Sep 08, 2026 Pre-Commission Work Session

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GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. GOOD MORNING. LOOKS LIKE WE GOT A BIG CROWD HERE TODAY. AND PRETTY GOOD BIT OF BUSINESS TO TRANSACT, RIGHT? I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A VERY RESTFUL.

LABOR DAY WEEKEND. I HOPE THAT YOU THE BALL GAMES ALL WENT TO YOUR LIKING. AND I HOPE THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO HAVE FELLOWSHIP WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND HAVE A. HAVE A GOOD RESET FOR THE FALL. AND HERE WE GO. WE'RE GETTING READY TO GET INTO OUR OUR NEW FISCAL YEAR NEXT MONTH. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING SET ASIDE AND READY TO MOVE FORWARD. WE'RE COMING OFF A WONDERFUL YEAR, BUT MANAGEMENT FOR THAT AND WITH GREAT ANTICIPATION OF NEXT YEAR WILL BE BETTER THAN THIS. SO WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, DANIELLE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO? SURE. DEAR LORD, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS DAY. FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THIS COUNTY. THANK YOU FOR THIS STATE. THANK YOU FOR OUR GOVERNMENT. LORD GOD, THANK YOU FOR FREEDOM TO COME AND TALK TO YOU IN AN OPEN SETTING. LORD, I JUST LOVE YOU AND I THANK YOU FOR THE SACRIFICE THAT YOU MADE FOR US. LORD, I PRAY WISDOM FOR OUR COMMISSIONERS, LORD, ESPECIALLY FOR THIS AGENDA, LORD, THAT YOU WOULD JUST GIVE THEM YOUR WISDOM AND YOUR UNITY. LORD, THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US. WE RECOGNIZE HOW AMAZING YOU ARE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR BLESSINGS. AMEN, AMEN, AMEN.

LET'S JUST GO STRAIGHT DOWN THE LINE. ALRIGHT? GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. PUBLIC WORKS,

[PUBLIC WORKS, COMMUNITY SERVICES & INTER - GOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS COMMITTEE]

ALL THOSE LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING I. WE HAVE ONE ITEM OF BUSINESS FOR DISTRICT ONE.

THAT'S THE REAPPOINTMENT OF JERRY FOSTER TO THE FOREST HILL FIRE DISTRICT. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING I. THAT COMPLETES MY REPORT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MR. GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. GOOD MORNING.

[COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT & HEALTH SERVICES COMMITTEE]

CHILDREN'S VILLAGE IS A FOSTER CARE AGENCY THAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE WINONA AREA. AND THEY HAVE JEFFERSON COUNTY CHILDREN AND THEY TAKE GREAT CARE OF THEM. AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK OVER THERE. I WANT TO THANK DARREN AND THE TEAM. THEY THEY HAVE REALLY DID A LOT OF VOLUNTEER WORK OVER THERE, AND I WANT THEM TO COME AND TELL US MORE ABOUT IT AND THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY ARE HAVING. LET ME TELL YOU JUST A VERY BRIEFLY A BIT ABOUT CHILDREN'S VILLAGE HISTORY. BACK IN THE MID 1950S, A YOUNG AFRICAN AMERICAN BOY WAS FOUND WANDERING NORTH BIRMINGHAM ON A COLD JANUARY NIGHT. THE POLICE. BIRMINGHAM POLICE TOOK HIM IN AND PUT HIM IN JAIL. NOT BECAUSE HE'D DONE ANYTHING WRONG, BECAUSE HE DIDN'T HAVE A HOME. HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO GO GET FOOD. HE HAD ANY CLOTHING ON A GROUP OF AFRICAN AMERICAN BAPTIST MINISTERS WIVES LEARNED OF THIS AND SAID, WE CAN'T HAVE THIS IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND THEY STARTED WHAT BECAME CHILDREN'S VILLAGE. THAT WAS IN THE MID 50S IN 59.

SO PROPERTY WAS ACQUIRED IN 67. CHILDREN'S VILLAGE WAS INCORPORATED AS A GROUP FOSTER HOME IN THE SOUTHWEST SECTION OF BIRMINGHAM. AT THAT FACILITY, WE HAVE A BOYS HOME AND A HOME.

