF FOUR NOTIFIER FIRE ALARM PANELS, WHICH ARE OBSOLETE. THOSE ARE FOR THE BESSEMER ANNEX, BIRMINGHAM COURTHOUSE, BESSEMER JUSTICE CENTER FAMILY COURT, AND ITEM EIGHT IS THE REPLACEMENT OF THE OBSOLETE FIRE ALARM PANEL AT THE 2121 BUILDING. ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS. SEEING NONE. MOTION A SECOND. SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. FOR OTHER BUSINESS, I HAVE 4 OR 5 ITEMS. ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE. HAVE A MOTION. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. THANK YOU. AND MY REPORT. OH THREE ADMINISTRATIVE INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE. I HAVE TWO ITEMS ON ROADS AND
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TRANSPORTATION. AN EASEMENT ON DOWN AT CUNNINGHAM CREEK SUBSTATION AND A QUITCLAIM SEWER EASEMENT. DRHD OVER ONE AND TWO SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS A MINUTES FROM THE MEETING OF JULY THE 23RD. I'LL MOVE AND I'LL. SOMEONE NEED TO MOVE.EITHER THAT OR WE GET A LEASH TO READ THEM. OKAY. I SECOND MOTION SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. NEXT IS MOU FOR THE SALE OF 2DEAB MOU. REGARDING SILVERSCRIPT. DO I NEED A MOTION? I HAVE A QUESTION, A MOVE. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. AND WHAT IS OUR QUESTION. WHY IS IT THAT. I KNOW THE EXPLANATION WITH THE BACKUP PAPERS OF THE $11 MILLION AND WE'RE GOING TO SELL IT IF IT IS ESTIMATED RIGHT AT 11 MILLION, WE'RE GIVING IT TO THEM FOR EIGHT. AND BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO TEAR IT DOWN. AND IF THAT'S WHAT IT APPRAISED FOR, WHY WOULD WE CUT A DEAL WITH YOU, A B FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE ALWAYS GIVING THEM MONEY AND THEY ARE ALREADY OVER THERE, RUNNING AGROUND. BUT IF IT, IF THIS IS THE PRICE, THEY EITHER TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND AND I KNOW THEY SAY THE PROPERTY IS MORE VALUABLE WITH THE BUILDING ALL. WELL THEN IT, THEY EITHER TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. IF NOT, SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE THAT'S WILLING TO BUY IT OR LEASE IT OUT. BECAUSE THAT MONEY IS GOING TOWARD YOUTH DETENTION AND WE NEED ALL THE MONEY WE CAN GET. I HEARD THAT SAME CONVERSATION WITH CAL LAST WEEK WAS FOR, AND HE GAVE ME THE EXPLANATION. LET'S HEAR FROM YOU. WELL, SO, A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION. THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN US AND YOU, YOU A, B HAD A SPECIFIC METHOD FOR US TO DETERMINE HOW THE
