Sep 10, 2026 Planning and Zoning Commission

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EVERYONE. WELCOME TO THE SEPTEMBER 10TH, 2026 PUBLIC HEARING OF THE JEFFERSON COUNTY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER. MY NAME IS KEN LOWRY, AND I SERVE AS CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMISSION, AND IT IS 1:00. SO WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN OUR SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARING.

BEFORE WE PROCEED, IF YOU HAVE ANY PHONES OR OTHER ELECTRONIC DEVICES THAT MAKE NOISE, IF YOU WOULD SILENCE THEM, PLEASE, SO AS NOT TO INTERRUPT OUR MEETING. THANK YOU. THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION IS CHARGED WITH REGULATING THE SUBDIVISION OF PROPERTY IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF JEFFERSON COUNTY. THE LEGAL DEFINITION OF SUBDIVISION IS ANY DIVISION OF LAND INTO TWO OR MORE LOTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF DEVELOPMENT OR SALE. THE MAJORITY OF OUR CASES INVOLVE DIVISIONS OF PROPERTY INTO FOUR LOTS OR LESS. ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS OF EACH SUBJECT PROPERTY HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED BY MAIL AND IN ADDITION, LEGAL ADVERTISEMENTS WERE PUBLISHED AND SIGNS HAVE BEEN POSTED ON AFFECTED PROPERTIES CONTAINING FIVE OR MORE LOTS. THE COMMISSION IS ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR ADMINISTERING THE JEFFERSON COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENTS. WE EVALUATE REZONING CASES FOR THEIR CONSISTENCY WITH PLANNING POLICIES AND ZONING REGULATIONS, AS THEY PERTAIN TO THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF JEFFERSON COUNTY, AND WE PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE JEFFERSON COUNTY COMMISSION, WHICH MAKES THE FINAL DECISIONS ON THE REZONING CASES. PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF EACH ZONING CASE PROPERTY HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED BY MAIL. IN ADDITION, LEGAL ADVERTISEMENTS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED AND SIGNS HAVE BEEN POSTED ON THE AFFECTED PROPERTIES. AS PART OF OUR RESPONSIBILITIES, WE CONDUCT OUR PROCEEDINGS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FEDERAL FAIR HOUSING LAWS. THE FAIR HOUSING ACT PROHIBITS DISCRIMINATION IN HOUSING BASED ON RACE, COLOR, RELIGION, SEX, FAMILIAL STATUS, NATIONAL ORIGIN, DISABILITY, FINANCIAL STATUS OR HOUSING ARRANGEMENTS. THE COMMISSION IS COMMITTED TO ENSURING THAT FAIR, LAWFUL AND EQUITABLE, EQUITABLE LAND USE PRACTICES IN ALL MATTERS THAT COME BEFORE US.

COULD I HAVE A ROLL CALL FOR THE COMMISSION, PLEASE? IN PRESENT DAY. HERE. PRESENT HERE.

IN A PUSH. HERE. HERE. KATY MCMURRAY HERE. EDWARD BROWN PRESENT, MR. CHAIRMAN. GREAT.

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ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. NOW, WE WILL BEGIN WITH ITEMS FOR TODAY'S AGENDA.

EACH CASE WILL BE PRESENTED INDIVIDUALLY WITH TIME ALLOTTED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. FOR THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK, IF YOU WOULD RAISE YOUR HAND. I WILL RECOGNIZE YOU AND DIRECT YOU TO THE PODIUM WHERE YOU WILL FIRST, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN YOU CAN ASK ME QUESTIONS OR ANY CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE, THAT SORT OF THING. SO WE WILL BEGIN.

[S-26-0038 In Elohim We, Inc, owner, Kim Williams, agent; request Williams Brewster Road Resurvey, Four (4) lots proposed. Property zoned E-2 (Estate). PID# 1200204001010000 in section 20 / Township 16 / Range 1 W. (Site address 1614 Brewster Road, Center Point, 35235)(4.9 acres +/-)]