WE ALSO HAVE HAVE A TRANSITIONAL HOME THAT THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO MOVE

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WELL, WE AIM AND WHAT WE SEEK TO DO IS PUT THE LIVES OF CHILDREN BACK TOGETHER. THESE CHILDREN COME TO US FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RESOURCES. SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN SEXUAL ABUSE, PHYSICAL ABUSE. THE. THEY ARE HERE BECAUSE OF A CHILDREN'S VILLAGE, BECAUSE OF THEIR FORMER PARENT FAMILY BROKEN BY DRUGS OR WHATEVER. SO WHAT WE DO IS TO PROVIDE A LOVING, NURTURING, CARING ENVIRONMENT FOR THESE CHILDREN. WE TRY TO MAKE THEIR LIVES WHOLE AGAIN BY STABILIZING THEM IN EDUCATION, GOING TO SCHOOL. WE HAVE AFTER SCHOOL TUTORING PROGRAM. WE HAVE CERTIFIED TEACHERS BECAUSE MANY OF OUR CHILDREN COME. WITH POOR EDUCATION BACKGROUNDS, AND MANY OF THEM HAVE IEPS ARE IN SPECIAL EDUCATION AND NEED SPECIAL ATTENTION. WE HAVE THOSE PROGRAMS, WE HAVE COUNSELING. WE HAVE CREATED A THERAPEUTIC GARDEN WHERE THEY CAN WORK. AND, AND, AND GROW IN THE HELP THINGS GROW IN THE GARDEN. AND THAT HELPS THEM OVERALL. AND WHAT WE SIMPLY TRY TO DO IS TO JUST MAKE A GREAT ENVIRONMENT FOR THEM. WE'RE A CHRISTIAN BASED ORGANIZATION, AND WE DO EVERYTHING THAT A PARENT WOULD DO FOR A CHILD. WE SUPPORT THEM IN EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES, AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS COST A LOT OF MONEY. NOW THIS. IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY. LET ME SAY THIS REAL QUICKLY.

IF I HAVE THIS, I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD OF CHILDREN FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS. I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS, WAY MORE THAN I NEED. BUT THEY TYSON, OUR STAFF OUT THERE DOING ABSOLUTELY REMARKABLE JOB OF TAKING THESE KIDS. AND THEY COME FROM JUST. I'D LIKE TO TELL YOU SOME OF THE DETAILS. WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DISCLOSE THAT, BUT IT'S TERRIBLE CIRCUMSTANCES. THEY DO AN AMAZING JOB OF TAKING CARE OF THESE KIDS AND, AND GROWING THEM AND NURTURING THEM. AND THEY MAKE GOOD GRADES. WE GOT KIDS TO HAVE. OUR KIDS ARE MAKING ON THE A B HONOR ROLL, GOT KIDS PLAYING EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES GOING ON AND, YOU KNOW, GROWING INTO DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES, INTO BECOMING GOOD, GOOD YOUNG CITIZENS. AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE FINANCIALLY CHALLENGED AND HAVE BEEN. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY ASSISTANCE THAT CAN BE COULD BE AVAILABLE. JUST TO GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES, IN 2019, THE HR CUT FUNDING FOR GROUP FOSTER HOMES, INCLUDING CHILDREN'S VILLAGE, FROM $82 LITTLE OVER $82 A DAY TO $56 PER DAY. ABOUT AN 18%. ABOUT IT RESULTED IN ABOUT 175 $180,000 LOSS OF FUNDING FOR US, ABOUT 18% OF OUR ENTIRE OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE YEAR. SINCE THAT TIME, DESPITE INFLATION, IT'S BEEN RUNNING IN ON THE HIGH SIDE OF 30%. IF YOU IF YOU CUMULATIVELY ADD IT TOGETHER OVER THE LAST 5 OR 6 YEARS WITH A 30 PLUS PERCENT INFLATION, THEY HAVE NOT INCREASED THAT FUNDING BY $0.01. SO WE'RE STILL OPERATING, TRYING TO PUT BAND-AIDS ON THINGS AND OPERATE WITH WITH REDUCED FUNDING IN 2019, WITH INSURANCE, TRANSPORTATION COSTS FOR THESE KIDS, FOOD, TUTORING, UTILITIES,