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VALUE OF THE HOSPITAL. THEY GOT AN APPRAISER, WE GOT AN APPRAISER. OUR APPRAISAL CAME IN AT 11.197 MILLION. THEIR APPRAISAL CAME IN AT 9.6 MILLION. NOW OUR APPRAISAL, THAT VALUE TO GET AT THAT HIGH MEANT NO BUILDING ON THE SITE. SO FOR US TO GET 11.9, WE HAD TO COVER THE COST OF THE DEMOLITION OR EITHER YOU HAD TO LEAVE DESTRUCTION ON THE LAND.WE HAD TO GET. YEAH. THEY'RE SAYING WITH THE BUILDING THE APPRAISAL WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH LESS OF A COST BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUMP A BUNCH OF MONEY INTO IT, EITHER RENOVATE IT OR DEMOLISH IT. SO STARTING OFF AT 11.19 AND 9.6, THEY HAD 9.6. WE HAD 11.19. AND AFTER MUCH DISCUSSIONS, THEY CAME UP TO 10.7. SO WE FELT PRETTY GOOD ABOUT THAT. BUT WE STILL HAD TO DEAL WITH THE DEMOLITION COST. SO WE DID AN ESTIMATE AND THEY DID AN ESTIMATE. THEIR ESTIMATE WAS 2.9 MILLION. OUR ESTIMATE WAS 2.7. SO IF YOU TAKE THE. AGREED UPON APPRAISAL VALUE 10.7, WHICH WAS THE HIGHER VALUE OF THE TWO APPRAISALS. AND YOU SUBTRACT THE DEMOLITION COST, YOU COME UP WITH THE 7.88 MILLION. SO THE KEY ISSUE IS OUR APPRAISAL AND THEIR THEIR APPRAISER SAID THE PROPERTY IS ONLY WORTH X AMOUNT. WITH THE BUILDING GONE, THE BUILDING WAS MORE OF A HAZARD THAN A THAN ANY KIND OF VALUE. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE PAPERWORK IN OUR AGREEMENT WITH UAB STATED, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW WE DETERMINE THE PRICE. IF WE CAN'T AGREE ON THIS PRICE, THE NEXT STEP IN THE AGREEMENT STATES, EACH APPRAISER, THE ONE WE HIRED, THE ONE THEY HIRED, THEY AGREE ON A THIRD APPRAISER TO HIRE, AND THEN THEY WILL TELL US THE PRICE OF THE LAND AND THE DEMOLITION. SO WE FEEL, YOU KNOW, WE MAY NOT BE GETTING THE BEST DEAL, BUT WE'RE KIND OF GETTING ALL WE ALL WE CAN GET. BUT BUT WE'RE NOT AT THE STAGE WHERE WE, WE SHOULD TAKE WHAT WE CAN GET. NOT A WE OWN THE PROPERTY. I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THEN YOU GOT TO TURN AROUND.
THEY CAN TURN AROUND AND ASK FOR TWO 200 MORE THOUSAND DOLLARS IF THEY FEEL LIKE IT.
IT'S ALWAYS WHAT THEY FEEL LIKE, WHAT THEY WANT FROM US. IT'S ALWAYS. WE ALREADY GIVING THEM SOMETHING FOR THE FOOTBALL FIELD. WE'RE GIVING THEM SOMETHING FOR THE PRACTICE, OUR STADIUM, WE'RE GIVING, GIVING, GIVING. AND THEY ARE THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY GOT A LOT OF MONEY OVER THERE CONSTANTLY BUILDING. AND WE NEED THIS FUNDING FOR YOUTH DETENTION. BUT WE STILL ARE. WE STILL ARE $50 MILLION SHORT ON YOUTH DETENTION, BUT WE STILL GOT ENOUGH ROOM TO TRY TO GET HIM SOME MONEY. I SAID, GET THE THIRD APPRAISAL. AND IF THEY DON'T WANT WHAT WE WANT TO SELL IT FOR, THEY CAN GO ON AND WE CAN SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE THAT WANT IT. BECAUSE I CAN GUARANTEE YOU YOU CAN SELL THAT BUILDING FOR MORE THAN WHAT THEY WILLING THEY ARE TO, TO, TO GIVE US FOR $8 MILLION. THAT'S PRIME PROPERTY. WHAT DO WE PAY FOR OUR APPRAISERS? I BELIEVE WE PAID ABOUT 300 000. CHRIS. ROUGHLY. THERE YOU GO. THEY HAVE OFFERED FIRST REFUSAL.
YOU NEED TO SAY THAT WE DIDN'T LET THEM REFUSE OUR OFFER. AND WE GO AND GET SOMEBODY ELSE.