THEN I WILL CALL FOR OPPOSITION. THE APPLICANT OR REPRESENTATIVE MAY BE ASKED TO COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS. SO OUR FIRST CASE TODAY IS S 260038. THE APPLICANT IS KIM WILLIAMS. THE REQUEST IS WILLIAMS BREWSTER ROAD SURVEY FOR LOTS PROPOSED CURRENT ZONING IS E TWO ESTATE. THE ADDRESS IS 1614 BREWSTER ROAD, CENTER .35235. IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS SUBDIVISION CASE? I'M GOING TO GUESS. PERHAPS YOU'RE THE APPLICANT. OKAY. THANK YOU. LET ME SEE IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS. SO I HEARD. NO, NO ONE'S IN OPPOSITION. CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? ALL RIGHT. YOU CAN BE SEATED. MAY I HAVE A MOTION ON THIS SUBDIVISION CASE, PLEASE? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SUBDIVISION CASE S 260038. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSES. SO ON THE SUBDIVISION CASES, ONCE WE'VE HEARD THEM AND VOTED ON THEM, THEY'RE PRELIMINARILY APPROVED. AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAY. YOU CAN UNLESS YOU WANT TO SEE THE REST OF THE SHOW TODAY. SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO TO LEAVE IF YOU WOULD LIKE. ALL

[S-26-0057 South Point Capital, LLC, owner; Keith Quinn, owner; request Tanner’s 3 Lot Subdivision, Three (3) lots proposed. Property zoned A-1 (Agriculture). PID# 0600080000038000 in section 08 / Township 15 / Range 4 W. (Site address 4747 Warrior Jasper Road, Dora, 35062)(3.75 acres +/-)]

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OKAY, FOR YOU, BUT KEEP GOING. OH, THAT WAS THE FIRST QUESTION I HAD. OKAY. AND THEN OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE IN HOW LIKE THE ACCESS TO OR INTO THE SUBDIVISION, WHAT KIND OF ROAD WILL BE USED TO GET INTO THAT SUBDIVISION? AND IN THE FUTURE, WILL THERE'LL BE MAYBE LIKE MORE HOMES BUILT THERE? OR IS IT JUST GOING TO BE THE THREE LOT HOMES? OKAY, THAT'S MY QUESTION. OKAY. GOOD QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY. I JUST HAVE A SEAT. THAT WAS ALL YOUR QUESTIONS. I JUST HAVE A SEAT. NOW. YOU MAY. YES. OKAY. SO AND DID YOU HAVE SOME? OKAY. WELL, YOU DID A GOOD JOB, SIR. I BELIEVE YOU WERE OKAY. ALL RIGHT, I LIKE THAT. ALL RIGHT.

SO IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS SUBDIVISION CASE? IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? SO THE APPLICANT I HAVE DOWN IS KEITH QUINN. MR. QUINN, ARE YOU HERE? OKAY, SO I GOT GOOD NEWS AND BAD NEWS. WE HEARD YOUR QUESTIONS, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANSWERS TO THEM. BUT I THINK, ANDREW, YOU CAN PROBABLY TAKE A GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION FOR US, CAN'T YOU? YEAH. THIS IS WILL YOU GO UP TO THE MIC FIRST, PLEASE? YEAH. HOW ABOUT THAT. OKAY. OKAY.

THIS IS A PROPOSED THREE LOT SUBDIVISION. THIS IS CURRENTLY ONE ACREAGE TRACT. AND WHICH MEANS WE'RE GOING TO DIVIDE ONE THE ONE ACRE TRACT INTO THREE SEPARATE LOTS. THAT'S CORRECT.

YOU'LL SEE HERE THIS IS THE ZONING MAP RIGHT HERE. THIS IS THIS GREEN. IS AGRICULTURE ZONING A ONE. A ONE ALLOWS FOR ONE ACRE LOTS. SO IT'S IT'S ZONED AGRICULTURE. AND THE ONE ACRE LOTS IS THE MINIMUM SIZE. THESE ARE ALL MEET THAT THAT MINIMUM ACREAGE REQUIREMENT.

THE ACCESS IS OFF OF WARRIOR JASPER ROAD. THERE'S THERE'S NO INFRASTRUCTURE IN TERMS OF ROADS PLANNED HERE. IT'S JUST DRIVEWAY ACCESS FOR DRIVEWAY ACCESS. THERE WOULD BE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY ROADS AND TRANSPORTATION. THAT'S CORRECT. ALL DRIVEWAYS ARE APPROVED BY ROADS, TRANSPORTATION AS WELL AS THEY REVIEW THIS PLAT AS WELL SO THAT THEY'VE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH A ACCESS COMING OFF OF SOME POINT AT THE FRONT OF THESE LOTS. SO IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN BE BUILT HERE, ALL THINGS THAT ARE ALLOWED IN A1 IN TERMS OF RESIDENCES CAN BE A STICK BUILT OR IT COULD BE A MOBILE HOME.