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WELL MASTER CHIEF, I THINK ABOUT 30% OF OUR BUDGET. WE GET. WE APPLY FOR ANY AND EVERY GRANT THAT WE CAN FIND THAT THAT IS FOCUSED ON ACTIVITIES LIKE OURS. WE'VE BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL, DECISIVE, ESPECIALLY IN GETTING THESE GRANTS. BUT BUT OF COURSE, THE GRANTS TYPICALLY ARE FOR 1 OR 2 YEAR PERIODS OF TIME AND THEY EXPIRE. AND OFTENTIMES YOU'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THOSE GRANTS FOR AT ALL OR FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME. WE RAISE ABOUT IN THE PAST, WE WERE RAISING ABOUT 100 TO $120,000 A YEAR ON TWO WITH TWO MAJOR FUNDRAISERS, A GOLF FUNDRAISER AND A FOUNDERS LUNCHEON FUNDRAISER, WHICH, BY THE WAY, WE HAVE COMING UP ON OCTOBER 22ND. AND WE'D LOVE FOR ALL OF YOU FOLKS TO JOIN US AND BUY A TABLE AND, AND SUPPORT US AGAIN. BUT WE THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO RESTART THAT FUNDRAISER SINCE COVID. WE GET A LOT OF MONEY WITH JUST INDIVIDUAL DONATIONS. CHURCHES ARE GREAT IN SUPPORTING US AROUND THE BIRMINGHAM AREA. WE'VE GOT 8 OR 10 THAT THAT ARE THAT ARE JUST ALWAYS SUPPORTIVE OF OUR. AND THOSE ARE THOSE TEND TO BE SMALLER, MODEST DONATIONS, NOT NOT BIG DOLLAR DONATIONS. I TRY TO THINK OF OTHER. WE DO A COUPLE OF SOLICITATIONS A YEAR, USUALLY ONE AT THE HOLIDAYS TO PEOPLE WHO, WHO WANT TO BE CHARITABLE AND SUPPORT CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS TO MAKE DONATIONS. AND WE, WE GET MONEY FROM THAT. SO IT'S A IT'S SORT OF A COMBINATION OF ALL THOSE THINGS. BUT LIKE I SAID, IT WILL VARY FROM YEAR TO YEAR. ONE YEAR WE WILL GET WE GOT A COUPLE OF YEARS WHERE WE GOT $100,000 GRANT FROM AN ORGANIZATION CALLED DIRECT RELIEF. AND THAT WAS GREAT. IT KEPT US AFLOAT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. BUT BUT LIKE I MENTIONED, THERE'S A LOT OF GRANTS. IT EXPIRED AND YOU'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR RE-UPPING FOR LIKE 2 OR 3 MORE YEARS. YOU CAN'T APPLY ONCE YOU'VE GOT IT FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

SO, SO YOU GET THE MONEY AND IT'S THERE FOR A YEAR. BUT THEN THE NEXT YEAR, YOU GOT TO

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JEFFERSON COUNTY. YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND I'VE SAID THAT FOR A PARTICULAR REASON. I SAY TO ANSWER TWO QUESTIONS. NUMBER ONE CITY, BIRMINGHAM HELPING AT ALL. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. HOW MUCH? COMMUNITY BLOCK GRANT FOR US. CBGCDBG. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. FEDERAL MONEY. ALL RIGHT.

NUMBER TWO. IS THAT JEFFERSON COUNTY CANNOT LEGALLY GIVE MONEY FOR THE BENEFIT OF PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF JEFFERSON COUNTY. THAT WAS A TWO TWO QUESTION, RIGHT. THESE THESE KIDS.