AND THEN. AND THEN THEY CAN TURN AROUND AND CHARGE US 200 MORE THOUSAND DOLLARS. THAT'S WHAT MAKES ME JUST REALLY JUST TICKS ME OFF. EVEN AFTER THIS SALE, THEY CAN COME BACK AND SAY THAT WE WANT 200 MORE THOUSAND DOLLARS. FOR WHAT? WELL, WE PUT WE PUT THAT IN BECAUSE THEY NOBODY HAD A TRUE COST OF THE DEMOLITION AT THIS POINT. AND THEY WERE SAYING, WELL, THE DEMOLITION MIGHT BE MUCH HIGHER. AND WE WE SAID, WELL, WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT OUR ESTIMATE. SO WE AGREED. OKAY, WELL, YOU BID IT OUT IF IT'S. LET ME SEE IF IT COMES IN AT X AMOUNT, THE LOWER COST THAN GRADE. IF IT COMES IN MUCH HIGHER, ALL WE WOULD PAY IS ONLY 200 000 MORE. SO THAT GAVE THEM A LITTLE BIT OF COMFORT TO GET THROUGH TO THEIR BOARD. AND IT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT BETTER LOW END IF WE HAPPEN TO GET A BETTER LAWYER, WHICH WHO KNOWS HOW THAT WILL TURN OUT. SO WHAT'S THE BASIC COST OF TEARING THIS THING DOWN? THE BASIC COST. AND CHRIS HELPED ME OUT. OUR ESTIMATE WAS 2.88 MILLION. THEIR THEIR ESTIMATE
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WAS 2.918 MILLION. AND A LOT OF THAT IS ABATEMENT OF ASBESTOS AND OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVE SUBSTANCES OR MATERIALS. DO WE HAVE ANY ACTIVITY GOING ON THERE NOW? DO WE STILL HAVE TO RUN THE AIR AND THE BOILERS AND ALL THAT? WE YEAH, WE STILL HAVE TO KEEP SOME STUFF GOING TO KEEP IT FIRE WATCH, AND WATER AND, AND PEOPLE WATCHING OVER TO MAKE SURE WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE ANNUAL COST OR WHAT'S THE MONTHLY COST FOR JUST KEEPING IT.COMMISSIONER, I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER. I HAD IT, I CAN GET IT FOR YOU AFTER THE AFTER THE MEETING. YOU KNOW, AND, ONE COMMISSIONER, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED AND SENT THEM OUR HEY, LET'S GET THIS STARTED. I TOLD THEM WE HAD SPENT SEVERAL MILLION ON THE CANCER CENTER DONATED TO UAB. WE HELPED THEM WITH THE BASKETBALL COURT. AND Y'ALL INVESTED A LOT IN UAB.
AND I TOLD THEM WE WERE USING WHAT WE MADE TO GO ON YOUTH DETENTION. AND IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATE THERE'S BASED ON THE DEED. AND THEN THE AGREEMENT IS CLEARLY SET OUT.
THIS IS THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN SET THE PRICE. SO I AGREE, MISS TYSON, I HEAR YOU.
UNFORTUNATELY WE HAD A CLEAR PATH ON HOW TO DO THE PRICE. I BELIEVE IF WE GOT A THIRD APPRAISER, WE'D DO A LITTLE WORSE THAN WE GOT HERE. BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S YOUR OPTION. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, WE'RE PAYING FOR UTILITIES EVERY SECOND THAT WE DON'T, DON'T FINISH. SO LET ME ASK THIS. WELL, IT SOUNDS TO ME. BUT I WANT IT TO BE FOR THE RECORD, WE OPERATING WITHIN THE CONFINES OF A CONTRACT THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED BY THIS COMMISSION. IS THAT RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. SO WE IF WE'RE LOOKING AT HISTORICAL FACTS, THEN THAT TELLS ME THAT THOSE WHO VOTED FOR IT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE'S NO NEED IN COMPLAINING ABOUT IT NOW. NOT NOT IF THE HORSE IS ALREADY OUT THE BARN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE AGREEMENT IS WITH THE AGREEMENT WAS WHICH SAYS THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I ALWAYS FELT THAT UAB HAD THE UPPER HAND ON THE COMMISSION, EVEN WITH THE LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED, TO ENABLE THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO SO.
RIGHT. OKAY. SO AT THIS POINT, IT SEEMED LIKE THE NUMBERS ARE BOTTOM SIDE UP. SO IF WE SAY ONE NUMBER, THEN UAB COMES BACK AND SAID IT'S VALUED AT X. THEN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING OF THE DEMOLITION, THEN THEIR COST IS HIGHER THAN OUR COST. SO THEN THEREFORE WHEN YOU DO THE MATH, THEN THE MATH SAYS THAT IT'S STILL GOING TO BE FAVORABLE IN THEIR REGARD BECAUSE YOU WANT A BID AT A LOWER PRICE. YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE DEMOLITION IS GOING TO BE HIGHER THAN WHAT WE CAME IN AT. AND SO THIS NUMBER THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY REALLY DOES NOTHING BUT AFFIRM WHAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED BY THIS COMMISSION. SO IT'S UNFORTUNATE, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I NOTED AS SAYING SUCH, BECAUSE I KNEW THAT THIS DAY WAS GOING TO COME.