IS THERE A LIMITATION ON THE NUMBER OF MOBILE HOMES PER LOT? CURRENTLY IT'S ONE RESIDENCE PER PER LOT. YOU COULD BUY A SPECIAL USE PERMIT RIGHT NOW, HAVE ANOTHER MOBILE HOME FOR DIRECT FAMILY MEMBERS, WHICH WILL BE A MAX OF TWO PER LOT. IN THIS SITUATION, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST 15,000FT■!S FOR EACH RESIDENCE FOR SEPTIC SYSTEM PURPOSES. SO YOU COULD THEORETICALLY, YOU COULD HAVE UP TO THREE ON ON ONE PARCEL IF IT WERE APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. WITH THAT SPECIAL USE. HANG ON. LET. AND THEN I'LL LET YOU HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE. OKAY. KEEP GOING. ANDREW. SO THE YEAH. IN TERMS OF I KNOW WE RECEIVED SOME QUESTIONS FROM SURROUNDING OWNERS ABOUT THE SUBDIVISION ITSELF THAT HINGED ON THE MOBILE HOMES. I JUST DO REITERATE THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT WE ARE NOT DISCUSSING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT MOBILE HOMES ARE ALLOWED HERE, BUT THEY ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT ALREADY ON THIS PIECE OF LAND AND AS WELL AS THIS WHOLE GREEN AREA EVERYWHERE, ALL THESE

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WE CAN DO THAT. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE THE OWNER IS DIVIDING IT INTO THREE SEPARATE PROPERTIES SO THAT HE CAN SELL THE INDIVIDUAL LOTS HERE, HE OR SHE. BUT THE APPLICANT IS A KEITH QUINN. SO AND AS FAR AS ROAD ACCESS ROADS AND TRANSPORTATION HAS LOOKED AT IT AND IT WOULD BE ACCESS OFF OF THE MAIN ROAD RIGHT THERE FOR ACCESS FOR DRIVEWAYS FOR EACH OF THE LOTS. AND THEY WOULD BE HAPPY TO THOSE WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY ROADS AND TRANSPORTATION AS PART OF THEIR PLANS FOR THE PROPERTY. AND AS FAR AS WHAT'S ALLOWED IN A1, ANDREW WENT THROUGH THAT. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE A HOME, IT CAN BE AGRICULTURAL USE.

CURRENTLY, THERE'S A MOBILE HOME ON ONE PROPERTY. THE REGULATIONS ALLOW FOR ONE MOBILE HOME WITHOUT SPECIAL PERMISSION. THEY COULD COME BACK AND ASK FOR MOBILE HOME, TWO ADDITIONAL MOBILE HOMES BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY, FOR A TOTAL OF THREE.

IT WOULD HAVE TO BE FAMILY, MEANING IT HAS TO BE RELATED TO THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IN ORDER TO PUT TO GET A SPECIAL PERMIT TO PUT A SECOND OR THIRD MOBILE HOME THERE. SO THOSE ARE THE LIMITATIONS. THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO US FOR PERMISSION TO DO THAT. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE BASIC SUMMARY. SO IF YOU HAVE IF YOU WANT TO DO A FOLLOW UP THE BEST WE CAN WITHOUT THE APPLICANT HERE, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME UP AND ASK SOME SOME MORE QUESTIONS.

COME ON UP AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. MY NAME IS LEE SMITH. I'M BAILEY'S FATHER. MY ADDRESS IS 308 HUNTER ROAD, NOT THE SAME ADDRESS AS HERS. I WAS JUST WONDERING. IT SAYS IN THERE THEY'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT FROM AGRICULTURE TO TO A NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE'RE JUST WONDERING IF IT'S GOING TO TURN IT INTO A TRAILER PARK. WE UNDERSTAND THE ZONING IS, YOU KNOW, IT ALLOWS FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT BECAUSE I THINK HE'S ALSO BOUGHT AN ADDITIONAL THREE ACRES. AND WITH THE ONE HE'S ALREADY GOT, AND WE'RE JUST WONDER IF IT'S GOING TO GO TO A NEIGHBORHOOD. IS THAT WHAT IT'S GOING TO TURN INTO? IS IT GOING TO BE A JUST GOING TO BE A NEIGHBORHOOD TRAILER PARK, OR IS THIS GOING TO STILL BE AGRICULTURE? OKAY. GREAT QUESTION. IF YOU WANT TO STAY UP IN CASE, MICHAEL. YES, IF YOU COULD REPEAT YOUR ADDRESS FOR FOR 308 HUNTER ROAD, THREE, HUNTER ROAD, GARDENDALE, 35071. OKAY. SO WHAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS THEY'RE JUST DIVIDING THE THREE LOTS OR THE ONE LOT INTO THREE. THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING A TRAILER PARK.