COMMISSIONER. I'M TRYING I JUST I KNOW THEY'RE THEY ARE FROM JEFFERSON COUNTY. BUT IF YOU HAVE AN UNSTABLE PARENT, THEY ARE THEY MOVE AROUND BECAUSE THEY DON'T STAY. THEY CAN'T, YOU KNOW, PAY RENT NO MORE THAN 2 OR 3 MONTHS AND THEY MIGHT STAY THIS PLACE AND 2 OR 3 MONTHS THEY MIGHT STAY THEIR PLACE. THIS IS WHAT TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT THESE CHILDREN ARE COMING FROM. YEAH. SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE COMING FROM OHIO. NO. YOU'RE COMING DOWN HERE GETTING THE CHILDREN. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? OKAY, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED YOU TO TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY WAS COMING FROM. YEAH. AND I'M I'M TRYING TO LOOK FOR A PATHWAY TO HELP. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO QUESTION FOR YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU ALL. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. EXCUSE ME, MISS TYSON, CAN YOU GO BACK THERE? I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK I WAS BEING RUDE. I ACTUALLY REMOVED THAT MICROPHONE SO I COULD SEE YOUR PRETTY FACE. OKAY. HAVE YOU ALL BEEN MADE AWARE OF CDBG FUNDING? THE COUNTY PROVIDES? WE CAN'T USE IT IN BIRMINGHAM. EACH OF MY CUTS, OUR FACILITY IS IN THERE. THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN I DEFER TO DARREN ON THAT ONE. NOT NOT SHAKING HIS HEAD. NO. YEAH. BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FUNDS IN THE CITY LIMITS OF BIRMINGHAM. THERE'S ONLY FIVE CITIES THAT ARE IN OUR CONSORTIUM IN BIRMINGHAM WILL BE ONE OF THOSE BEST. ONE WILL BE ANOTHER. HELENA, DO YOU UNDERSTAND, MISS TYSON, WHAT THEY'RE SAYING? I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND, OKAY, SO IN ESSENCE, BECAUSE BIRMINGHAM HAS THEIR OWN FEDERAL BLOCK GRANT DOLLARS, THEN THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ABLE TO GIVE TO YOU OUT OF THEIR FUNDING. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE COUNTY, BECAUSE BIRMINGHAM HAS THEIR OWN FUNDING, THEN WE ARE NOT PERMITTED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT INVESTMENT, NOT BECAUSE OF LACK OF WANTING TO OR DESIRE TO IS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE LAW IS WRITTEN. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? OKAY, BUT I GET YOU BECAUSE YOU CAN YOU CAN EITHER BE PROACTIVE OR REACTIVE. YOU CAN EITHER SAVE THEM BEFORE THEY GO TO JAIL OR BEFORE I GET IT. SO AND I'VE BEEN ON A PROGRAM WITH YOU. I'M IMPRESSED BY YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. AND THEY NEED HELP. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET THEM SOME. YES, SIR. IF Y'ALL I KNOW YOU JUST IN THIS LITTLE CONVERSATION HERE, YOU MENTIONED OTHER RESOURCES. AND AS MUCH AS WE LOVE, WE APPRECIATE DIRECT ASSISTANCE FROM THE COUNTY. IF Y'ALL KNOW OF OTHER RESOURCES THAT WE CAN REACH OUT TO, WE WOULD APPRECIATE ANY INFORMATION WE WOULD LIKE I SAID, WE LOOK AT IT FOR EVERY OPPORTUNITY WE CAN FIND IN EACH EACH YEAR, WE FIND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE WEREN'T AWARE OF THAT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, MIGHT, MIGHT BE HELPFUL. ANY ASSISTANCE, DIRECT OR INDIRECT THAT YOU PROVIDE WOULD BE BE MORE THAN APPRECIATED. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALLISON. OKAY. I HAVE A REPORT FROM THE CORONER'S OFFICE. GOOD MORNING. COMMISSIONERS. THIS ITEM IS TO RATIFY A SUBRECIPIENT AGREEMENT THAT JEFFERSON COUNTY, THE JEFFERSON COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH HAS WITH THE CDC. THE CDC PROVIDED MONEY FOR HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO USE FOR JEFFERSON COUNTY TO PURCHASE A TOXICOLOGY INSTRUMENT ON OUR BEHALF. WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT. IT TOOK A LITTLE LONGER THAN WE EXPECTED. THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF THE AGREEMENT TO THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR. THE WALKED OUT. I THINK WE RATIFIED THAT. OH YOU DID? YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

WELL THEN LET ME PROCESS OF RATIFYING IS IS DECEMBER 31ST ENOUGH TIME. YEAH. SO THAT'S

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THEY HAVE TO SET THE EQUIPMENT UP AND HAVE TRAINING, BUT I THINK THIS WILL DO IT. BUT BUT TO EXTEND THE TERM TO DECEMBER 31ST, DO WE NEED TO GO INTO 27? WHAT I'M ASKING WHY WE'RE HERE.

WELL, I THINK THAT THAT DATE IS DETERMINED BY THE CDC, NOT BY US. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'M JUST SAYING, IF NEEDED, I APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT. MAYBE MAYBE I'M GOING TO CHOOSE TO LOOK AT IT AS HOLDING OUR FEET TO THE FIRE. OKAY. BUT WE'RE WORKING ON IT AND SHOULD HAVE THE CONTRACT TO BRING TO YOU. I HOPE NEXT TIME WE MEET. MAYBE TIME AFTER THAT, OKAY, I MOVE THE ITEM SECOND AND FIRST AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. I HAVE, AND TO BE CLEAR NOW, I'M SORRY, MADAM CHAIR.

YOU'RE SAYING YOU DO NOT NEED ADDITIONAL TIME? WE WOULD HAVE TO GET THAT APPROVED BY THE CDC.

I THINK WE'VE GOT IT. BUT I THINK THIS MAY BE ALL THAT WE GET, BUT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. OKAY? OKAY. COME BACK IF YOU NEED IT. OKAY. COMING BACK IN, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT SENT THAT CONTRACT OVER AND IT WAS IT WAS TIME SENSITIVE. IT WAS RUNNING OUT. IT HAD A MONDAY DEADLINE. I THOUGHT WE TALKED TO THIO THIO SIGN IT AND WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. AND IT'S, IT'S A GOOD, WORTHWHILE PROJECT. AND WE WE DID NOT WANT TO LOSE THE MONEY. SO I SIGNED IT. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO RATIFY TODAY. OKAY. AND THEY APPROVED. THAT'S WHAT THEO WAS UP. OKAY. WE APPROVED. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. SURE. OKAY. DOCTOR HAMILTON, GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. WE JUST HAVE ONE ITEM THIS MORNING. THIS IS AN AGREEMENT AUTHORIZING COMMUNITY SERVICES. SECOND AND FIRST AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I. OKAY.