BUT THE FURTHER WE GET INTO THIS DEAL, WE ALREADY OUTNUMBERED ON THE BOARD. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, I MEAN, I GET IT, BUT IF YOU ARE THINKING THAT IT'S GOING TO COME IN LOWER THAN WHAT WE ARE TODAY, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE ALL OF THIS SEEMS TO WORK AGAINST THE COUNTY'S INTEREST. AM I RIGHT? IN MY ASSESSMENT? I THINK YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD. OKAY.
SO, CHRIS, DID I MISS ANYTHING? THE ONE REASON THE DEMOLITION IS EXPENSIVE IS THE BUILDING WAS BUILT IN THE TIME OF ASBESTOS. IT'S GOT ASBESTOS IN IT. IT'S IN TIGHT QUARTERS.
ANOTHER PLUS, WE'RE TAKING NO RESPONSIBILITY, NO LIABILITY, NO PERMITTING. THEY'RE TAKING ALL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE DEMOLITION AND ALL THE LIABILITY. SO, THAT'S A GOOD THING. SO THIS THIS CONTRACT RIGHT HERE, WAS IT APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION OR THE BOARD? THE THE AGREEMENT, THE AGREEMENT IN TERMS OF SALE WERE APPROVED BY BOTH. THE AGREEMENT TO THE TERMS WAS THAT WE BOTH HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN APPRAISAL TO DETERMINE THE FAIR MARKET VALUE. SO THERE WAS NO UPPER HAND EITHER WAY. AND AS CAL MENTIONED, OUR APPRAISAL WAS HIGHER THAN THEIRS. AND SO WHEN WE HAVE PRETTY MUCH AS THE AVERAGE NUMBER TWO, I JUST KIND OF WANT EVERYBODY TO REMEMBER THAT WHEN WE WERE ORIGINALLY OPERATING OUT OF THAT BUILDING,
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THAT BUILDING CAUSED A SERIOUS ISSUES. IT WAS, IT WAS OLD, TOO MUCH. IT'S PRETTY MUCH PRETTY MUCH WAS NOT USABLE FOR ANYTHING. AND SO THIS IS KIND OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH A LOT OF SITUATIONS WHERE WE HAVE ABATEMENT OF OLD HOMES AND THAT KIND OF THING WHERE THE PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY WORTH MORE WITH THE, THE STRUCTURE OFF OF IT THAN IT IS ON IT. AND THAT'S THE CASE THAT WE HAVE NOW. AND THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT USING THIS MONEY TO ASSIST WITH OUR BUILDING, IF WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE TROUBLE OF WE'RE NOT IN TROUBLE OF DEMOLISHING THIS, THAT'S THE WHOLE PERMITTING ASSUMPTION OF THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE ASBESTOS AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH DESTROYING THE BUILDING. SO ALL THINGS CONSIDERED, I THINK WHERE WE ARE IS PROBABLY THE BEST POSITION WE CAN BE IN. BECAUSE IF YOU ROLL THE DICE FOR THE THIRD APPRAISER, YOU NEVER KNOW HOW THAT COULD SHAKE OUT. AND THAT'S AND THOSE ARE THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT. WELL, WHEN I SEEN THIS CONTRACT AT THE BOARD MEETING, I WAS AGAINST IT. AND I MADE THE SAME STATEMENT. SO. I'M STILL AGAINST IT. I JUST I FEEL LIKE THAT YOU, ABE, IS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE COUNTY IN EVERY WAY THEY CAN WITH EVERYTHING THEY BRING OVER HERE NOW. AND NOW THEY WANT TO THEY WANT A NEW FLOOR OR SOMETHING ELSE. THEY WAS TRYING TO GET A GET OUT OF US. SO, YOU KNOW, WELL, THIS BUILDING WAS BUILT ABOUT 60 YEARS AGO. I UNDERSTAND THAT 72. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S BEEN WE'VE BEEN PAYING, PAYING, PAYING THE BILLS TO KEEP IT OPEN FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS WITH USING ONLY A SMALL PART OF IT. I, I AGREE THAT THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TERMS, BUT I'M FROM MOVING ON AND BEING DONE WITH, WITH THE BUILDING. OKAY. WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS HERE. NUMBER ONE, WE CAN WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND VOTE ON THE AFFIRMATIVE. VOTE ON THAT IN THE NEGATIVE OR RECEIVE A, AN AMENDMENT TO THAT TO DELAY THE SALE AND PUT, PUT IT UP FOR SALE, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S PROBABLY $15,000 A MONTH. IS THAT RIGHT? COUNT IS WHAT WHAT OUR UTILITIES ARE OVER THERE. SO ON OUR EXCESS, IT'S ON OUR INSURANCE. IT'S ON ITS OWN. AND, AND IT BEING ON THE INSURANCE. SO, THERE ARE OPTIONS FOR THE COMMISSION. NONE OF THEM REALLY, ARE. MAKE ME FEEL GOOD. AND I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE FOR, AT LEAST I THINK THE, IF NOTHING ELSE COMES OUT OF, OUT OF THIS DISCUSSION IS THAT YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANT TO BE WILLING PARTNERS IN THIS, BUT IT IS A TWO WAY STREET AND THAT ALL OF THESE DOLLARS THAT WE'RE INVESTING IN UAB, WE NEED WE NEED A RETURN FOR THOSE, AND WE NEED TO HAVE A WILLING PARTNER. WHEN CAL FIRST CAME TO ME WITH THIS, I SAID, WELL, WE, WE PUT MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVER THERE. AND, NOW WE'RE SQUABBLING OVER A COUPLE OF HUNDRED THOUSAND. AND I ASKED CAL TO WRITE A LETTER, AND I THINK HE DID, OR I MADE A CONVERSATION. JUST WHAT I SAID THEN IS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A WILLING PARTNER OVER THERE AND, AND THAT WE HAVE, DONE EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE ASKED FOR TO PROMOTE THE CAMPUS AND TO, TO CREATE JOBS FOR THE COMMUNITY AND TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE CITIZENS. AND THAT'S OUR JOB TO DO. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THEY NEED TO MEET US HALFWAY ON PROJECTS SUCH AS THIS. IF WE APPROVE THIS, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE NEXT PROJECT THAT COMES THERE IS, IS THAT WE DO OUR HOMEWORK BEFOREHAND AND MAKE SURE THAT IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THIS COMMISSION AND ITS CITIZENS. IS IT ANY WAY WE CAN GET, A LIST OF THINGS THAT THEY DO OVER IN THE COMMUNITY, UAB. YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASK, I GUESS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT UAB OR UAB. I DON'T THINK SO. I MEAN, WE CAN ASK I CAN REQUEST. YES, I WOULD[00:35:09]
LIKE TO SEE THAT. YEAH. AND I AIN'T TALKING ABOUT JUST THE SOUTH SIDE. I'M TALKING ABOUT IN THAT AREA ALL THE WAY INTO TITUSVILLE, BECAUSE THAT PROPERTY RUNS ALL THE WAY OVER.WELL, IF WE IF WE GET IT, IT'S NOT GOING TO MATTER BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT'S BEFORE US.
WHAT'S BEFORE US IS WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO AGREE TO SELL THIS PROPERTY. I KNOW, BUT I STILL WANT THAT THAT LIST. AND, AND I MEAN, YOU KNOW, ANY COMMISSIONER CAN MAKE A REQUEST.
I'M NOT DEALING WITH THAT. WHAT I AM WHAT I'M WHAT I'M SAYING IS, AT THE END OF THE DAY, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DOING PAY FOR PLAY. I'M SAYING FROM THE BEGINNING OF WHEN THIS COMMISSION DECIDED TO GO WITH YOU A, B, SO THAT THEY CAN TAKE ON PATIENTS. AND THAT WHOLE PR THING THAT WENT ON THAT I WAS A PART OF. RIGHT. OKAY. THAT'S THE AGREEMENT I'M REFERRING TO THAT I KEEP SAYING FOR THE RECORD, OKAY, SO NOW YOU'RE AT, THE TAIL END OF THIS THING.