THAT'S A DIFFERENT ZONING CLASSIFICATION THAN AGRICULTURAL. THEY HAVEN'T APPLIED FOR THAT. SO I WOULD SUSPECT IF THEY WERE GOING TO DO A TRAILER PARK, THEY WOULD NOT BE SUBDIVIDING THIS. THEY WOULD BE KEEPING IT WHOLE AND PLOTTING OUT A SUBDIVISION PARK.

I'M SORRY, A TRAILER PARK INSTEAD, LIKE A BUSINESS. SO I DON'T SEE THAT HERE. THEY WOULD BE. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME AND I'M SPECULATING NOW, BUT THAT THEY WOULDN'T DIVIDE THE PROPERTY UP IF THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD A TRAILER PARK. AND JUST TO ADD TO THAT, TRAILER PARK IS A DIFFERENT ZONING DESIGNATION. IT'S R5, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ZONED. THIS IS NOT A THIS IS NOT A PROPOSAL FOR THE USE. THIS IS SIMPLY TO CREATE NEW BOUNDARY LINES. IF THIS WAS 100 ACRES HERE AND SOMEONE WANTED TO SPLIT OFF TEN ACRES AND HAVE TEN ACRES AND 90 ACRES, IT WOULD BE. THIS IS THE SAME LEGAL PROCESS. SO IT'S NOT A CHANGE OF. YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T PUT A MOBILE HOME PARK ON THIS PIECE OF LAND BECAUSE IT'S NOT ZONED PROPERLY. FOR THAT. IT WOULD REQUIRE ACTION BY BOTH PLANNING AND ZONING. AND THEN THE COUNTY COMMISSION FOLLOW UP.

SO IN MY EXPERIENCE, USUALLY IF SOMEBODY'S GOING TO PUT MORE THAN ONE MOBILE HOME ON ONE OF THESE PIECES OF PROPERTY, THEY WOULD BE HERE TODAY DOING IT. SO THIS IS JUST DIVIDING IT UP SO THEY CAN SELL IT. THEN WHOEVER BUYS IT WOULD IT WOULD BE ANOTHER VISIT HERE IF THEY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. SO I HOPE THAT HELPS ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. I'M SAYING I'M JUST SAYING HOW IT WOULD BE GOOD TO SEE THREE BUT NOT NOT NECESSARILY. THE CLEVER MARKETING WOULD BE OKAY. WELL, THAT'S ALL I WOULD SAY. YES, MICHAEL, JUST JUST TO CORRECT THAT, YOU CAN HAVE UP TO THREE ON A TRACK AND THAT TRACK HAS TO HAVE TRACK THE LIFE THAT

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IF NOT WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE DISCUSSIONS. OKAY. COME ON UP, PLEASE. I'M SORRY. I JUST TOOK A PICTURE OF WHAT I WAS RECEIVED IN THE MAIL. IT SAYS 3.75 ACRES. AND YOU MENTIONED HE JUST BOUGHT IT FOR ONE ACRE. SO WHAT IS THE CORRECT ACREAGE? ANDREW. YEAH, THAT'S A TOTAL PROPERTY SIZE 3.75 ACRES. THE PROPOSED DIVISION IS APPROXIMATELY 1.65 ACRES, ONE POINT ONE ACRE SITE. SO THAT TOTALS UP TO 3.75. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE THAT THE KEITH GUY HAD BOUGHT, OR IS HE JUST BOUGHT THE ONE ACRE WITH THE MOBILE HOME ALREADY ON IT SO THAT ONE MORE TIME SOUND POINT CAPITAL IS THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY. THE APPLICANT IS.

THEY. THEY OWN THE ENTIRE PARK. THIS ONE THE BANK OWNS SOUTH POINT CAPITAL LLC. OKAY, THAT WAS ALL OKAY, OKAY. GOING TO. CLOSE THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION NOW AND ASK FOR A MOTION, PLEASE.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SUBDIVISION CASE S 260057. SECOND. SECOND. SORRY.

ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE DISCUSSION. TO OUR NEXT

[S-26-0058 Christopher Newsome, Windy Newsome, John Shirley & Christine Shirley, owners; request Newsome Subdivision, Two (2) lots proposed. Property zoned A-1 (Agriculture). PID#s 3700050000010000, 3700050000010006 in section 05 / Township 19 / Range 5 W. (Site address 3630 Kyle Wood Lane, Adger 35006)(27.4 acres +/-)]

[S-26-0060 Sherry Teresa Hannah, owner; Stephen Lee, agent; request Gurley Creek Subdivision, Two (2) lots proposed. Property zoned A-1 (Agriculture). PID# 0200252000003000 in section 25 / Township 14 / Range 2 W. (Site address 3552 Bethel Road, Warrior, 35180)(30.2 acres +/-)]

[S-26-0061 Tana Carter, owner; Tana Carter Single Family Subdivision, Three (3) lot proposed. Property zoned A-1 (Agriculture). PID# 0400220000016002 in section 22 / Township 14 / Range 4 W. (Site address 2775 Sleigh Road, Empire, 35063)(32.72 acres +/-)esolution Title/County Commission Meeting]

THIS IS TANNER CARTER'S SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION. THREE LOTS PROPOSED AT 2775 SLADE ROAD AND EMPIRE. IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS SUBDIVISION CASE? IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? HEARING NONE. MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SUBDIVISION CASE S 260061. SECOND. HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT. MOTION PASSES. WE HAVE

[S-26-0062 Danita Moore, owner; request Danita Moore Survey, One (1) lot proposed. Property zoned R-3 (Two-Family); R-6 (Single Family) requested in concurrent rezoning case Z-26-0021. PID# 3800062002027000 in section 06 / Township 19 / Range 4 W. (Site address 3059 Webster Drive, Hueytown, 35023)(0.32 acres +/-)]

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ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS SUBDIVISION CASE? IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? OKAY. WE HAVE NO APPLICANT PRESENT. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? HEARING NONE.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SUBDIVISION CASE S 260062. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED?

[Z-26-0022 Kingdom Builders Church, owner; Beverly Armstrong, Capital Funding Group, LLC, agent; request Rezoning to INSTITUTIONAL 2 for an adult daycare center for the elderly. Property zoned R-1 (Single-Family). PID# 1200204005002000 in section 20/ Township 16/ Range 1 W. (Site address 1123 Brewster Road, Center Point, 35235)(2.57 Acres+/-)]

THE HOURS OF OPERATION WILL BE FROM 7 A.M. TO 6 P.M. SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. IT WILL BE FOR AGES 50 AND OLDER. RESPITE SERVICE WILL ALSO BE AVAILABLE WHEN REQUESTED. PICK UP AND DROP OFF SERVICE WILL BE AVAILABLE. THE INGRESS AND EGRESS TO THE PROPERTY WILL BE FROM HIDDEN VALLEY ROAD. THE PROPOSED REZONING TO. TO THE INSTITUTIONAL TWO ZONING DISTRICT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR. THANK YOU. CONNIE, IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION TO THIS REZONING CASE TODAY? IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? WELCOME. WAS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD FROM WHAT MISS CONNIE PRESENTED TO US? SHE DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB. BUT IF YOU WANT TO ADD MORE, YOU CAN. OKAY, I THINK I TELL YOU WHAT, WOULD YOU GO AND COME UP TO THE PODIUM? I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU AND START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. HI, MY NAME IS BONNIE WARD. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF ROSE GARDEN ADULT DAY SERVICES. WHAT WAS YOUR LAST NAME AGAIN? WARD. WARD. THANK YOU, MISS WARD 732 SPRUCE WOOD LANE, BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA 35214. SO I KNOW THIS AREA PRETTY, PRETTY WELL. SO I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE TOO. SO COULD YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING TO DO? I MEAN, THE PROPERTY IS REALLY WELL KEPT AND WHICH IS GREAT. SO LIKE, ARE YOU PLANNING ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THE PROPERTY, BUILDING ADDITIONAL FACILITIES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO, SIR. ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING. YOU'RE JUST GOING TO GO IN AND USE THE EXISTING BUILDING AND MAYBE DO WHATEVER CONVERSIONS YOU NEED TO INSIDE. YES, SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. SEE, THAT WASN'T TOO BAD. OKAY. AND I THINK THAT'S IT. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE. I DID NOT HEAR ANY OPPOSITION AND NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS. MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE Z26-0022. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE.

ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. SO THIS WILL BE HEARD BY THE JEFFERSON COUNTY COMMISSION AT THEIR NEXT MEETING FOR REVIEW FOR FINAL APPROVAL. SO YOU GOT TWO MEETINGS FOR THIS ONE? I'M AFRAID SO. THANK YOU AND GOOD LUCK. SO OUR NEXT ZONING CASE IS Z 260023. THE APPLICANT IS I

[Z-26-0023 Eastern Valley Auto Parts, LLC, owner; Marayon Watson, agent; request to rezone to I-1 (Light Industrial) to convert the existing building at 921 Eastern Valley Road into a climate control storage building and to bring 925 & 935 Eastern Valley Road into compliance with it’s existing use of telecommunications company with outside storage. Property zoned C-1 (Commercial) & R-2 (Single-Family). PID#s 3800213021002000, 3800213021003.000 & 3800213021004000 in section 21/ Township 19/ Range 4 W. (Site address 921, 925 & 935 Eastern Valley Road, Bessemer, 35020)(2.12 Acres+/-)]