THANK YOU, DOCTOR HAMILTON. SO YOU JUST WHEN YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF. JAMES FIELDS ON THE COURT.

IS HE ON THE LINE HERE. OKAY. GOOD MORNING. I'M ERICA WITH FAMILY COURT. AND WE HAVE THE CONTRACT FOR THE CHILDREN'S POLICY COOPERATIVE, JEFFERSON COUNTY, WHICH IS A ONE YEAR RENEWAL THAT WE'RE REQUESTING, AND THE CPC ASSISTS THE COURT IN DEVELOPMENT AND PROMOTION OF RESOURCES FOR FAMILIES AND CHILDREN IN THE COMMUNITY. SECOND, IS THIS A ONE YEAR, JUST A ONE YEAR, JUST ONE YEAR. FAMILY COURT HAD BEEN FIRST, SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I

[ADMINISTRATIVE, & INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE]

YOU HAVE ROADS AND TRANSPORTATION HAS AN ALABAMA POWER DISTRIBUTION. WHO DO YOU WANT? I CAN RUN THROUGH THOSE REAL QUICK. REAL QUICK. ITEM ONE IS AN EASEMENT ON OUR LANDFILL FOR ALABAMA POWER TO INSTALL SOME POWER POLES. ITEM TWO IS THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR THE SHADES CREST BRIDGE PROJECT. ITEM THREE IS A TIME EXTENSION. ALSO ADDING MONEY TO THE GALLERY OF PROJECTS. WE CAN FINISH THAT DESIGN AND FINALLY GET THAT THING. BID ITEM FOUR IS A CONTRACT TO ASSESS. WE HAVE A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS WE USE IN THE ROADS, AND TRANSPORTATION, LIKE CITY WORKS, IS TO ASSESS OUR WHOLE SYSTEM AND HELP US ELIMINATE WASTE AND BE MORE EFFICIENT. AND ITEM FIVE IS THE RIGHT OF WAY.

TRAFFIC CALMING ROADS. ALL RIGHT. IN ADDITION TO THOSE WHICH WE WILL HOLD FOR JUST A SECOND, THERE ARE SIX ITEMS OF NEW BUSINESS THAT WERE PRESENTED. WE'RE GOING TO DO THOSE, SIR. ARE WE GOING TO DO THOSE? I WAS GOING TO HOLD THEM IN AND DO THEM ALL TOGETHER SINCE THEY WERE. ALL ROADS ARE DRAINAGE WORKS. WE HAVE. YOU HAVE SIX ITEMS OF NEW BUSINESS, I LIKE TO A QUESTION. THESE ARE THESE IN HERE AND THEY'RE NOT NEW BUSINESS. YEAH. YES SIR.

ALL SIX OF THEM ARE NOT ROADS AND TRANSPORTATION. ONLY THREE OF THEM ARE ROADS AND TRANSPORTATION. ONE IS FINANCE, ONE IS GENERAL, TWO ARE GENERAL SERVICES. OKAY. AND COMMISSIONERS, I WOULD SAY THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY URGENT THAT THEY GET ON THIS. ONE ISSUE IS THIS IS THE LAST TIME WE USE MINUTE TRACK. NEXT TIME WE START THE 100% THE NEW

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AND SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. MOVE ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE. SECOND. THANK YOU.

I THOUGHT I MOVED YOU, AND YOU KNOW YOU DID. OH, OKAY, THEN. DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THE NEW BUSINESS SINCE WE'RE HERE. AND THREE OF THOSE ARE REPRESENTED BY ROSENKRANZ. YOU HAVE ONE FINANCE AND TWO GENERAL SERVICES. SO CONSIDERATION OF SIX ITEMS OF NEW BUSINESS. I MOVED IT. CAN WE GET A SECOND. WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND.

I JUST WELL WE CAN DO THIS ANOTHER TIME IF Y'ALL WANT. MR. PRESIDENT IT SAYS YOU'RE DOING REAL QUICK. I YOU DON'T HAVE THEM HAVE TO GO TO AGENDA. I'M JUST SAYING SHE'S GOT. YEAH.