YOU'VE GIVEN THEM THE PARKING DECK AND, AND NOW YOU'RE ON TO THIS LAST LITTLE PIECE, WHICH IS COOPER GREEN BUILDING ITSELF. AND THEN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. OKAY. SO, AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT, JIMMY, THAT THAT WE NEED TO GO BACK AND, AND SEE WHAT ALL THE OPTIONS ARE, ARE WE LOOKING TO THE LATEST ITEM IN TERMS OF, UNTIL, I DID THAT DISCUSSION YESTERDAY, ALL I SAID IS THAT WAS OUR OPTIONS THAT WE HAD, WE, WE COULD, WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, WE CAN EITHER APPROVE OR DENY IT OR WE CAN ADD AN AMENDMENT TO IT TO, TO, DELAY IT AND PUT THE BUILDING UP FOR SALE. SEEMS LIKE WE'RE A LONG WAY DOWN THE LINE TO, TO, TO DO THAT. AND SOMETIMES, YOUR FIRST LOSS IS YOUR LEASE LOSS. CARRY THIS ON MUCH FURTHER IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE. WELL, WE COULD, WE COULD KEEP, KEEP DABBLING IN IT AND DABBLING IN IT. AND WE'RE GOING TO SPEND ANOTHER HALF $1 MILLION AND PROBABLY END UP RIGHT BACK WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. I'D CALL FOR THE VOTE. I HAVE A MOTION SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU, AND I APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION ON THAT. THAT, IF IF DOING NOTHING ELSE JUST BROUGHT THAT TO LIGHT THAT THAT WE NEED TO BE A BETTER PARTNER. WE NEED TO EXPECT A BETTER PARTNERSHIP, FROM OUR OTHER STAKEHOLDERS HERE. IT'S ONLY FAIR. UAB IS A SHINING STAR FOR THIS COUNTY. WE CAN TELL BEFORE I CAME, THIS, THIS COMMISSION HAS HELPED THEM A GREAT DEAL TO GET TO WHERE THEY ARE AS A STAR. THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT IN SOME OF THESE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSES AND SOME HAVE NOT. AND BUT WOULDN'T IT BE FAIR TO SAY THAT THIS IS THE LAST PIECE OF, OF ANYTHING THAT THEY WOULD HAVE LEFT TO ASK FOR? YOU NEVER SAY NEVER. OH NO. NO. WHAT. I MEAN, AS LONG AS THEY'RE. YEAH, YEAH. NO, WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF PROPERTY ACQUISITION, DEALING WITH COOPER GREEN, THAT JUST JUST WRAPS ALL THAT UP. YES. CORRECT. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS, THIS, THIS HORSE IS ALL THE WAY OUT THE GATE. AND SO NOW WE. YEAH. WELL, I TELL YOU, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S SHIFT GEARS. YOUR COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER, WERE WELL RECEIVED. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M SPEAKING TO THAT TO SAY THAT THIS IS THE LAST THING. I MEAN, THIS IS FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION. THIS IS THE LAST ACQUISITION THAT THEY WOULD HAVE. SO WE DON'T HAVE NOTHING ELSE FURTHER TO GIVE IN TERMS OF PROPERTY. THAT'S IT. YEAH. SO NOW ANYTHING MOVING FORWARD IS IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NEGOTIATING SOME OF THEIR OTHER ATHLETIC ASSETS OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT THEY MAY BE ASKING FOR, BECAUSE THEY ALREADY GETTING THE INDIGENT CARE FUND.
SO. I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY. CHANGE GEARS, KIDS OUT AT MCADOREY HAVE PLAYING FOOTBALL.