AND THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE TO I-1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO CONVERT AN EXISTING BUILDING AT 921 EASTERN VALLEY ROAD INTO A CLIMATE CONTROLLED STORAGE BUILDING AND TO BRING 925 AND

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921925 AND 935 EASTERN VALLEY ROAD AND BESSEMER. PLEASE GO AHEAD. YES, SIR. IS WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS THREE ADJACENT PARCELS. AS YOU MENTIONED. WE HAVE. 921 THIS ZONED COMMERCIAL, WE HAVE 925 THAT HAS SPLIT ZONING OF COMMERCIAL AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. AND THEN WE HAVE 935 AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE 921 FOR A CLIMATE CONTROLLED SELF STORAGE FACILITY AT THAT LOCATION AND THE OTHER PARTS OR THE OTHER TWO PARCELS. THE APPLICANT IS REALLY JUST TRYING TO BRING THEM INTO COMPLIANCE BECAUSE THEY HAVE OUTSIDE STORAGE, AND OUTSIDE STORAGE IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE C ONE RR ONE ZONING DISTRICT. THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE REZONING FOR THE OTHER TWO PARCELS. THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS THE PROPOSED REZONING TO I. ONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IS NOT CONSISTENT OR COMPATIBLE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, SO STAFF IS UNABLE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. WE HAVE TO RECOMMEND DENIAL FOR THAT. WE WOULD SUGGEST OR MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF POSSIBLE REZONING IT TO C ONE COMMERCIAL IN LIEU OF THE I ONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU, SIR. THANK YOU CONNIE.

SO I KNOW WE ONLY HAVE ONE PERSON IN THE AUDIENCE, BUT NEVERTHELESS, I'M GOING TO CALL FOR ANY OPPOSITION TO THIS REZONING CASE. ALL RIGHT. MISS WATSON, WOULD YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM? I WANTED TO TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CONNIE SAID AND GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT. YES, SIR. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH DISCUSSION YOU HAD WITH STAFF, BUT WE HAVE OUR OUR LAND USE PLAN THAT SAYS WHAT WE CAN REZONE STUFF TO AND WHAT WE CAN'T, AND REZONING THIS PARCEL TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WE CANNOT DO EVER, NOT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN. AND THERE'S NOT ANY INDUSTRIAL IN THE AREA. SO THAT THE CHANCES OF THAT HAPPENING ARE THERE. THERE IS WITHIN LESS THAN TWO MILES IN BOTH DIRECTIONS OF MY PROPERTY. AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY MY FATHER AND MY GRANDFATHER BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY IN 1966. THEY OPENED AN AUTO PARTS STORE AND AN AUTO REPAIR SHOP. OKAY, WE HAVE BEEN PART OF THIS COMMUNITY THAT ENTIRE TIME. AS A MATTER OF FACT, NUMEROUS OF THE HOMES AROUND US WERE BUILT AFTER WE WERE ESTABLISHED ALREADY THERE IN THE COMMUNITY. THE CHURCH NEXT DOOR TO US HAS, WHEN I MENTIONED TO THEM WHAT I WAS HOPING TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY, WAS EXTREMELY HAPPY ABOUT IT BECAUSE IF YOU LEAVE IT AS COMMERCIAL ONE AND I SELL THE BUILDING AND ALL THAT PROPERTY RIGHT THERE AS COMMERCIAL ONE. THERE'S NO TELLING WHAT WOULD GO IN THERE NEXT TO THE CHURCH AND, AND, AND NEXT TO THE. THE ACCOUNTING OFFICE THAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MY PROPERTY. WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS NOT CHANGE THE FACE OF THE PROPERTY. I'M NOT TEARING THE BUILDING DOWN AND CREATING SOME STRANGE MONSTROSITY IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD. ANY EXTERIOR THAT WOULD BE DONE WOULD ONLY BE LIKE MAYBE PAINTING, RESURFACING, THE DRIVE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, JUST TO MAKE IT MORE ESTHETIC TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS FAR AS IT WOULD DECREASE TRAFFIC.