NEW BUSINESS. IS THIS THE ONE WITH THE. MARTIN MANAGEMENT? YEAH THAT'S. CHRIS. WILL YOU EXPLAIN THOSE TWO. OH WELL YES SIR. JUST FOR PERMIT. IF YOU DO STORM DETENTION WITHIN THE COUNTY, YOU HAVE TO ENTER INTO AN OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT. SO THOSE ARE JUST TWO OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE ONES FOR THE KIRKLAND FACILITY. AND THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, COMMISSIONER, IS FOR THE EASTERN VALLEY MARTIN MANAGEMENT BUSINESS. THEY HAVE A STORM DETENTION POND THAT THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN. YEAH, JUST GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. MR. PRESIDENT, I DO HAVE A SECOND. YES, I HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND TO CONSIDER SIX ITEMS EITHER. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I'D LIKE TO CONSIDER THOSE FIRST THREE. NOW IN THE OTHER TWO THE OTHER THREE WOULD COME OFF. COMMISSIONER KNIGHTS. OKAY.

LET'S JUST MOVE ALONG. MOVE THEM OFF. MOVE ALL OF THEM. I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S OUT OF THE WAY. YEAH. COUNTY ATTORNEY.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. I MOVE YOURS SECOND. THAT'S A MINUTES AND SIX ITEMS. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. COUNTY MANAGER SAYS NO. I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. OKAY. HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. HE I OH HE'S QUIET. THE WAY THAT GOES. COMMISSIONER GRANT I'VE GOT MY HIGH SCHOOL BASEBALL. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. JOE. ALRIGHT. FINANCE. MISS DIXON, GOOD MORNING.

[FINANCE, JUDICIAL, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT & DEVELOPMENT AND GENERAL SERVICES COMMITTEE]

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AND THEN THE SECOND PHASE WILL BE ON THE EAST SIDE OF IT. AND THEN THEY HAVE PLANNED COMMERCIAL ALONG DICKEY SPRINGS AFTER THOSE TWO BUILD OUTS. THERE WAS A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS COMPLETED WITH THIS THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION. THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE AT DICKEY SPRINGS ROAD DURING THE PEAK HOUR, WHICH IS CONSISTENT FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, IT'S TYPICALLY A, A OR A B AND POST DEVELOPMENT FOR PHASE ONE AND TWO. THE LEVEL OF SERVICE WOULD BE A B, WHICH IS MORE OR LESS FREE FLOW TRAFFIC THROUGHOUT THAT CORRIDOR. THEY DID SUBMIT A COUPLE OF RENDERINGS AS PART OF THEIR APPLICATION. SO THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE A POOL THAT SORT OF ACTS AS THE CENTER OF THE COURTYARD. THEY'RE USING MORE NATURAL MATERIALS, LARGE WINDOW FACADES, AND THERE'S A COUPLE MORE HERE. THEY'RE VERY PRETTY. I CAN REMEMBER WAY BACK WHEN THAT THAT I ASKED FOR ANYTHING THAT WOULD COME UP LIKE THAT IN MY DISTRICT. WE. PRESENTED TO ME SO I SO I COULD SEE IT AND BE ABLE TO SPEAK INTELLIGENTLY WITH MY CONSTITUENTS. FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN THIS. IS THERE A REASON FOR THAT? I THINK YOU'VE SEEN IT, COMMISSIONER. I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT. DID WE? NOT ME. WELL YES SIR. I MEAN, I WE MET WITH THE DEVELOPER ON THIS. THIS IS IT. IDENTICAL RENDERINGS IN LAYOUT TO WE MET. A WHILE AGO. IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. WAS THAT WAS VERY. I AM CONCERNED THAT. WAS THERE ANY OPPOSITION. YES, SIR. WE DID NOT HAVE ANY ANY WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY WRITTEN FEEDBACK, ANY PHONE CALLS ON THIS CASE. SO WE'RE. OKAY. LET IT GO ON THROUGH. THAT'S I, I, I'LL VOICE MY OPINION AND GIVE MY VOTE WHEN THE TIME COMES. HOW MANY UNITS IS IT JOSH. IT'S GOING TO BE IN ALL 247 DWELLING UNITS. THAT'S GOING TO BE A MIX OF SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED AS WELL AS TOWNHOMES, DUPLEXES. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