THEY NEED SOME NEW EQUIPMENT. THEY NEED A COOLING FAN. THEY NEED A HYDRATION STATION, THEY NEED SOME, SOME OTHER STUFF. AND I WANT TO GIVE $10,000 TO HELP THEM DO THAT. HOLD ON. I'M LOOKING AT IT. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. COMMISSIONER. THANKS. GOOD
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MORNING. COMMISSIONERS. I WILL SKIP DOWN TO THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES. DOCTOR[00:40:05]
HAMILTON. GOOD MORNING. COMMISSIONERS. THIS MORNING AND COOPERATION AGREEMENT, WITH COOPERATIVE DOWNTOWN MINISTRIES FOR SHELTER PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $40,000 TO BE PAID FOR OUT OF OUR ESG PROGRAM. AN AGREEMENT WITH. ARTSPEAK TO DO, REHABILITATION OF SIX HOMES IN THE EDGEWATER COMMUNITY FOR $150,875. AND THAT WOULD BE PAID FOR OUT OF OUR. SECOND. OH, I'M SORRY. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I I'M SORRY. I WAS READING SOMETHING. OKAY. THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. ANYONE HEARS FROM DANNY CARR'S OFFICE? JUST A SALARY, AGREEMENT TO APPOINT A LACEY AS A DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY BY THE ECR. SECOND. AND WE HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE SHERIFF. ALL RIGHT. SO THE THE ONE THAT'S ON HERE IS, JUST THE SIXTH AMENDMENT TO OUR FOOD AGREEMENT. IT'S THE SAME COMPANY THAT'S BEEN DOING OUR FOOD SERVICE AT THE JAIL SINCE 2020. AND, SO WE, WE, WILL PROBABLY BE REBIDDING THIS NEXT YEAR, BUT THIS WAS JUST AT THE END OF AN AGREEMENT. THEY, WE DECIDED TO EXTEND THEM RATHER THAN PUT IT OUT TO BID BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE TO. WE HAVE A, WE HAVE AN OPTION FOR ANOTHER YEAR WITH THEM. SO THIS IS JUST EXTENDING THAT CONTRACT FOR ANOTHER YEAR. SO THIS IS JUST A TIME ISSUE. THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT. IT WAS WE DID ORIGINALLY DID A THREE YEAR CONTRACT FROM 2023 2026. BUT THEN WE HAD A FOURTH YEAR OPTION ON THERE. SO THIS IS JUST EXTENDING THAT TO A FOURTH. ALTHOUGH SECOND IT'S BEEN FIRST AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. DO WE DO WE GET THE NEW BUSINESS ON THERE. I THINK WE HAVE A SECOND FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. DARREN HELP ME. I KNOW TRYING TO GET AN ITEM OF NEW BUSINESS ON FOR A GRANT THAT NEEDS TO BE SIGNED OFF BY AUGUST 14TH. YEAH, I THINK DID YOU DID YOU GET IT? HEATHER WAS SUPPOSED TO SEND IT. I DON'T I DON'T SEE IT. OKAY.IT WOULD BE. YEAH, IT WOULD BE ON IT WOULD BE ON HER. BUT I DID TALK TO, BRENDA'S NOW. NO, NO, NO, THAT'S NOT IT. THIS IS A GO AHEAD. YEAH. RIGHT. RIGHT. SO THIS IS THIS IS CALLED THE F TAP GRANT. IT'S A IT'S A FEDERAL GRANT THAT WE ACTUALLY WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH ONE PLACE WHERE OUR OFFICE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR SERVING, PROTECTION FROM ABUSE ORDERS IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATIONS. AND OUR DEPUTIES ARE PAID SOME OVERTIME. THERE'S SOME OVERTIME HOURS IN THERE. SO AT ONE PLACE IS HOPING TO EXTEND THIS GRANT FOR TWO MORE YEARS. WE ACTUALLY DID THIS GRANT IN 2024. BUT COMMISSIONER STEVENS AND I THINK ANGELA HAS TO SIGN OFF ON SOME THINGS AS WELL BEFORE AUGUST THE 14TH. AND THIS WOULD JUST GIVE THEM PERMISSION TO SIGN OFF ON EVERYTHING. AND WE HAD TO GET IT DONE BEFORE AUGUST 14TH. OKAY. WAYNE CALLED ME AND I TALKED TO THEO AND DARREN AND EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF IT. IT'S JUST HEATHER'S NOT HERE TO PRESENT. WE MOVE IT TO THE AGENDA, MOVE IT TO THE AGENDA. YES. OKAY, I MOVE. OKAY.
CAN I GET A SECOND? WHAT IS IT? WHAT DOES IT DO? I MEAN, THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF IT.