BECAUSE ONCE PEOPLE PUT THINGS IN STORAGE, THEY TYPICALLY LEAVE IT THERE. IT'S A VERY NOT A VERY HIGH TURNOVER BUSINESS. IT WOULD INCREASE SECURITY IN THE AREA BECAUSE IN ORDER TO PROTECT MY CUSTOMERS PERSONAL ITEMS, I WOULD BE INCREASING SECURITY CAMERAS AROUND THE BUILDING IS PART OF MY PLAN. THE THE OTHER THING IS. I AM JUST VERY DISAPPOINTED. THAT

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AND HAS BEEN FOR MANY, MANY, MANY WAY BEFORE THIS THESE CHANGES WERE MADE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO. SO LIKE I SAID, WE COULD WITHIN THE, THE LAND USE PLAN, WE COULD REZONE IT TO C-1.

IT WOULD NOT ALLOW ANY OUTSIDE STORAGE. SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE REMEDIED EITHER THROUGH BUILDING SOMETHING, AN ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE TO STORE IT OR MOVE IT OFFSITE. OR YOU COULD. SO THAT. SO LET'S GO BACK SO YOU COULD CONTINUE WITH YOUR REQUEST TO REZONE IT.

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TYPEKIT 2.0 YEAH. AND THEN I WAS TRYING TO BE REALISTIC. WE DISCUSSED THAT IN PRE MEETING THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE PROPER GIVEN THE WAY THE LAND USE MAP AND THE LAND USE PLAN IS RIGHT NOW. SO I DIDN'T BRING THAT UP AS AN OPTION BECAUSE IT ITS CHANCES OF SUCCESS WERE SLIM.

YES SIR. PROBABLY LESS THAN. YEAH. I ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THE APPLICANT. OR REMARKS ANYTHING MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, I'D LIKE TO I'D JUST LIKE TO CONFIRM THAT THAT THE APPLICANT UNDERSTANDS THAT LAST DISCUSSION OF WHAT WHAT THE IMPACT OF THAT IS THE LAND USE AMENDMENT PROPOSAL. AND IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL TRY TO SAY IT AND NOT SURE. WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD ABOUT IT, IF I MAY, THE JEFFERSON COUNTY, ALL THE NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS HAVE COME TOGETHER TO FORM WHAT'S CALLED THE JEFFERSON COUNTY FORWARD TOGETHER COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. I DIDN'T NAME IT. THAT'S IT. AND THAT INCLUDES ALL THEIR INPUT. AND IT WAS IT WAS A LABOR TO, TO, TO PULL THAT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY WANTED FROM THAT. THAT LAND USE MAP THAT WE KEEP REFERRING TO WAS DRAWN UP. AND FROM THAT, THEY WANT THAT TO BE A COMMERCIAL CENTER OR NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER OF SOME SORT. AND THAT'S WHY THE USE FOR, FOR WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING DOESN'T FIT WHAT ALL THOSE PEOPLE SAID THEY WANTED. SO IF WE WERE TO GO AGAINST THAT, WE'D BE GOING AGAINST ALL OF THEM, ALL OF WHAT THEY ASKED FOR. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S THAT'S CLEAR BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT, A LOT OF US DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I LEARNED THROUGH THE PROCESS AS WELL. BUT THE, THE ARE YOU TALKING MY DIRECT NEIGHBORS TO THE PROPERTY OR IT WAS DONE. AND I'LL PAUSE THAT YOU PLEASE ANSWER. IT WAS DONE. COMMUNITY AT LARGE, IN PARTICULAR IN YOUR AREA. WE HAD A PUBLIC SITE OF 2 OR 3 PUBLIC BUILDINGS, NAKADORI HIGH SCHOOL, WHERE THAT WE KIND OF DID THEM ACROSS THE COUNTY AND. AND SO THAT MEANS NOT ONLINE AND IN PERSON. SO WE CAN KIND OF GET THAT. OKAY. SO. I THINK MAYBE AND I, I MEAN, I COULD BE WRONG, BUT WHEN I HEARD THE WORD INDUSTRIAL, I ALWAYS THINK INDUSTRIAL MEANS BUILDING SOMETHING, RIGHT? CREATING SOMETHING HAMMERS AND NAILS AND SAWS ALL THE TIME, RIGHT? NOT BUILDING THAT STORE STUFF THAT'S QUIET, THAT'S NON-INTRUSIVE. THAT ACTUALLY ADDS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, AND I THINK I KNOW THIS IS NOT Y'ALL'S PLACE TO DO THIS, OR I'M ASSUMING IT'S NOT. BUT STORAGE FACILITIES BEING LABELED AS OR SPACE TO RENT, BEING LABELED AS INDUSTRIAL IS MISLEADING. AND IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED ON THAT DID NOT UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THEY THOUGHT THAT I WOULD, YOU KNOW, IF I COULD DO IT INDUSTRIAL, THAT I WOULD BE TURNING IT INTO A SAWMILL OR SOMETHING. WELL, THAT WOULD DISTURB THE NEIGHBORS AND BE DETRIMENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

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SO BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT TO THE LAYPERSON, THE THE WORD INDUSTRIAL LUMPS THEM ALL TOGETHER. AND, AND I, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WAS I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF MY NEIGHBORS.