THEY'RE REQUIRED TO ADD A TURN LANE TO DICKEY SPRINGS. I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE WHAT THEY'RE REQUIRED. ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE IT TO THE AGENDA? SO I WAS GOING TO SAY MOTION. I THINK. YEAH, I'M I THINK WE NEED A VOTE AGAINST IT. BUT MOVING TO THE AGENDA IS IT IS IT IF YOU OVER TO THE AGENDA NOW, I, I THINK YOU NEED TO DELAY. WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE CAN MOTION. WE RECOMMEND. TABLING IT. I GUESS THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO DO WITH THE HEARING. YEAH. BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE EMOTIONAL BEFORE THE HEARING. PUBLIC HEARING. WE'VE ALREADY SENT ADVERTISEMENT. OR WE ALREADY PLACE THE LEGAL AS WELL AS THE NOTIFICATION. SO THE PUBLIC HEARING IS SET. YES, SIR. OKAY. SO I'M JUST GETTING IT TO THURSDAY. WE VOTE HOWEVER WE WANT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'M STILL SAYING I THINK YOU MIGHT NEED TO DELAY IT. FAILS ON LACK OF A SECOND. I MEAN, 26 MADE ME START 0020. YES, SIR. THE SECOND REQUEST FOR REZONING IS JUST TO REMOVE SPLIT ZONING.

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THAT WAS A MOTION. ALL RIGHT. HOLD ON. STANDBY 260020. OKAY. SO WE JUST WANT TO TRY TO ALIGN THE ZONING PROPERLY SO IT CAN IT CAN BE HOLD INSTEAD OF SPLIT. THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING. IT'S A LESS INTENSE USE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO FULL AGRICULTURAL USAGE RATHER THAN STRAIGHT LINE. OKAY. AND FORGIVE ME. WHERE IS THIS LOCATED. IT'S JUST OUTSIDE OF THE WARRIOR AREA. I'M GOOD. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO THEN MOVE IT. I HAVE A MOTION, I MOVED.

YEAH, I HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT. Z 260021.

YES, SIR. OUR LAST REQUEST IS FOR A REZONING CASE TO GO BASICALLY FROM A WHAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED FOR A DUPLEX LOT TO A MOBILE HOME RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS ONE, BECAUSE IT'S A COMPARABLE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN WAS APPROVED. WELL, DO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. THANK YOU. GENERAL SERVICES. MISS HILL, YOU ON? YES. GOOD MORNING. COMMISSIONERS. GENERAL SERVICES HAS SIX ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THIS MORNING. ITEM ONE IS AN AMENDMENT FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR MAJOR MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT. ITEM TWO IS AN AMENDMENT FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR CODE COMPLIANCE. ITEM THREE IS PROFESSIONAL SERVICES ARCHITECTURE. FOR AN ASSESSMENT OF THE SATELLITE OFFICES, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE HOOVER CENTER, POINT AND GARDENDALE. ITEM FOUR IS FOR. ITEM FOUR IS THE PENNINGTON GROUP IN STORM SHELTER RENOVATIONS FOR MARTINTOWN. ITEM FIVE IS THE PARKING LOT REPORTING FOR THE FOREIGNER.

WE'RE REMOVING THE ASPHALT AND REPLACING IT WITH CONCRETE DUE TO A DRAINAGE ISSUE. ITEM SIX IS PROFESSIONAL SERVICES IS THE FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR CENTRAL ENERGY PLANT FOR THE BIRMINGHAM PORTFOLIO ON NUMBER FOUR. WHAT ARE THOSE STORM SHELTER RENOVATIONS FOR MARTINTOWN.

WHAT? WHAT ARE WE DOING? ISN'T THAT A PRETTY NEW SHELTER? NO, SIR, IT IS. IT'S A STORM SHELTER. WE WERE. I'M NOT SURE IF DOCTOR HAMILTON CAN SPEAK TO THE. THAT IS MANAGING THAT, BUT WE WERE ASKED TO PROVIDE THE FUNDING FOR THE EXTERIOR CLEANING. AND IT'S AN INTERIOR CLEAN AS WELL. WE'RE ALSO PATCHING THE SHEETROCK FOR THE RESTROOMS. OKAY. CORRECT. I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. WELL, OLDER MEANING IT WAS 419. ONE OF THE MONEY WE GOT FOR THE 2011 TORNADO. YEAH. SO THAT'S NOT REAL OLD TO ME, SIR. THAT'S NOT REAL OLD TO ME.

OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. BUT WE ALREADY HAVE A REPLACED SHEETROCK IN A LESS THAN TEN YEAR OLD BUILDING. YES, SIR. WHY? YOU'VE BEEN OUT HERE? YOU HAD SOME MOLD IN THE BUILDING.

JESUS. OKAY. IS THIS FOR CENTER POINT? NO, NO. THIS. OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ITEMS ONE THROUGH SIX. DO I HAVE A MOTION MOVED? A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND I HAVE THE ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR, ONE MOVE. HAVE A MOTION. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. THAT COMPLETES MY REPORT, SIR. I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO. HAVE YOU GOT A COMPLETED UPDATED BUDGET. DID YOU SEND ONE OF THOSE OUT HERE ON THE 25TH? SHE DID, BUT WE

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IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE AGENDA BACK OF THAT PACKET. THAT'S WHAT I'M CHECKING. YEAH.