OKAY. YES. ONE PLACE TO TAKE BACK OVERTIME. THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S IT'S A IT'S A GRANT THAT THE GRANT, MOST OF THE MONEY GOES TO ONE PLACE, BUT WE GET WE'RE A SUB GRANTEE UNDER THE GRANT FTAP IS IT'S BASICALLY IT'S BASICALLY A PROGRAM WORKING TO KEEP FIREARMS OUT OF THE HANDS OF DOMESTIC ABUSERS. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THE FTAP GRANT IS. THERE'S ABOUT EIGHT, ENTITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE THIS GRANT. IT'S THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IS FROM THE OFFICE ON VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN. AND OUR OFFICE GETS A PORTION OF THE MONEY TO PAY OUR DEPUTIES OVERTIME TO GO AND SERVE THESE, PROTECTION FROM ABUSE ORDERS. OKAY, I'LL MAKE SURE WE GET IT. I'LL MOVE TO FOR TWO ITEMS OF NEW BUSINESS. SECOND. OKAY. IT'S BEEN FIRST AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. SO THAT WOULD BE THIS WOULD BE YOUR BRENDA. YES. AND AND THAT ITEM RIGHT THERE I MOVE CAN I GET A MOTION. DO I NEED TO PUT ANOTHER MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR BRENDA BROWN. OKAY. CAN I GET A SECOND. YES, SECOND A SECOND. AND BEFORE WE CARRY THE VOTE, JUST FOR THE RECORD ON THIS ONE, THAT WAS THE DAY THAT, COMMISSIONER STEVENS AND I, AND THERE WAS A NEWS CONFERENCE. MISS HONG, WHO'S THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR SHE APPLIED FOR, THROUGH OUR OFFICE FOR 2500. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT FOR THE RECORD THAT IT IS NOTED THAT WE DID FULFILL WHAT WE SAID IN THAT NEWS CONFERENCE. SHE JUST APPLIED FOR HERS, SEPARATELY. RIGHT. AND SO WE DID FULFILL THAT OBLIGATION. YEAH. ALL IN
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FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. THAT'S THE END OF MY REPORT. MR. THANK YOU SIR. PUBLIC WORKS, COMMUNITY[PUBLIC WORKS, COMMUNITY SERVICES & INTER - GOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS COMMITTEE ]
SERVICES AND INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS. WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES. ONE AND TWO SECOND. OKAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ALL THOSE. LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING I. WE HAVE ONE, UNDER HUMAN RESOURCES. AND THAT'S AN EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT FOR OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF YOUTH DETENTION. AND THAT IS THROUGH AUGUST 21ST, 2029. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS IT RELATES TO THAT ITEM? FOOD ITEM? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED.ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING I WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE COMPLIANCE. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS IT RELATES TO BOTH ITEMS ONE AND TWO? OKAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING I, PERSONNEL BOARD. WE HAVE A TOTAL OF THREE ITEMS. ALL RIGHT. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING I. WE HAVE ONE ITEM UNDER NEW BUSINESS, AND THAT'S THE DISTRICT PAVING GRANT FOR NEW NORTH SMITHFIELD ITEM. ALL RIGHT. IT'S BEEN MOVED. CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE. AYE. THERE ENDS MY REPORT. ALL RIGHT. WE.
THAT BRINGS US TO THE END OF OUR AGENDA TODAY. I'VE ASKED, COUNTY ATTORNEY, THAT WE MOVE INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. IT'S MY OPINION THAT THE EXECUTIVE SESSION IS WARRANTED PURSUANT TO 3625 A SEVEN, A THREE CODE OF ALABAMA, FOR THE COMMISSION TO DISCUSS WITH ATTORNEYS THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS AND LEGAL OPTIONS PENDING LITIGATION INVOLVING JEFFERSON COUNTY AND CONTROVERSIES IMMINENTLY LIKELY TO BE LITIGATED. THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD TAKE 15 MINUTES. WE CAN LET IT BEGIN TO. YEAH. LAWYERS ARE TALKING. MIGHT OUGHT TO GO TO 25, 30. NO MORE THAN 30, NO MORE THAN SAY, YOU GOT SOMETHING ELSE. YEAH. OKAY. NO MORE THAN 30 MINUTES.
ANY, ACTION TO BE WITH THE, THE THE MAYOR'S ASKED. THE WHAT? WE DID, WE COME UP WITH A, WITH AN ANSWER AND I, I DIDN'T WANT, I THINK WE, I DON'T THINK WE, I DON'T THINK WE TAKE ANY ACTION, NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN. SO, WE LET'S BEGIN AT TEN AND, WE'RE AT FRANKLIN. OKAY. AND WE CAN BEGIN AT TEN AND THE LAST NO LONGER THAN 30 MINUTES WITH NO ACTIONS TO BE CORRECT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR
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