WOULD BE OBJECTED TO THIS. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT I COULD GET A. YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY SIGN A PETITION OR, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE'VE GOT A DAYCARE, WE GOT THE CHURCH. AND THEN WE GOT ME AND, AND I HAVE WORKED MY FAMILY HAS WORKED WITH ALL OF THOSE HARMONIOUSLY FOR 60 YEARS. AND I DON'T PLAN ON DOING ANYTHING DESTRUCTIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I UNDERSTAND AND I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR POSITION AND TRYING TO TELL YOU OUR POSITION. WE HAVE THE PLANS AND THE REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY WIGGLE ROOM ON NOT FOLLOWING THEM. THERE'S NO, I'M NOT I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU THAT THE COMMISSION HAS WIGGLE ROOM, BUT THEY MIGHT IF ANYBODY DOES. AND BUT SO THE COUNTY COMMISSION. SO LIKE I SAID, I TELL YOU SOMETIMES IF WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL, THEY GO A DIFFERENT WAY AND THEY'RE NOT. WE'RE MORE RIGID THAN THEY HAVE TO BE, I BELIEVE. I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T GET MYSELF IN TROUBLE WITH THEM ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T DO. OKAY. BUT YEAH, GIVEN GIVEN YOUR CASE AND WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AND YOUR REASONING FOR WHY IT SHOULD BE OKAY IS SOMETHING YOU COULD GO TO THE COMMISSION AND ARGUE, YES, SIR. BUT IF YOU WANT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, IF YOU WANT TO PROCEED WITH THAT, I EXPECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO VOTE TODAY TO RECOMMEND DENIAL BASED ON IT NOT MEETING THE LAND USE PLAN AND KNOWING THAT WE AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE THE LAND USE PLAN TO ACCOMMODATE IT.

SO IF THAT'S WHAT YOU REALLY WANT TO GO DO, I MEAN, I IT'S A GAMBLE ABOUT WHETHER I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THEY'RE GOING TO FEEL, BUT THE MORE SUPPORT YOU HAVE, THE BETTER CHANCES YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAN JUST BY YOURSELF. YES, SIR. SO EVERYTHING YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO ADD, MR. VICE CHAIR. YOU ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN THINK OF? AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE TO GO WITH OUR ZONING REGULATIONS AND POLICY PROCEDURE. YES, SIR. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW. BUT THIS IS STEP ONE. AND I HAD TO ASK MR. CHAIRMAN, WHO'S WHOSE COMMISSION DISTRICT IS THIS IN? DOES ANYONE KNOW JIMMY STEPHENS? IS IT TYSON OR STEPHENS? DO YOU KNOW WHO YOUR COUNTY COMMISSIONER IS FOR YOUR STEPHENS IS TYSON. TYSON NOW.

OKAY, SO I WOULD START THERE. OKAY. MAKE AN APPOINTMENT WITH OUR OFFICE AND SEE WHAT THEY THINK. I WOULD WALK DOWN RIGHT AFTER THIS AND MAKE AN APPOINTMENT. OKAY. THEY'RE JUST AT THE END OF THE HALL. OKAY. OKAY. SO IF SO, I HEARD YOU SAY YOU DON'T WANT TO GO TO SEE ONE AND YOU WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THE I ONE INDUSTRIAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL REQUESTS. YES, SIR.

I JUST DON'T SEE HOW THAT NEIGHBORHOOD CAN SUPPORT ANY COMMERCIAL VENTURE THAT I MIGHT PUT IN THERE. I JUST DON'T KNOW OF IT. OKAY, I UNDERSTAND, I, I HOPE WE'VE LISTENED TO YOU WELL AND TRIED TO HELP YOU BEST WE CAN WITH, WITH WHAT WE HAVE. SO. SO DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR US? HOW ABOUT THE COMMISSIONERS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY, MA'AM, IF YOU IF YOU WOULD HAVE A SEAT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON WHERE TO PROCEED. OKAY. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

SINCE I'VE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, MAY I HAVE A MOTION FOR CASE Z 260023? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION OF DENIAL FOR Z26-0023. IN LIEU OF THE I ONE LIGHT INDUSTRY DISTRICT STAFF

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