AND IT WAS LIKE VERY A COUPLE OF THOUSAND FOR PERSONNEL BOARD. THAT WAS THE ONLY CHANGE OTHER THAN THE ONE FROM THE 25TH THAT WAS SENT OUT. RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. I MEAN, ACTUALLY HAVE EXTRA COPIES OF THE ONE THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA IN CASE IT WAS, IT WAS. WELL, IF IT'S IN HERE, I'LL GET IT. I'M FINE. YEAH. AND IT WASN'T ON A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS.

AND IT WAS TO OUR GOOD ACTUALLY. IS THERE SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED THAT WE.

WOULD DISPUTE TO $10 MILLION? BUT WHAT WAS THAT? THAT WAS A $10 MILLION ESTIMATE. THAT WAS I'M SORRY, THERE WAS NO SECOND ON THAT. MR. SECRETARY LEFT IT OUT, I DIDN'T HAVE IS THE EXTRA.

I'M GONNA LOOK AT IT BEFORE I APPROVE IT. OKAY. CHANGES ARE DENOTED IN RED HERE. NO, THIS IS RECOMMENDED. BUDGET. SCENARIO TWO IS WHAT IT SAYS, RIGHT? FOR 826 IS THE DATE. WE DON'T STAMP IT FINAL UNTIL AFTER YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS THE 826 BUDGET. YEAH THAT'S OKAY. AND THE 825 BUDGET WAS THE DATE OR ON THE DATE OF THE 825. SO THAT ONE MINOR CHANGE WAS MADE IN PERSONNEL BOARD. I DON'T HAVE MY OTHER. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOME SOME THINGS TO IT EITHER. WHAT I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOME THINGS TO. WELL, THAT MEANS YOU WANT SOME MONEY SOMEWHERE. SO WAIT. ALL RIGHT. AND I NEED TO. PUBLIC IS GIVEN THE MONEY FOR THEMSELVES. THAT'S THE POINT. I KNOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO THAT. THE GOVERNMENT AND YOU'VE GOT $17 MILLION ON THAT FUND BALANCE. THAT MONEY IS, I BELIEVE, FROM THAT MEETING THAT I WAS IN WITH COMMISSIONER KNIGHT. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT GOING TO CAPTAIN. OKAY.

EVENTUALLY IT WILL. YEAH. BUT WE THE REASON IT'S NOT SHOWING THAT NOW IS WE DID NOT HAVE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER, THAT THE FINAL COUNTING WAS NOT DONE. IS THAT NOT IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. I MEAN, SOME OF OUR LARGER PROJECTS, WE HAVEN'T BID YET. AND SO AND THEN WE HAVE SOME EXTRA CONTRACTS FOR THE CORNER AND THE ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY. ONCE THOSE GET BID, WE'LL HAVE BETTER NUMBERS. THEN Y'ALL CAN MAKE A DECISION. SO MY UNDERSTANDING ALL THIS, I MEAN MAJORITY IS NOT FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS, RIGHT? IT IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE. WE UNDERSTAND PROBABLY. BUT I'M SAYING DOES IT HAVE TO. IT WAS MY THE PLAN WAS TO. WHAT IS IT? A LITTLE OVER 1,000,001.18. ALL RIGHT. OH, COMMISSIONER, EVERYONE HAS A COPY OF THIS.

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I THINK. THANK YOU CHAIR. HE HE'S. MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK. HE'S DOING SUCH AN AWESOME JOB.

AND I THINK THAT WE WERE WE'LL COME UP WITH SOMETHING. I'M SURE YOU WILL. BE LIKE THIS.

WE'LL ADD THAT TO THE 10 MILLION. HOW ABOUT THAT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU THAT WE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOMETHING, BUT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THIS IS GONE TO THE AGENDA. SO I'LL DO THE AGENDA. AND IT'S WELL IT HAD A LOT OF THOUGHT THAT WAS PUT INTO IT. WELL WE'LL PUT MORE THOUGHT INTO IT TOMORROW IF YOU NEED THE THOUGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. YOU JUST SAID IS HE AS YOU JUST SAID. SO OTHERWISE WE'RE GOING TO PASS THIS THING THURSDAY. IF IT PASSES, THAT IS AS IS.

THAT'S FINE WITH ME. BUT I DON'T I'VE I'VE I'M JUST I'M JUST GETTING GETTING A LOOK HERE. SO. YOU KNOW I THINK WE GOT TO DO DISTRICT FIVE. DISTRICT FIVE. LET'S MOVE ITEMS

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SOMEBODY PAT HIM ON THE HEAD

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